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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 08:47 AM
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Questions Re: Acoustic Comfort Pkg.

I just ordered a 2020 with Acoustic Comfort Pkg.

Have a few questions for those that have it:

1) Do the windows come with any more tint than a car without it?
Reason I want to know is I want to tint the windows with same amount of tint I now have on the car I am turning in so can I just tell the tint guy to use same as he did on the existing car without Acoustic Pkg or does he need to compensate if there is already tint with the Acoustic Pkg.
2) Real reason I got he Acoustic Pkg was to help with "road noise" from pavement so will be better able to hear sound system ect.....does the Acustic Pkg help with that
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 09:56 AM
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I had a noise issue with my 2017 GLC300, and the dealer replaced both front door glass with acoustic. It did make a difference, as measured before-and-after with a decibel meter app in my iPhone, driving same speeds on same roads, similar traffic. Acoustic glass is effective, and easy to detect by looking at the edge of the glass--you can see a laminate sheet sandwiched between two thin sheets of glass. This glass is also highly impact-resistant--there are some video clips of someone trying to break it with a hammer--it takes repeated hard strikes.
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by steve sl550
I just ordered a 2020 with Acoustic Comfort Pkg.

Have a few questions for those that have it:

1) Do the windows come with any more tint than a car without it?
The front side windows only have the laminated feature, or sound absorbing membrane, for sound. I don't think there is any tinting at all. The windshield has the sound absorbing membrane, plus it is infra-red absorbing. Given the restrictions in various states in windshield tint, I doubt there any observable tint there.
2) Real reason I got he Acoustic Pkg was to help with "road noise" from pavement so will be better able to hear sound system ect.....does the Acustic Pkg help with that
It should help quite a bit. I am considering it as well. Especially as I intend getting a wagon, which is naturally more noisy.
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 12:27 PM
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I got on my wife's E400 wagon and it is very quiet. It's wise to get it on a wagon as you have so much glass. My wife always comments about how quiet her car is.
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 05:36 PM
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I have a 2017 E300 with the PAF (acoustic) package. It does not come with tint on any of the windows. I had my tint guy use the same tinting as on my 2015 E350. Florida legal on the driver and passenger front windows (forget what tint level that is) and one shade darker on the rear side and rear windows. The PAF package is well worth the cost in my opinion.
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 10:22 PM
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Tx to all

Based on responses glad I ordered the PAF

Also good to know does NOT come with tint so I will tint as I have to all my other cars.

Tx again to all above
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 11:25 PM
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I’ve had 2 E-class wagons in the last year, one with and one without the Acoustic Comfort package, so I can compare these quite closely. There is no readily discernible tint difference. The sound level difference is definitely noticeable. The infrared blocking aspect of the Acoustic Comfort package is also noticeable. I intentionally haven’t tinted my second wagon until the end of the summer, so I could test the difference. It’s in the shop for tint as I type this.
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 11:32 PM
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My only problem with the Acoustic Comfort Package, other than cost, is the windshield will block my radar detector. Meaning I only have 2 places (center just above the dash, or to the right of the mirror, in the way of the sunshade. I /really/ wanted to mount it under the mirror, but I guess I have to choose what I want more.
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rraisley
My only problem with the Acoustic Comfort Package, other than cost, is the windshield will block my radar detector. Meaning I only have 2 places (center just above the dash, or to the right of the mirror, in the way of the sunshade. I /really/ wanted to mount it under the mirror, but I guess I have to choose what I want more.
Same with the hands free/RFID commercial parking entry cards. You have to stick them in a certain spot, just to the right of the rearview mirror and even then they dont work until you are right under the scanner...plus passengers always comment on the access card stuck in such an obvious place on the windshield. For a while I kept in in the center console and would waive it out the window and toss it back in the console, but it was kind of a PITA and gave up and stuck it to the windshield and pretty much dont notice it anymore.

More irritating was that it blocks your home garage door opener signal so you have to (again) get really close to the GDO for the signal to penetrate the glass. I fixed this with the Tailwind app and hardware (Amazon) and now the door opens 300 feet away from the house.

Ive noticed absolutely no difference in heat transmission. I live in the hottest part of Los Angeles, YRMV.

It is, however the quietest car ive ever been in. We take it on trips and it is super quiet inside and makes it worth the $1,100...(notwithstanding the crappy run flat foam filled tires that vibrate the car).

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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo
More irritating was that it blocks your home garage door opener signal so you have to (again) get really close to the GDO for the signal to penetrate the glass. I fixed this with the Tailwind app and hardware (Amazon) and now the door opens 300 feet away from the house.
What about the built-in garage door opener mounted on the mirror? Surely, that still works with the IR windshield?
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rraisley
What about the built-in garage door opener mounted on the mirror? Surely, that still works with the IR windshield?
Yes, maybe he has an old gdo.
I am glad I got the acoustic treatment, sedan, not station wagon, and I think the IR is great, as I live in AZ where the sun blazes. I also had my tint guy do the windshield inside with another layer, so I cannot be sure how much is blocked by the glass vs the layer he added.
The noise level is low, however, and that is a big part of the value for me. I hardly hear other vehicles whizzing by.

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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 03:15 PM
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by madtrader
I’ve had 2 E-class wagons in the last year, one with and one without the Acoustic Comfort package, so I can compare these quite closely. There is no readily discernible tint difference. The sound level difference is definitely noticeable. The infrared blocking aspect of the Acoustic Comfort package is also noticeable. I intentionally haven’t tinted my second wagon until the end of the summer, so I could test the difference. It’s in the shop for tint as I type this.
Which type of glass did your 2nd wagon have? Regular or acoustic? And I thought it was only the front windshield that has IR-blocking properties with the acoustic package, meaning that only like 20% (less if you include the panoramic sunroof) has any benefit against solar heat gain while parked in the sun? (you'd have to park the car facing the sun to reject the most heat, right?)

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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gearFX
Which type of glass did your 2nd wagon have? Regular or acoustic? And I thought it was only the front windshield that has IR-blocking properties with the acoustic package, meaning that only like 20% (less if you include the panoramic sunroof) has any benefit against solar heat gain while parked in the sun? (you'd have to park the car facing the run to reject the most heat, right?)
Others here have mentioned that the side glass (even all of it) is IR-blocking, but the current description is quite specific: Windshield and front side windows have acoustic glass (laminated), while only the windshield has IR. I agree with your point: the IR-blocking isn't going to be blocking much. I ordered it despite the IR-blocking windshield, which is going to cause a problem with my Valentine One, based on a wagon, especially, being rather loud, and this should quiet it up quite a bit. Of course, the windshield is also the the only glass surface that cannot, by law, be tinted (very much, depending on state, usually just the top 6" or so). Other windows can be tinted darker. So, while you can add tint to reduce sunlight and IR intrusion to other windows, you normally can't to the windshield, so it's good that it's available in IR-blocking.
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Old Sep 7, 2019 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gearFX
Which type of glass did your 2nd wagon have? Regular or acoustic? And I thought it was only the front windshield that has IR-blocking properties with the acoustic package, meaning that only like 20% (less if you include the panoramic sunroof) has any benefit against solar heat gain while parked in the sun? (you'd have to park the car facing the run to reject the most heat, right?)
The first wagon, purchased August last year, did not have the acoustic comfort package. This second wagon, delivered in March this year, has the acoustic comfort package. I was told that the front and side windows do IR blocking and have the lamination that helps reduce noise transmission. There was some debate about the cargo area side windows that I was never able to confirm. There are quite some differences between my wagons that may also contribute to the temperature differences beyond the acoustic comfort package in the summer weather, but hands down the second wagon is literally cooler. No doubt in my mind. I intend to do a one year, two wagons write-up to share my experience. Just waiting on getting my car back from the detail shop with my latest changes for some up-to-date pictures.
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Originally Posted by steve sl550
I just ordered a 2020 with Acoustic Comfort Pkg.

Have a few questions for those that have it:

1) Do the windows come with any more tint than a car without it?
Reason I want to know is I want to tint the windows with same amount of tint I now have on the car I am turning in so can I just tell the tint guy to use same as he did on the existing car without Acoustic Pkg or does he need to compensate if there is already tint with the Acoustic Pkg.
2) Real reason I got he Acoustic Pkg was to help with "road noise" from pavement so will be better able to hear sound system ect.....does the Acustic Pkg help with that
1: There is NO tint on the windows. It's like sitting in an aquarium.

2: Yes.
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Does anyone know if the windshield is also using acoustic glass? Recently bought a CPO and they had to replace the windshield, not sure if I should check to verify they replaced it with the acoustic glass windshield if applicable. Thanks.
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Does anyone know if the windshield is also using acoustic glass? Recently bought a CPO and they had to replace the windshield, not sure if I should check to verify they replaced it with the acoustic glass windshield if applicable. Thanks.
Yes and the acoustic windshield is thicker so a non-acoustic wouldn't fit right,
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Old Sep 7, 2019 | 11:58 PM
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Does anyone know if the windshield is also using acoustic glass? Recently bought a CPO and they had to replace the windshield, not sure if I should check to verify they replaced it with the acoustic glass windshield if applicable. Thanks.
Someone else here has had to have theirs replaced and reported it was an ordeal due to lack of spare acoustic package windshields available . I’d check the part number on it to be sure. Can’t be too careful and it should be an easy check.
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What about the built-in garage door opener mounted on the mirror? Surely, that still works with the IR windshield?
Same thing. I have to pull into the driveway about 20 feet from the door.

Originally Posted by CaptainE
Yes, maybe he has an old gdo.
Nope. 2019 Sommer EVO+

I can open the door one house down the street in my Wife's car.
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The inbuilt opener in my car with ACP can open my garage door from 300' - 500' away depending on the direction of my approach.
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 01:23 AM
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The homelink on my car opens from 400-500 feet as I approach my cul de sac. Helps when I forget to close and am driving away.
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Originally Posted by CaptainE
The homelink on my car opens from 400-500 feet as I approach my cul de sac. Helps when I forget to close and am driving away.
That's why I have a myQ door opener. It will send me an alert if the door remains open for a specified amount of time.
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That's why I have a myQ door opener. It will send me an alert if the door remains open for a specified amount of time.
Also why I have a 5 minute delay set on my Chamberlain door opener; after 5 minutes, it closes itself.
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I tried using the delay feature, but too many time I must keep the door open for a lengthy period of time.
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