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Old 12-09-2018, 08:08 AM
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Test drove E450 and A6 yesterday

I test drove a 2019 A6 and E450 yesterday.

Starting the day, I was leaning toward the E. After the test drives, though, I’m leaning strongly toward the A6.

. The Siri like voice interface in the A6 was truly amazing and goes a long way toward mitigating touch screen issues(“I’m cold” to warm up the cabin. I’ll have to try “My butt’s cold” and see if the seat heater is adjusted....) The voice interface on the E was average for cars, which is to say mediocre. The A6 touchscreen was a physically “slippery“ and needed attention. The infotainment on the E was dated, but fairly straightforward.

. I much preferred the A6 normal tires and a spare (albeit donut) over the E run-flats.

. I was concerned that the steel springs on the A6 wouldn’t be as smooth as the air springs in the E. Wrong. Both were excellent in this regard. The A6 seemed a bit quieter, but the E didn’t have the acoustic package..

. Engine and handling performance seemed identical in both, albeit for a short, 15 minute test drive. Unfortunately noticed a slight hesitation in both.

. The E has a much more functional smartphone interface, with remote start, a big plus.

. Not the major factor, but similarly equipped the A6 was substantially less expensive.

. Untested, but I’m guessing that Apple CarPlay will be more natural with a touchscreen.

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Thanks for your thoughts on these two cars. One that caught my attention was "slight hesitation in both" For the E class, if you were in Comfort mode, it starts off in 2nd gear which can be a bit sluggish in terms of turbo lag. In Sport mode, no lag noticed for me. I've owned an Audi that I really did enjoy, though turbo lag even when starting in first gear was pronounced.
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Originally Posted by teksurv
Thanks for your thoughts on these two cars. One that caught my attention was "slight hesitation in both" For the E class, if you were in Comfort mode, it starts off in 2nd gear which can be a bit sluggish in terms of turbo lag. In Sport mode, no lag noticed for me. I've owned an Audi that I really did enjoy, though turbo lag even when starting in first gear was pronounced.
Second that. There's no lag in S and in S+ its at least as good (actually even more responsive) as '14 E550 TTV8 I came from.
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Yes, in sport or sport plus the E450 is very responsive and feel downright fast and exhilarating to drive. No complaints from me relating to performance with this powertrain. Very happy I bought two E450's. No regrets. I've driven lots of cars and these cars are amongst some of the best I've ever driven. Fuel economy is great too. I got 32 mpg highway in my E450 wagon this weekend on a 250 mile round trip. Pretty amazing. A lot less gas stops than in my E63 AMG Wagon I use to have. I'm very happy with the tech in the E450 also.
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I'm beyond happy with my E450. Having owned MANY MB cars over the years, this one overall may well be my favorite! A car should put a smile on your face when you see it. You should look forward to getting behind the wheel. And it should inspire confidence when you drive it. On all counts my E450 does this and more.
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Originally Posted by Helmar
The infotainment on the E was dated, but fairly straightforward.
I must say that I'm quite surprised by this statement.

Of course everybody has their own opinion, but to describe the infotainment system on the E-class as "dated" seems unfounded to me, and I've experienced many different cars including Audi's latest. Unless the E450 you tested did not feature COMAND Online with the Widescreen Cockpit? In which case, I could see how it might seem that way in comparison to that of the new A6.
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Originally Posted by stephos
I must say that I'm quite surprised by this statement..
By “dated” I was referring to two aspects:

1. Non-touchscreen knob controlled menu scrolling. Mercedes is moving away from this with MBUX.

2. The more limited, traditional voice command, vs the Siri like voice command on the A6.

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Originally Posted by Helmar

By “dated” I was referring to two aspects:

1. Non-touchscreen knob controlled menu scrolling. Mercedes is moving away from this with MBUX.

2. The more limited, traditional voice command, vs the Siri like voice command on the A6.

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I'm not looking forward to touch screens in a MB. To me, they're a worse distraction which will take my eyes away from the most important task at hand, which is driving. I can do most anything I really need to do in my E450 via voice command or via the intelligent steering wheel track controls.
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Originally Posted by rbrylaw
I'm not looking forward to touch screens in a MB. To me, they're a worse distraction which will take my eyes away from the most important task at hand, which is driving. I can do most anything I really need to do in my E450 via voice command or via the intelligent steering wheel track controls.
This precisely. I hate touchscreens in cars. Furthermore, I'm very underwhelmed with the Audi NAV system. It's mediocre at best compared to the wide-screen in the MB. However, admittedly, the audi voice recognition is superior. Would that I used it more. Everything in my cars is shortcut friendly.
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Originally Posted by nycebo
This precisely. I hate touchscreens in cars. Furthermore, I'm very underwhelmed with the Audi NAV system. It's mediocre at best compared to the wide-screen in the MB. However, admittedly, the audi voice recognition is superior. Would that I used it more. Everything in my cars is shortcut friendly.
One of the great things in our cars is the redundancy built it. We can use the Steering Wheel Track Pads. We can use our Voice. We can use the Comand Control Wheel. We can even push a button for Nav or Radio. However one wants to create a workflow that meets their needs, we've got great options in our cars. I know Mercedes has to keep up by bringing what people want - hence MBUX. But this person doesn't want a touch screen in his car. Though the Voice Assistant which is also part of MBUX will be very welcome and cool.
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From one who had the touch screen CUE system in their Cadillac, it's the one thing all us ATS owners hated. The finger prints alone was such a hassle and a nuisance to keep clean. Plus the fact that it took your eyes off the road to do the simplest tasks. Almost got into accidents myself numerous times just messing with it. I love the MB control knob; so easy to use and you keep your eyes on the road more often. Touchscreens? No thanks!
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I agree. I’m very happy with the command system in the Mercedes. I don’t like touchscreens. Hated the Cadillac cue. I can’t even stand those big screens in the Tesla’s. Not sure if they are touchscreen or not but way too big and in your face.
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I agree. I’m very happy with the command system in the Mercedes. I don’t like touchscreens. Hated the Cadillac cue. I can’t even stand those big screens in the Tesla’s. Not sure if they are touchscreen or not but way too big and in your face.
Oh yes indeedy, those honking huge Tesla screens are just a honking huge finger print waiting to happen.
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Originally Posted by Helmar

By “dated” I was referring to two aspects:

1. Non-touchscreen knob controlled menu scrolling. Mercedes is moving away from this with MBUX.

2. The more limited, traditional voice command, vs the Siri like voice command on the A6.

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Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying @Helmar

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