Lowering w212 sedan w/o airmatic
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Lowering w212 sedan w/o airmatic
Hello! I was wondering how to "slam" my e class to the ground, not looking for people to tell me not to do it just how.
currently its sitting on kw v3 coilovers which ride great but i dont feel like they get me low enough..
The angle make it look alot lower than it actually is..
ive got 4matic if that matters.
currently its sitting on kw v3 coilovers which ride great but i dont feel like they get me low enough..
The angle make it look alot lower than it actually is..
ive got 4matic if that matters.
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Bag it.
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1922 Ford Model T / no OBD
Cutting a ring on coil did work well for lot of W210 owners.
W212 has more sensors with potential for dashboard discotheque
W212 has more sensors with potential for dashboard discotheque
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the coilovers I've seen (mostly on track cars and such) all had an adjustment for preload on the spring, and usually give you at least anther inch if you run that all the way down, BUT running that low that seriously messes with the suspension geometry, and leaves you almost no remaining compression travel, so going over even a mild bump can hit the hard stops and bend or break stuff.
when you 'bag' it, you will be removing your coilovers anyways, as the bags can't force the existing springs and shocks to make the car lower, they REPLACE the springs and shocks. adding bags to an existing system can only RAISE the car, typically you do this to a hyper-lowered car so you can lift it to go into driveways and over bumps/dips without scraping body parts.
when you 'bag' it, you will be removing your coilovers anyways, as the bags can't force the existing springs and shocks to make the car lower, they REPLACE the springs and shocks. adding bags to an existing system can only RAISE the car, typically you do this to a hyper-lowered car so you can lift it to go into driveways and over bumps/dips without scraping body parts.
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the coilovers I've seen (mostly on track cars and such) all had an adjustment for preload on the spring, and usually give you at least anther inch if you run that all the way down, BUT running that low that seriously messes with the suspension geometry, and leaves you almost no remaining compression travel, so going over even a mild bump can hit the hard stops and bend or break stuff.
when you 'bag' it, you will be removing your coilovers anyways, as the bags can't force the existing springs and shocks to make the car lower, they REPLACE the springs and shocks. adding bags to an existing system can only RAISE the car, typically you do this to a hyper-lowered car so you can lift it to go into driveways and over bumps/dips without scraping body parts.
when you 'bag' it, you will be removing your coilovers anyways, as the bags can't force the existing springs and shocks to make the car lower, they REPLACE the springs and shocks. adding bags to an existing system can only RAISE the car, typically you do this to a hyper-lowered car so you can lift it to go into driveways and over bumps/dips without scraping body parts.
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the preload adjustment would be a threaded ring around hte body of the shock that the coil spring sits on, usually its the bottom end that is adjustable...
yeah, its that purple ring on the body threads as seen in the top picture here,
https://www.kwsuspensions.com/produc...overs/variant3
yeah, its that purple ring on the body threads as seen in the top picture here,
https://www.kwsuspensions.com/produc...overs/variant3
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the preload adjustment would be a threaded ring around hte body of the shock that the coil spring sits on, usually its the bottom end that is adjustable...
yeah, its that purple ring on the body threads as seen in the top picture here,
https://www.kwsuspensions.com/produc...overs/variant3
yeah, its that purple ring on the body threads as seen in the top picture here,
https://www.kwsuspensions.com/produc...overs/variant3
yeah im aware! but when adding more preload ride height would definately be higher? or am i not thinking straight? currently its barely preloaded. i have adjustment for compression and rebound also if that could help in any way to achieve the fitment i want.
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you want to lower the preload as much as you can, that lowers the car.
the damping adjustments (compression, rebound) set how it rides. with not enough damping, the car will 'pogo' and bounce when it hits a bump. with too much damping, the bump will be much harsher in the chassis, and on a rippling road, too much rebound can cause the suspension to 'pack down' as it won't unload fast enough.
the damping adjustments (compression, rebound) set how it rides. with not enough damping, the car will 'pogo' and bounce when it hits a bump. with too much damping, the bump will be much harsher in the chassis, and on a rippling road, too much rebound can cause the suspension to 'pack down' as it won't unload fast enough.
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You're only going to get a max 2 1/4 inch drop out of the KW's anyway. If you want to lay frame on the ground, you need to bag it.
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I wouldn't do it in an Airmatic car at all
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few fabricators can deal with the computer systems on board a modern car like these Mercedes... if you gut Airmatic, the car will have to be re-coded to disable airmatic or it will throw faults that will very likely interact with the engine and transmission and traction control management.
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It would be stupid easy to trick the car to think there's pressure in the lines. C'mon, man!?
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maybe KW can make a shorter version. or a master welder/machinist could chop them and weld back together. won't be cheap.
I don't think you can get super-low without custom suspension arms to change the geometry, and you would need shocks with a shorter minimum length, and probably higher spring rate, and then you're so low, you need the airbags to drive around everyday bumps without scraping hard parts and skirts.
I don't think you can get super-low without custom suspension arms to change the geometry, and you would need shocks with a shorter minimum length, and probably higher spring rate, and then you're so low, you need the airbags to drive around everyday bumps without scraping hard parts and skirts.
Last edited by Left Coast Geek; 10-20-2021 at 03:50 AM.
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Sorry , I misread it . Well, with Airmatic or not I wouldn't do it anyway .I was recommend to remove suspension tabs or pads as I recall instead of lowering by a mechanic .I was also contemplating to lower my W212 when I had it
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maybe KW can make a shorter version. or a master welder/machinist could chop them and weld back together. won't be cheap.
I don't think you can get super-low without custom suspension arms to change the geometry, and you would need shocks with a shorter minimum length, and probably higher spring rate, and then you're so low, you need the airbags to drive around everyday bumps without scraping hard parts and skirts.
I don't think you can get super-low without custom suspension arms to change the geometry, and you would need shocks with a shorter minimum length, and probably higher spring rate, and then you're so low, you need the airbags to drive around everyday bumps without scraping hard parts and skirts.