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Old 02-24-2024, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by redaotrosh
​​​​​​Thanks, I thought it could be something wrong as the Voltage playing between 12.7v to 14.9v when driving as my old car W220 it is always 14.2V.
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By the way my old AGM battery installed on my old car and the voltage always 14.2, does that will harm the battery?
The old 14.2V regulation was perfect for the engine and the battery life span!

The more complex 12.6V float-voltage control system doesn't save significant amount of gas to make up for its complexity.
A fully charged battery under 14.4V uses the same current load as under 12.6V... zero amp, no load.

Anyway this complexity is here to stay:
  • 14.9V deceleration high-charge
  • 14.4V bulk charge rate
  • 13.7V absorption rate
  • 12.6V float rate
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Above numbers are all perfectly good voltages associated with the different battery charge level.

Any deeping below 12.3V is a disfunction that drain while-driving extreme conditions.

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Old 02-26-2024, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by redaotrosh
​​​​​​Thanks, I thought it could be something wrong as the Voltage playing between 12.7v to 14.9v when driving as my old car W220 it is always 14.2V.
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By the way my old AGM battery installed on my old car and the voltage always 14.2, does that will harm the battery?
Your 220 does not have smart charging, your 212 does, it's a complicated system, but usually only charges your battery to 80% or so.There's an encyclopedia on how it works

Yes Cali, I should have identified the author of the encyclopedia, LOL

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Originally Posted by pierrejoliat
Your 220 does not have smart charging, your 212 does, it's a complicated system, but usually only charges your battery to 80% or so.Theres an encyclopedia on how it works
These Mercedes are built very carefully. Let's factor out the exhausted battery chaos with a few details.

-- The ECU quickly bulk charges MAIN Batt to 80% with burst of 14.9V

-- then all the way to 100% fully charged with normal legacy style voltage 14.4V, 13.7V the way it used to be without smart charging.

-- then 12.6V float voltage to hold charge while supplying 100% of every electrical loads.

Great! All of that is the perfect way it's supposed to work.
However battery and chassis power are wired to help disrupt modules with noisy power.

> POOR ENGINE - CHASSIS STRAP:
While in this topic, you get to understand how there can be two strong power sources:
ALT (engine) and the Batt (chassis).

When the single chassis strap is oxidized by road projections the chassis load can no longer see ALT as a source and only see BATT as source.
OMG... BAD NEWS!

You may be reading this thinking what do I care?? Keep it in the back of your memory somewhere!

Personally I remember Master Surya at some point dealing with his GND with fat *** cables... but did not hit home why I would be doing that later myself.
Rule No1: everything Master Surya touches in depth is Golden. I really think we need an Index

WHY: the oxidized strap offer enough drop voltage under load to make the battery become a better supplier over ALT minus dropped voltage caused by our favorite poor GND strap.
If you are dealing with marginal battery performance... Install a SECONDARY GND STRAP!
It is cheap easy way to sanitize weird power glitches and tired batteries issues. No code

> BATT SENSOR:
-- The battery negative terminal has a smart sensor that measures the battery internal heat in addition to voltage and current.

-- The temperature is used to slow down charging rate in case the battery is overheating. Legacy charge circuit used to not have this data.

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