The Mercedes-Benz E-Class Is the 2021 MotorTrend Car of the Year
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The Mercedes-Benz E-Class Is the 2021 MotorTrend Car of the Year
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Just checked the MSRP on my 2019 E450: without destination charges $69,210.
A 2021 E450 with the exact same equipment and color, again without destination charges, the MSRP is $68,120.
That is a savings in MSRP of over $1,000.
When the lease on my 2019 runs out next December, it will be interesting to see how my present lease, $896 a month compares with a lease on the 2021.
A 2021 E450 with the exact same equipment and color, again without destination charges, the MSRP is $68,120.
That is a savings in MSRP of over $1,000.
When the lease on my 2019 runs out next December, it will be interesting to see how my present lease, $896 a month compares with a lease on the 2021.
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Awesome, the best in class gets even better. Even more impressive is that it won being a face-lifted car versus all new cars like the 8-Series Gran Coupe and even Porsche Taycan. A well deserved win in my opinion.
Some great quotes from the article:
Some great quotes from the article:
Originally Posted by MotorTrend
The Mercedes-Benz E-Class carries the stout imprimatur of old-school luxury, from the graining of the dashboard wood to the suppleness of the heated and ventilated, posture-correct leather seats. But it is also thoroughly modern, from the robust yet efficient responsiveness of its engines to the plethora of high-tech and high-zoot features. The E-Class epitomizes an automotive brand in full, one whose currency in the current zeitgeist of automotive wants and desires is unmatched.
It's the one that makes everyone feel special, the one that delivers the best experience, and the one that stands out from the rest of the segment. It does everything right and shows the legacy that it has playing in a segment like this. Feels truly like a Mercedes should. And it does it all naturally.
Whatever the shape or task, the E-Class excels. The sedan is firmly in the "family transport" milieu without sacrificing performance when needed. The coupe is rigid and gutsy, the convertible a luxe seaside conveyance with a top-down "Air Cap" that won't disturb your intentionally tousled coif, and the AMG E63S Wagon is a thunderbolt that will transform anyone's preconceived idea of a Montessori-mobile.
In addition, clicking through drive modes provides actual dynamic differences in throttle, braking, and suspension response. You want to loaf along with your family? Done. You want to charge up a canyon? Check. You want to tackle an autocross? Can do—though testing director Kim Reynolds noted that the sedans felt "fast but heavy" in the figure eight. Hey, you want bank vault safety and an indomitable ride? That adds some pounds, but as Reynolds added, "It's as solid as granite."
"The Mercedes feels three times as well built, as well engineered, as sophisticated as the competition," Lieberman said. "The Mercedes is a superior vehicle in terms of ride quality, dynamics, kinematics, or any other measurements you can think of. You feel the difference." And that is the definition of excellence in motion.
It's the one that makes everyone feel special, the one that delivers the best experience, and the one that stands out from the rest of the segment. It does everything right and shows the legacy that it has playing in a segment like this. Feels truly like a Mercedes should. And it does it all naturally.
Whatever the shape or task, the E-Class excels. The sedan is firmly in the "family transport" milieu without sacrificing performance when needed. The coupe is rigid and gutsy, the convertible a luxe seaside conveyance with a top-down "Air Cap" that won't disturb your intentionally tousled coif, and the AMG E63S Wagon is a thunderbolt that will transform anyone's preconceived idea of a Montessori-mobile.
In addition, clicking through drive modes provides actual dynamic differences in throttle, braking, and suspension response. You want to loaf along with your family? Done. You want to charge up a canyon? Check. You want to tackle an autocross? Can do—though testing director Kim Reynolds noted that the sedans felt "fast but heavy" in the figure eight. Hey, you want bank vault safety and an indomitable ride? That adds some pounds, but as Reynolds added, "It's as solid as granite."
"The Mercedes feels three times as well built, as well engineered, as sophisticated as the competition," Lieberman said. "The Mercedes is a superior vehicle in terms of ride quality, dynamics, kinematics, or any other measurements you can think of. You feel the difference." And that is the definition of excellence in motion.
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The Merc has a smoother engine, and the BMW has a smoother gearbox. Came from 20+ years of BMW's, I have the 53-series engine (3.0L Turbo I6 + Mild Hybrid + EQ Supercharger) and it is incredibly smooth, builds power almost NA like, however I haven't driven a 450 which may feel different due to no torque fill boost since it doesn't have the supercharger. Auto Star Stop is also smooth as well.
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Interesting comment about the BMW transmission. I did not like my BMW 5 series because it seemed to hunt between gears when driving around town.
The BMW was better at "spirited" driving that I don't do much anymore.
The BMW was better at "spirited" driving that I don't do much anymore.
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I had a 2017 540i, a new G30 generation 5-series I inherited and hated that car. Great luxury car, but a bad BMW in my opinion, just felt like a Buick, which was really sad. My father had every generation of 5-series up to the E60 (2004-2010) and still has his E60 because he hates the way the new one drives.
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I had an E60 and a G30. I sold the E60 and got the G30. I didn't like it and sold it. I traded my MB W211 for my current W213. I'm currently down 2 cars, but I'm waiting for the EQ series to hit the market.
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I drove a E350 last week, was pretty impressed with it for a 4 cylinder. Liked it a lot better that the E300. The E's with the 4 cylinders are the cars they give as loaners at the dealer, was having my V6 3.0 wagon worked on at the dealer, I like that better than any 4 cylinder.
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I traded my 2016 BMW 528 because I was not happy with the 4 cyl engine. I love the 3L I6 in my X5. When the X5 lease is up in about a year we plan to go back to a sedan or maybe a wagon if I can talk my wife into a wagon. I don't want to be disappointed with another 4 cylinder.
Is the motor in the '21 E350 a new motor or just tweaked from the 2020? Why is it considered better?
Is the motor in the '21 E350 a new motor or just tweaked from the 2020? Why is it considered better?
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I traded my 2016 BMW 528 because I was not happy with the 4 cyl engine. I love the 3L I6 in my X5. When the X5 lease is up in about a year we plan to go back to a sedan or maybe a wagon if I can talk my wife into a wagon. I don't want to be disappointed with another 4 cylinder.
Is the motor in the '21 E350 a new motor or just tweaked from the 2020? Why is it considered better?
Is the motor in the '21 E350 a new motor or just tweaked from the 2020? Why is it considered better?
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My issue with the I-4's is their lack of engine refinement. While I have not driven the new one (255HP), I would hope that they are quieter. Just about every automotive article you read on the I-4, the engine gets a minus on the lack of quietness. As of now, I will continue to order the I-6 like the one I have on our CLS 450. 
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My issue with the I-4's is their lack of engine refinement. While I have not driven the new one (255HP), I would hope that they are quieter. Just about every automotive article you read on the I-4, the engine gets a minus on the lack of quietness. As of now, I will continue to order the I-6 like the one I have on our CLS 450.
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I wasn't relating specifically to the number of cylinders per se. It is just that this engine appears at least to me and others a bit unrefined. I have had V-8' and V-6's from MB and while their injectors did sound a bit noisy, their noise at least as i recollect, were mute once the engine were running at normal temperature. Having worked at MB for a few years, MB was aware of this issue, but chose to continue its development as it is now.
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MB does not typically use direct injection. Instead they use port injection. Direct injection improves combustion efficiency and economy while lowering emissions.
You can than the EPA for the noise.
You can than the EPA for the noise.
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As an old guy....I’ve had my share of S class 8 cylinder cars. Not to mention a few 7’s along the way. The 2021 E350....is smooth, quiet, and torque rich immediate. Not certain how it was modified. I’ve been a snob about the 4s..until now. I would refer to the newer E and 5 class as the “4 cylinder aspect”....until now.
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Is it worth getting the 2021 if you have a 2017? Is the juice worth the squeeze? I feel it hard to imagine that much of a driving experience difference. I’ve driven the 2020, in Comfort mode was a bit more peppier then the Comfort mode in 2017. But in sport it’s about the same. I guess my question is, where is the difference? Just driving mode tweaks or is there a material change in the handling/braking/acceleration?
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Refreshed E is a great car, well deserved.
As for the four banger, yes better than ever and numbers to match previous larger engines. However difference between 50% throttle and 100% throttle hardly noticeable. Still needs to work pretty hard to get there compared with a more linear six.
As for the four banger, yes better than ever and numbers to match previous larger engines. However difference between 50% throttle and 100% throttle hardly noticeable. Still needs to work pretty hard to get there compared with a more linear six.
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Better handling through the Starbucks Drive-thru? LOL. What exactly is better? I can lower my car to the ground and fly around turns, but it will ride like a horse covered wagon on rough roads. And how much of an improvement is it? Can you exit an off ramp at 60mph now or is the around town going to Starbucks and Walgreens smoother?
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When I started this thread is was for point of information only.
Do not let me regret it.
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I do have an update- information related only, no more bickering LOL
The only changes to suspension and handling were to the 53 AMG. Which is actually really interesting they are expanding and improving upon the 53 models. Some info about the SPEEDSHIFT transmission. Check out the read, its long but detailed.
https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...foTypeId=40626
The new Mercedes-AMG E 53 4MATIC+: extensive update with a fresh look and even sportier equipment
Short shift times, high efficiency: AMG SPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G transmission
The new 3.0-litre in-line engine is coupled with the AMG SPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G transmission, which impresses with extremely short shift times, fast response to shift paddle commands, a double-declutching function and multiple downshifts. Whether automatic or initiated by the driver using the steering wheel shift paddles, upshifts or downshifts are implemented instantly. Especially in the "Sport+" drive program and in manual mode, the transmission is very responsive. Dynamic acceleration and very short shift times are just as available as a fuel-efficient driving style, depending on the selected mode.
Suspension and handling related here:
Characteristics at the touch of a finger: AMG DYNAMIC SELECT
Independent AMG RIDE CONTROL+ suspension
AMG Dynamic Plus Package
The only changes to suspension and handling were to the 53 AMG. Which is actually really interesting they are expanding and improving upon the 53 models. Some info about the SPEEDSHIFT transmission. Check out the read, its long but detailed.
https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...foTypeId=40626
The new Mercedes-AMG E 53 4MATIC+: extensive update with a fresh look and even sportier equipment
Short shift times, high efficiency: AMG SPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G transmission
The new 3.0-litre in-line engine is coupled with the AMG SPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G transmission, which impresses with extremely short shift times, fast response to shift paddle commands, a double-declutching function and multiple downshifts. Whether automatic or initiated by the driver using the steering wheel shift paddles, upshifts or downshifts are implemented instantly. Especially in the "Sport+" drive program and in manual mode, the transmission is very responsive. Dynamic acceleration and very short shift times are just as available as a fuel-efficient driving style, depending on the selected mode.
Suspension and handling related here:
Characteristics at the touch of a finger: AMG DYNAMIC SELECT
Independent AMG RIDE CONTROL+ suspension
AMG Dynamic Plus Package
