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Uh oh -- 2019 E Coupe and Cabrio -- are parking sensors standard??
Hi all,
As we know, the 2019 model year Ordering Guide for the E-class implements "different packaging strategies."
I recently ordered a very loaded E450 Cabrio, but I did not select the "Parking Assistance Package" which the 2019 Ordering Guide describes as shown in the attached pic. I figured I didn't need to spend an extra $1,290 for the car to park itself while I was selecting virtually every other expensive option.
Now I am worried: are parking sensors standard on this car? Nowhere on the Internet are parking sensors for this model mentioned or discussed; and parking sensors are neither mentioned nor discussed neither in the Ordering Guide nor on Mercedes USA's web site. Even the word "Parktronic" is nowhere to be found.
Does anybody have concrete information about this?
Here is a really strange set of circumstances regarding this mystery:
2018 E400 coupes and convertibles with Premium 1 Package have Active Parking Assist included.
Premium 1 Package also includes Burmester Audio, which has silver speakers in the doors. The standard audio system has black speakers.
This means that 2018 cars *without* any Premium package
1) would *not* have Active Parking Assist
2) *would* have black speakers on doors
Why do some 2018 E400 coupes/convertibles which *do have* black speakers in the doors also have parking sensors on the bumpers while other cars with black speakers in the doors do not?
The difference between WDD1J6FB8JF020059 (early MY18 production) and WDD1J6FB6JF046949 (mid MY18 production) is that they were produced at significantly different times, about 6 months apart. MBUSA often changes the features that are included or excluded in the base vehicle. In this case feature 235 - Active Parking Assist. Surrounf View id feature 501. It is not on the car with feature 235. In other words, Active Parking Assist and Surround View were separate entities when the car was built. I did not look at the other VIN's.
The difference between WDD1J6FB8JF020059 (early MY18 production) and WDD1J6FB6JF046949 (mid MY18 production) is that they were produced at significantly different times, about 6 months apart. MBUSA often changes the features that are included or excluded in the base vehicle. In this case feature 235 - Active Parking Assist. I did not look at the other VIN's.
Are you assuming this to be the case as a result of your observation that one car is an earlier car and another car is a later car? Or do you have concrete knowledge about this parking sensors question?
Look at the data card for each model and you'll see the differences. The mbworld.org vin decoder is not thorough so use a different one. Active Parking Sensor is code 235 and Surround View is code 501. You cannot tie either feature to the color of the tweeter covers or the audio system. You need to obtain the VIN for your car to be certain of the features that are present in the build. Your sales agent can provide that information to you. Keep in mind that base inclusions and package contents vary by country and model year. Features may change during a model year. Early MY17 W213 did not have cup holders in the front side door pockets while later builds had them.
235 is the correct code for Active Parking Assist (Parktronic) for my 2016 E350 (and build sheet). It comes with the bumper sensors and it works great. I only assume the code is the same for the W213.
BTW, I have not had any opportunity to use Parktronic for parallel parking, but I use it regularly for perpendicular parking in parking lots everywhere.
235 is the correct code for Active Parking Assist (Parktronic) for my 2016 E350 (and build sheet). It comes with the bumper sensors and it works great. I only assume the code is the same for the W213.
BTW, I have not had any opportunity to use Parktronic for parallel parking, but I use it regularly for perpendicular parking in parking lots everywhere.
Thank you for the responses so far.
i should note that Active Parking Assist and Parktronic are not synonymous. Sure, Active Parking Assist includes bumper sensors, but bumper sensors existed (as “Parktronic”) long before Active Parking Assist (which actually parks the car for the driver) was born.
Many car manufacturers have made bumper sensors standard and if not, they are a nominal charge either inside a package or as standalone. I find it egregious that for 2019 Mercedes is requiring a $1,290 a la carte expenditure in order to have bumper sensors. I don’t need to spend $1,290 to have a car park itself for me. But I do like bumper sensors - as most everyone else does who has been driving luxury cars for over 20 years.
The $1,290 is for far more than bumper sensors! It also includes feature 501 - Surround View System that has several cameras that aid in close maneuvering.
The $1,290 is for far more than bumper sensors! It also includes feature 501 - Surround View System that has several cameras that aid in close maneuvering.
I know that. Did you read my first post and see that I explained the situation and attached the order guide photo?
By your logic the warmth and comfort package costs $4,200 because it can't be had without P1.
The AMG brakes can't be had without the car so they cost over 60k.
By your logic the warmth and comfort package costs $4,200 because it can't be had without P1.
The AMG brakes can't be had without the car so they cost over 60k.
Hey bud give it a rest.
I already demonstrated that previously, cars with ZERO selected options had parking sensors. And some equipped the same did not. Was Mercedes giving away the sensors for free for a limited time?
You responded to my demonstration with a fancy explanation which told everybody things they already knew (like sometimes manufacturers change things without notice), but you did not offer specific knowledge about those cars I used as examples besides the indication that the VIN numbers were different.
We all know that parking sensors were previously included by Mercedes in useful packages like Premium Package.
If you want to call it logic, fine. You cannot get Parking sensors without spending $1,290 on a package which includes an automatic parking system.
Previously, that wasn’t the case. Almost everyone and every dealer selected Premium Package which included various essential stuff and also parking sensors, whether together with Active Parking Assist in the Premium Package or not. There’s a reason why there are only about five 2018 cars in the whole country that were built without any Premium Package.
Give it a rest bud. If you don’t wish to help me out by helping me figure out my original question, then just move on.
i should note that Active Parking Assist and Parktronic are not synonymous.
The terms are most certainly synonymous. One can do VIN searches from different sources and the terms are used interchangeably to describe Code 235. Active Parling Assist means Parktronic... the need for the sensors is immaterial to the order terms, as the sensors are used for several other features... in addition to Parktronic.
If it helps, the system offers more than auto parking. I use the sensors all the time to avoid concrete parking stops on head-in parking. And the sensors are especially useful while parking in the garage. As well as part of the collision avoidance system on the highway as they warn when a car changes into your lane too close to you, and if you are looking at that Smart phone when you should have eyes ahead and someone stops short. (Code 258 Collision Warn System with Active brake Intervention.)
So, if you ordered Code 258, then you will have at least 8 sensors for that purpose, whether or not you got Parktronic with all 12 sensors.
The terms are most certainly synonymous. One can do VIN searches from different sources and the terms are used interchangeably to describe Code 235. Active Parling Assist means Parktronic... the need for the sensors is immaterial to the order terms, as the sensors are used for several other features... in addition to Parktronic.
If it helps, the system offers more than auto parking. I use the sensors all the time to avoid concrete parking stops on head-in parking. And the sensors are especially useful while parking in the garage. As well as part of the collision avoidance system on the highway as they warn when a car changes into your lane too close to you, and if you are looking at that Smart phone when you should have eyes ahead and someone stops short. (Code 258 Collision Warn System with Active brake Intervention.)
Are you suggesting that the Driver Assistance Package includes bumper sensors?
That's the way it works in my car. And I forgot to mention that the Blind Spot Monitoring system (Code 234) also uses the sensors.
In short, what you described as "parking sensors" in your initial post is too confined a definition. The "bumper sensors" are used for many functions.
Okay we are unpacking some useful information here.
Next question - if there are sensors on the bumper which may exist as a result of Driver Assist Package or Blind Spot Monitoring, does that always mean that the car will beep and buzz if traveling too close to an object in a parking situation?
Okay we are unpacking some useful information here.
Next question - if there are sensors on the bumper which may exist as a result of Driver Assist Package or Blind Spot Monitoring, does that always mean that the car will beep and buzz if traveling too close to an object in a parking situation?
Whether you hear beeps or not depends on the feature used and the situation. If a car suddenly intrudes into your lane, you will get the beeps. But if the same car simply rides in your left-rear blind spot, you will not get any beeps, just the visual warning in the mirror. HOWEVER, if you apply your left turn signal, the system WILL beep to alert you not to change lanes.
Likewise the system will alert you (both beeps and lights above the dash or above the rear window) when you manually park the car. The closer to an obstruction, the more lights/beeps, etc. But if you use the Parktronic feature, logically it will not beep at all, since the car is maneuvering itself.
Lots of other examples. Maybe others will add some.
Whether you hear beeps or not depends on the feature used and the situation. If a car suddenly intrudes into your lane, you will get the beeps. But if the same car simply rides in your left-rear blind spot, you will not get any beeps, just the visual warning in the mirror. HOWEVER, if you apply your left turn signal, the system WILL beep to alert you not to change lanes.
Likewise the system will alert you (both beeps and lights above the dash or above the rear window) when you manually park the car. The closer to an obstruction, the more lights/beeps, etc. But if you use the Parktronic feature, logically it will not beep at all, since the car is maneuvering itself.
Lots of other examples. Maybe others will add some.
Thank you. I own a host of luxury cars including a 2017 SL63 with Active Parking Assist, Active Lane Keep Assist, Driver Assist Package, etc. I’m very familiar with all the systems and have been for over 10 years.
I tried to phrase my question carefully because we have established that Parking Assist Package may not be necessary in order to observe a car equipped with sensors on the bumpers. But still we haven’t established whether those sensors would function as parking sensors in a parking situation, and that was my question.
We have established that sensors will exist on the bumpers if the vehicle is equipped with Driver Assist or Blind Spot Assist.
What I am asking is: however the sensors on the bumpers got there, if they are there, will they always aid in a parking lot situation with audible alerts (“Parktronic”)?
Conversely: can we say for sure that a selection of Driver Assistance Package circumvents the need to select Parking Assistance Package? Meaning that the Driver Assistance Package will put sensors on the bumpers which will sense distance in the parking lot and provide the appropriate alerts?
Active Parking Assist and Parktronic are not synonomous. The first is a smart system which automatically parks cars; and by default, it senses distances with bumper sensors. The second is a only system of dumb sensors on the bumpers which merely sense distance and communicate via audible and visual alerts. Naturally, the first always includes the second. But I’ve noticed that the term “Parktronic” has disappeared from Mercedes marketing and I suspect it’s because Mercedes is not making Parktronic available unless it is together with the Active Parking Assist feature, which is contained in the Parking Assistance Package along with surround view.
2019 E 450, 2016 E350 4matic (retired), 2018 Ford Edge Sport, 2008 Porsche Boxster
I will be ordering a 2019 E450 without the Parking Assistance package (996) as I am fully able to park myself. I have this feature on my Ford Edge Sport and I have used it once in three years - just to see that it works - it did, but was not worth the effort.
I intend to get the Driver Assistance package (997), Premium package (PO1) and Exterior lighting package (319) plus heated steering wheel (443) on my 2019 E450.
I have read the entire thread: When I park the car as ordered above, as I approach the car behind, will there warning beeps that intensify as I get closer to the car?
Has anyone demod a car without the Parking Assistance package to see what happens when you back up or go forward towards a car in front you you?
I know this feature, beeping is standard on Toyota, Honda and Ford!
MB parking doesn't work that way. You'll have a visual display from the rear mounted camera. If you get too close to an obstacle you'll get beeping and a red segment will light showing where the obstacle is. That said, parking is not included in the Driver Assistance package.
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