Oil drip pan cover
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Oil drip pan cover
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Can anybody explain how to change the oil drip pan cover (1 in picture below, but unlike the picture), part number A 272 010 05 31, on the back of the M272 engine in my 2009 E350 sedan? It is simply too tight between firewall and engine. Remove Oil dipstick? Lift/push engine forward? Special tool to reach the two lower torx 30 screws? Even if i can reach the bolts with a long torx key, it is no room whatsoever to unscrew.
Where is the part marked 2 in picture above located? Separator, number A 272 016 01 34 and how to replace it?
Can anybody explain how to change the oil drip pan cover (1 in picture below, but unlike the picture), part number A 272 010 05 31, on the back of the M272 engine in my 2009 E350 sedan? It is simply too tight between firewall and engine. Remove Oil dipstick? Lift/push engine forward? Special tool to reach the two lower torx 30 screws? Even if i can reach the bolts with a long torx key, it is no room whatsoever to unscrew.
Where is the part marked 2 in picture above located? Separator, number A 272 016 01 34 and how to replace it?
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Sorry, there's no easy way. You know what you need to do, you just don't want to do it. Understandable, but PCV is critical.
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My car is model W212, and is manufactured early 2009, European. The lid/cover looks like attached picture and there is no way to reach the screws for the lid nor the low temp cooling line bracket in the instructions.
Maybe remove heat shield to gain a little more space..
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MY'14 W212 M276 3.5NA @60kMi
surgical work...
working this PCV in/out is a bit like pulling teeth... it hurts during but feels better after.
Many ways available...:
Many ways available...:
- pony up $1.5k
- lay over engine top to reach back
- pull out the engine
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I just replaced this on my 2011 E350 wagon. There was just barely enough room to get a e-torx socket on a needle nose vise grip pliers and use it to break loose the 4 bolts holding the cover. Using a ratchet wasn't possible due to the proximity of the firewall and cramped work area. I studied numerous how to videos on YouTube for the W212 chassis before changing mine out. VERY IMPORTANT: the oil separator is mounted with a REVERSE THREAD bolt. The cover assembly is normal thread.
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Agreed, pain in the a$$ to change due to its proximity to the rear firewall. Some bloody knuckles and a dropped socket somewhere in the engine bay, but I got it done.
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heh. my 2002 Ford F250 Superduty 7.3 diesel long bed tow beast...... according to the factory service manual, a whole *lot* of procedures start with 'remove cab and bed'. If you have the facilities to lift the cab, it makes working on that enormous engine much easier.
BUt, you can figure out how to do most of them without removing the body, it will likely require being a contortionist on scaffoldings and stuff. Or maybe a 'pit' you drive the truck into that has a walkway all around the front thats about bumper height. from THAT platform, you can reach a lot.
I've been fighting squirrels who keep storing lots of big oak acorns(*) in the valley of the V8 in front of the turbo pedestal. I don't think its woodrats I had before, because they aren't making nests. To get my shopvac crevice tool down into the V, I have to climb 3 steps on a stepladder, kneel on the top of the radiator support, and bend way over the center of thee engine, one hand on the alternator for support. THEN I can get the crevice tool into the depths of the V and suck up acorns. This truck had a big rats nest in it the same space a couple years ago, I cleaned most of that out, paid a steam cleaner to blast it out before the shop would even look, and it still cost me like $1000 to get the wiring damage fixed, and I'm now finding some halfass fixes 2 years later, but oh well, its still running. chased some ghost Glow Plug Control Module Communications Errors. found a loose plug, pushed it firmly back in, code cleared and stayed gone.
* I kinda live surrounded by big oak forest which itself is partially surrounded by even taller douglas firs and coast redwoods
BUt, you can figure out how to do most of them without removing the body, it will likely require being a contortionist on scaffoldings and stuff. Or maybe a 'pit' you drive the truck into that has a walkway all around the front thats about bumper height. from THAT platform, you can reach a lot.
I've been fighting squirrels who keep storing lots of big oak acorns(*) in the valley of the V8 in front of the turbo pedestal. I don't think its woodrats I had before, because they aren't making nests. To get my shopvac crevice tool down into the V, I have to climb 3 steps on a stepladder, kneel on the top of the radiator support, and bend way over the center of thee engine, one hand on the alternator for support. THEN I can get the crevice tool into the depths of the V and suck up acorns. This truck had a big rats nest in it the same space a couple years ago, I cleaned most of that out, paid a steam cleaner to blast it out before the shop would even look, and it still cost me like $1000 to get the wiring damage fixed, and I'm now finding some halfass fixes 2 years later, but oh well, its still running. chased some ghost Glow Plug Control Module Communications Errors. found a loose plug, pushed it firmly back in, code cleared and stayed gone.
* I kinda live surrounded by big oak forest which itself is partially surrounded by even taller douglas firs and coast redwoods
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Stop crying and just get it done.
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I remember replacing that pvc plate on one of my BMWs. If the car sat for more than an hour; a giant smoke cloud would engulf a parking lot on start up. Within a few minutes, the smoke was gone till the next stop. Even had a fire truck pull up to a parking tower where I was parked as I drove down the street. All at once I felt shock, laughter and the need to drive faster.
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I remember replacing that pvc plate on one of my BMWs. If the car sat for more than an hour; a giant smoke cloud would engulf a parking lot on start up. Within a few minutes, the smoke was gone till the next stop. Even had a fire truck pulled up to a parking tower where I was parked as I drive down the street. All at once I felt shock, laughter and the need to drive faster.
huh, that is usually a sign the engine as been blown out by driving too hard for too long.
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huh, that is usually a sign the engine as been blown out by driving too hard for too long.
Thats the first thing that comes to mind. The V8 at the time used a cyclone separator ahead of the pvc valve. If the hose ever broke off the housing it would fill with oil. It holds about a pint or more.
Thats the first thing that comes to mind. The V8 at the time used a cyclone separator ahead of the pvc valve. If the hose ever broke off the housing it would fill with oil. It holds about a pint or more.
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heh. my 2002 Ford F250 Superduty 7.3 diesel long bed tow beast...... according to the factory service manual, a whole *lot* of procedures start with 'remove cab and bed'. If you have the facilities to lift the cab, it makes working on that enormous engine much easier.
BUt, you can figure out how to do most of them without removing the body, it will likely require being a contortionist on scaffoldings and stuff. Or maybe a 'pit' you drive the truck into that has a walkway all around the front thats about bumper height. from THAT platform, you can reach a lot.
I've been fighting squirrels who keep storing lots of big oak acorns(*) in the valley of the V8 in front of the turbo pedestal. I don't think its woodrats I had before, because they aren't making nests. To get my shopvac crevice tool down into the V, I have to climb 3 steps on a stepladder, kneel on the top of the radiator support, and bend way over the center of thee engine, one hand on the alternator for support. THEN I can get the crevice tool into the depths of the V and suck up acorns. This truck had a big rats nest in it the same space a couple years ago, I cleaned most of that out, paid a steam cleaner to blast it out before the shop would even look, and it still cost me like $1000 to get the wiring damage fixed, and I'm now finding some halfass fixes 2 years later, but oh well, its still running. chased some ghost Glow Plug Control Module Communications Errors. found a loose plug, pushed it firmly back in, code cleared and stayed gone.
* I kinda live surrounded by big oak forest which itself is partially surrounded by even taller douglas firs and coast redwoods
BUt, you can figure out how to do most of them without removing the body, it will likely require being a contortionist on scaffoldings and stuff. Or maybe a 'pit' you drive the truck into that has a walkway all around the front thats about bumper height. from THAT platform, you can reach a lot.
I've been fighting squirrels who keep storing lots of big oak acorns(*) in the valley of the V8 in front of the turbo pedestal. I don't think its woodrats I had before, because they aren't making nests. To get my shopvac crevice tool down into the V, I have to climb 3 steps on a stepladder, kneel on the top of the radiator support, and bend way over the center of thee engine, one hand on the alternator for support. THEN I can get the crevice tool into the depths of the V and suck up acorns. This truck had a big rats nest in it the same space a couple years ago, I cleaned most of that out, paid a steam cleaner to blast it out before the shop would even look, and it still cost me like $1000 to get the wiring damage fixed, and I'm now finding some halfass fixes 2 years later, but oh well, its still running. chased some ghost Glow Plug Control Module Communications Errors. found a loose plug, pushed it firmly back in, code cleared and stayed gone.
* I kinda live surrounded by big oak forest which itself is partially surrounded by even taller douglas firs and coast redwoods
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