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Old Dec 11, 2021 | 12:06 PM
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Mercedes E550 B28/7 pressure sensor downstream of throttle valve

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Please help me to locate the sensor to fix the trouble code P010617

B28/7 "pressure sensor Downstream of the throttle valve

Part number if possible, and where this sensor is located.

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Wow, it's literally on page 1 of threads. Does anyone do any research themselves anymore? Seems like all most know how to do anymore is ask someone else how to do something.

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...e550-m278.html
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Old Dec 11, 2021 | 11:59 PM
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 04:35 PM
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Old Dec 13, 2021 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Senecat
Wow, it's literally on page 1 of threads. Does anyone do any research themselves anymore? Seems like all most know how to do anymore is ask someone else how to do something.

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...e550-m278.html

I did research, I found a similar topic but for AMG version. I was looking by trouble codes, not by MAP sensor issues and that was my mistake

Thank you!
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The M157/M278 are the same platform, and share most common parts. So parts location will be the same, year per year (engine wise).
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For the reference
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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 07:38 PM
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Hello again

I replaced the sensor but still have trouble codes, please see the attached

Please help me out, thank you


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Check the ECU pins for oil contamination. If oil is found, your harness may be compromised.
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Old Dec 16, 2021 | 10:15 AM
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Just checked, no oil was found.

Any other ideas?
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Is the B28/7 you got as replacement a genuine one ?
1,111hpa of air pressure ( engine off ) means that is supposedly ambient pressure.
Normal condition , at sea level is 1,013 hPa or millibar or 101,325 Pa, same-same.

Your sensor is reading your engine being underground at -783 meters. Type in 111,100 Pa
https://www.mide.com/air-pressure-at...ude-calculator



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The car was idling during test, and yes I bought the OEM senor

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The B28/7 should read vacuum at idle or 370 to 450 hPa there about.

Was the old assumed defective B28/7 sensor also reading the same wacky value at idle ?


Turn engine OFF, keep ignition ON so ECM is running.
Try to use vacuum pump to exercise the membrane of B28/7. Who knows it is stuck.

Unplug B28/7 from its position and let it read ambient atmospheric pressure. Read the pressure value, it should read ambient pressure like all other MAP/Pressure sensors B28/4 , B28/5 and B28/6 are reporting. +- 3 or 4 hPa is okey.
Use vacuum pump to create vacuum to B28/7 and see does it come close to the vacuum gauge reading ( yes, you must convert )

If still B28/7 alone is reading funny/error, simplest way is to use the other MAP/pressure sensors to take place of B28/7 to confirm IF wiring to B28/7 is the problem or the sensor itself.
The closest specification would be the B28/6, but if reading ambient atmospheric pressure only, all other 3 sensors would surely match.
No need engine running, just read ambient pressure with engine OFF and ignition ON.

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Problem solved

Thank you for your help, the issue was caused by my racechip. After software update readings came back to normal.


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Good to hear you found the problem.

However : Wow.... that is a scarry boost manipulation value.
Assuming 1,111 hPa at idle represents the boost manipulation gross value (at sea level), that is approx 600 hPa or 0.6 BAR or 9 psi of extra ACTUAL turbo boost under reporting.
M278 DELA46 standard boost is 0.9 Bar ( 13psi ).... holy cow, 66% manipulated extra turbo boost.

I am wondering, piggy back black box like RaceChip manipulation method, where and when the manipulated data is injected ?
At idle surely it won't manipulate anything significantly...yet, otherwise DTC code willl be generated by the engine ECM for whacky values....as you are experiencing.

RaceChip can't manipulate orginal fuel/boost/ignition/etc mapping of your ECM, it can only under-report value of the sensors to the ECM.
Something has to give.... I think the CAT system will suffer in the long term if the cheat is too crude.
I guess the plastic intake manifold and aftercooler can handle extra 9psi of pressure ?
Turbo wise, I don't know if extra 9psi will shorten its life by X% ?

M271.860 of 184HP uses 1.2 BAR boost or 17.4 psi.



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Bumping this old thread. What exactly did you update to fix this? The racechips or the Benz?
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Problem solved

Thank you for your help, the issue was caused by my racechip. After software update readings came back to normal.

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