What the typical price these days for an oil change with filter on an M276 motor ?

thanks!

 

where?
Indy or Dealer?

 

Oil changes vary alarmingly:

DIY: Mobil 1 0W40 at Walmart ($36 for 6 quarts) plus a $15 filter from FCP Euro = $51 plus your labor. I value my labor at roughly $50 per hour, so $100 overall, at most.

To the top end... $200-$350, depending if your MB dealer is relatively nice, or unapologetically predatory. Don't know for sure... Never visited an MB dealer or Indy for a stupid oil change.

The Hyundai dealer charges $59 complete for an oil change (semi-synthetic) on my wife's Sonata. Sometimes less on a coupon promo. Too cheap to pass up. Spend your $50/hr labor in the customer waiting area eating a complimentary banana and watching Home and Garden Channel on the wall TV...

Why Mercedes-Benz dealers think their time is more valuable is impossible to explain.

 

If you are like me, $50/hour is too cheap for the level of attention and care you probably give to the task.

I'm with you, I have never taken my Mercs or Porsches to a dealer for an oil change. They always try to sell me stuff I don't need.

 

I usually bring my own oil.

Motul 2 jugs ~100CAD
Filter and gasket at benz - $27 CAD (its a rip off)
Oil change labour - $30 Cad

$157 CAD for an oil change.

 

I think I pay around $150 at my trusted indi who also takes care of my wife’s 2020 GLS since day one. I’ve ranted enough about my dealership experiences already. Find a good indi and stick with them, is my only advice.

 

Depends on the cost of shipping the used oil and filter back to fcpeuro. Other than that, nothing.

 

It's about $150 at an independent shop, which is also the same price as getting the oil changed in my Sierra (5.3L gas) so it's not more expensive than a "regular" vehicle.

If I were to pay full price for the oil the savings are negligible between DIY and going to the shop, if I feel like doing it myself (from the top side with an extractor) I always wait for a sale.

 

I just had an oil change at my dealership and they charged me $135 for my M278 motor.

 

Just had my M278 Oil and Filter changed at my local Indy - owner was 13 years a Mercedes Dealership mechanic. Brought my own 5W 40 Euro spec full synthetic ($40/10 qts, but they only needed 9), they provided the filter and and plug washer (yes they drain and fill vs. suck the oil out) and do a full inspection for $60, so around $100 total - less than half of what the Merc dealer charged me (I went to them while I was under full warranty).

 

Depends on the local indy. I still have one that does an oil change and tire rotation for $20 if you bring the oil and filter. Mobil 1 0w40 right now is $26.99 for 6 quarts at BJs. Either get a Mann filter from Rockauto.com or get it from FCPeuro and pay shipping to get lifetime free filters.

https://www.bjs.com/product/mobil-1-...00000001158086

 

If you really want to kill the game, go to harbor freight and get a fluid extractor and a 14mm oil filter socket from there or any other auto parts store and change your oil in 30 minutes from the top, literally 30 minutes. $150 once instead of continuously going to an indy/ dealer and paying $150/$299 (Mercedes Benz of Silver Spring MD Prices). Once you get a feel for how to insert the tube, it'll suck all the oil out in seconds making a burbling noise that sounds very satisfying. Up to you but The techs don't get paid as much as you're paying to have the work done so they don't give a damn. If you can work your way to afford a Benz, you can get your head around an oil change. My biggest concern is that the people working in these shops, the vast majority do not care.

 

I spent many decades as a new car dealer employing hundreds of men and women in the service departments of multiple stores. Stating that "the vast majority do not care" is is simply ridiculous. That typifies a pure amateur who once spent fifteen minutes in a dealership waiting room and became an expert. The profession has most likely no more nor any less folks as any other field who take pride in doing their job properly and getting ahead to support their family.

In my stores, we supported the do-it-yourself person by selling them parts and offering expertise when they needed it. When you have 15-20 million invested and a $300,000 monthly overhead, a $200 oil change service does not change your lifestyle. On the other hand, the inevitable amateur screw-ups were often very profitable.

 

Interesting, I guess I lucked out, like CA5 I go to Walmart buy the oil and take it and my FCP oil filter with me, they charge 19.95 for an oil change and I pay 36 dollars for the oil in five quart jugs, I get two as I use it in my lawnmower and snowblower also, however, for the life of me I'll never understand why some insist on using zero weight oil, I use 10W30 or 10W40, no oil leaks from anything anywhere in 86k miles.
So all in, 90-100 dollars and I get to look at the underside of the car and see my mechanic friends.

 

My understanding is that the thinner oil (0W40) gets into every nook and cranny within the engine. It's the oil my car came with from the factory. I've gone to 15W30 in the 21 year-old C320 to fight some leaks at the main seal. But no leaks at all with the W212, so...

I could be convinced to go with 10W40. But I haven't read any super compelling reason, yet?

 

I only buy oil approved by the manufacturer and in this case the spec is MB 229.5. For the life of me, I'll never understand why someone would use an oil not specified by the manufacturer as I'm assuming they know more about the engines/cars they designed and spent billions on than me who would just have some anecdotal evidence on what oils I think might work. As you can see from the approved list, Mobil 1 0w40 is on the approved list and so is a 5w40. If you do oil change analysis, I think the 0w40 comes out on top a little over the 5w40. But as you can see from the list, there's no 10w30/10w40 oil that meets MB 229.5 spec. I basically go by the scientific method, repeatable, reproducible results. The dealers are basically using 5w40 or 0w40, they're not using 10w30 or 10w40. Lots of dealer maintained cars still on the road. I don't know about those that are using 10w30/10w40.

https://operatingfluids.mercedes-ben...sheet/229.5/en

 

A picture is worth a thousand words... These are the recommended viscosities from the owners manual, You'll note even 20W50 is acceptable and recommended down to regular low temps of 23 F, why not go right in the middle? Even 10W60 is fine down to -4F

 

I have a ME in petroleum engineering with 15 years at Lubrizol developing synthetic oils and additives, I also worked with AMSOIL for five years in development, but you do you, Read the manual.Condescension noted...

 

I work at a dealership dingus. I know a lot of "professional technicians" . I've been to independent Mercedes shops, with high online reviews ( Of course the layperson would be satisfied). With that being said, my level of knowledge and expertise at bare minimum exceeds that of a layperson. With that in mind, we can take your first statement and wholly disqualify it; throw it out. Furthermore, If based on my statement, you'd like to say it's my dealerships and the shops in my area, then that assertion would stand as I can't visit every shop and know the employees of every dealership, nor can you. What I think would be accurate assessment is that Mechanics/technicians/diagnosticians, that perform at a high level, day in, and day out, are hard to come by. The idea that every single technician at a large dealership network is going to be performing at 110% all day, every day, every minute they're clocked in- is not reasonable. The few people like that quickly rise to the top, No? Of course the people of Subpar performance get weeded out and fired but they have to **** up first, no? Finally, Most people, in most things that they do are going to try to do the least amount of input, for the maximum output. Customers shop price, a tech might not remove a part the WIS system says to save time, this may especially be the case if they're a flat rate tech. The Dealer network I work for is Top 10 on the East coast with tens of million in overhead and I've still seen new cars get mechanically totaled because the Technician doing the predelivery inspection didn't install or check a coolant hose that needs to have something done to it during PDI, As soon as the car got driven enough to reach operating temperature, the motor locked up.

I've had so called Mercedes Benz Specialists misdiagnose a failing as a low pressure fuel pump as a failing/ leaking Injector, had I not taken matters into my own hands, I would've been out thousands of dollars and solved nothing.

I've never once, in any of my posts described myself as an expert. I've never in any of my posts carry haughtiness or a know-it-all attitude. I know very well the limits of my expertise and capability. I was just very recently struggling to decipher an engine wiring diagram with the help of this forum, I was successful in fixing my car too.... You can make all the money in the world, it won't stop someone from ****ing your car up, and If that was the case, OP wouldn't have made a thread -so at this point I'm ready to say you have a downright nasty demeanor.

The attitude you have is the attitude that makes customer dread doing business with automotive shops. I'm sure based on your merits you do great mechanical work and are able to discern a good tech from a crack pot. At the same time, you do not have the all seeing eye, you do not have knowledge of the unseen and you do not know the contents of the minds of others. in short, slow your roll.

 

This is also my understanding. Because of the possibility of chain slap due to oiling issues at cold start, It would stand to reason the 0-weight oil is preferrable. I have a w212 with the M276, I got my hands on the car @70K miles and am rapidly approaching 110K, have not heard anything dissatisfactory at start up yet.

 

You said most. I said that is ridiculous. You do though prove some certainly have a terrible attitude.

 

I thought it was a fairly simple question OP asked - and then it turned into a sh*t show of egos...

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My question was a really straight forward question! Thank you-

 

Zero weight oil was developed for one reason only, to increase gas milage by one mpg, engine lubrication was secondary. Same reason your smart charging system was developed, to get 1-2 mpg, All done to get past the US EPA,

 

Last one for me was 195 at an indy.