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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 10:17 AM
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Lowering w212 sedan w/o airmatic

Hello! I was wondering how to "slam" my e class to the ground, not looking for people to tell me not to do it just how.

currently its sitting on kw v3 coilovers which ride great but i dont feel like they get me low enough..


The angle make it look alot lower than it actually is..

ive got 4matic if that matters.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 05:04 PM
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 09:31 PM
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Bag it.
this. if coilovers dont get it thattttt low then only option is bags.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 11:21 PM
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Cutting a ring on coil did work well for lot of W210 owners.
W212 has more sensors with potential for dashboard discotheque
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Old Oct 14, 2021 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Blkvip
this. if coilovers dont get it thattttt low then only option is bags.
What type of bags is the go to for w212?
airliftperformance? 3p? 3h?

dont feel like cutting the coils on my coilovers as someone stated here, these kw coilovers are quite pricey😅
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Old Oct 16, 2021 | 06:13 PM
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the coilovers I've seen (mostly on track cars and such) all had an adjustment for preload on the spring, and usually give you at least anther inch if you run that all the way down, BUT running that low that seriously messes with the suspension geometry, and leaves you almost no remaining compression travel, so going over even a mild bump can hit the hard stops and bend or break stuff.

when you 'bag' it, you will be removing your coilovers anyways, as the bags can't force the existing springs and shocks to make the car lower, they REPLACE the springs and shocks. adding bags to an existing system can only RAISE the car, typically you do this to a hyper-lowered car so you can lift it to go into driveways and over bumps/dips without scraping body parts.
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Old Oct 16, 2021 | 06:44 PM
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the coilovers I've seen (mostly on track cars and such) all had an adjustment for preload on the spring, and usually give you at least anther inch if you run that all the way down, BUT running that low that seriously messes with the suspension geometry, and leaves you almost no remaining compression travel, so going over even a mild bump can hit the hard stops and bend or break stuff.

when you 'bag' it, you will be removing your coilovers anyways, as the bags can't force the existing springs and shocks to make the car lower, they REPLACE the springs and shocks. adding bags to an existing system can only RAISE the car, typically you do this to a hyper-lowered car so you can lift it to go into driveways and over bumps/dips without scraping body parts.
okay! I will have to try out some adjustments to my coilovers once spring is back! Currently snowing in norway:’) dont want it too low when snows here.
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Old Oct 16, 2021 | 07:03 PM
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the preload adjustment would be a threaded ring around hte body of the shock that the coil spring sits on, usually its the bottom end that is adjustable...

yeah, its that purple ring on the body threads as seen in the top picture here,
https://www.kwsuspensions.com/produc...overs/variant3
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
the preload adjustment would be a threaded ring around hte body of the shock that the coil spring sits on, usually its the bottom end that is adjustable...

yeah, its that purple ring on the body threads as seen in the top picture here,
https://www.kwsuspensions.com/produc...overs/variant3

yeah im aware! but when adding more preload ride height would definately be higher? or am i not thinking straight? currently its barely preloaded. i have adjustment for compression and rebound also if that could help in any way to achieve the fitment i want.
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Old Oct 17, 2021 | 03:21 PM
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you want to lower the preload as much as you can, that lowers the car.

the damping adjustments (compression, rebound) set how it rides. with not enough damping, the car will 'pogo' and bounce when it hits a bump. with too much damping, the bump will be much harsher in the chassis, and on a rippling road, too much rebound can cause the suspension to 'pack down' as it won't unload fast enough.
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You're only going to get a max 2 1/4 inch drop out of the KW's anyway. If you want to lay frame on the ground, you need to bag it.
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 03:25 AM
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I wouldn't do it in an Airmatic car at all
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BenzV12
I wouldn't do it in an Airmatic car at all
You're not alone. Not many fabricators on this forum, it appears. A car is a car is a car. You can do whatever you want to them, skills permitting.
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few fabricators can deal with the computer systems on board a modern car like these Mercedes... if you gut Airmatic, the car will have to be re-coded to disable airmatic or it will throw faults that will very likely interact with the engine and transmission and traction control management.
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It would be stupid easy to trick the car to think there's pressure in the lines. C'mon, man!?
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 03:39 AM
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I wouldn't do it in an Airmatic car at all
where do you read i have an airmatic car?? I have coilovers on my car its not on bags
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maybe KW can make a shorter version. or a master welder/machinist could chop them and weld back together. won't be cheap.

I don't think you can get super-low without custom suspension arms to change the geometry, and you would need shocks with a shorter minimum length, and probably higher spring rate, and then you're so low, you need the airbags to drive around everyday bumps without scraping hard parts and skirts.

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Originally Posted by Kberg
where do you read i have an airmatic car?? I have coilovers on my car its not on bags
Sorry , I misread it . Well, with Airmatic or not I wouldn't do it anyway .I was recommend to remove suspension tabs or pads as I recall instead of lowering by a mechanic .I was also contemplating to lower my W212 when I had it
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
maybe KW can make a shorter version. or a master welder/machinist could chop them and weld back together. won't be cheap.

I don't think you can get super-low without custom suspension arms to change the geometry, and you would need shocks with a shorter minimum length, and probably higher spring rate, and then you're so low, you need the airbags to drive around everyday bumps without scraping hard parts and skirts.
once spring is back im gonna mess with preload in the front and try whatever in the rear to go as low as possible on the kws!
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