Coolant Pump pre-recall warning of fire risk
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Coolant Pump pre-recall warning of fire risk
Does anyone have more information on the coolant pump pre-recall warning? It seems like it isn't a recall only because MB has no parts at this time to rectify. I didn't see any bulletins on this issue in the bulletins sticky.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ix-2022-01-04/
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ix-2022-01-04/
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This source reports the recall applies to diesel models.
https://netherlandsnewslive.com/merc...ir-car/325525/
https://netherlandsnewslive.com/merc...ir-car/325525/
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Can someone post a diagram of exactly where the affected parts are so that one can visually check for leaks or whatever the issue is?
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Looks like the wife's car belongs to the time frame. We have not received any letter even if Dutch know owners on other countries have received one.
I wonder how a coolant leak can cause a fire?
I wonder how a coolant leak can cause a fire?
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Other than that, coolant can also cause electrical sparks. Not to mention coolant being flammable. If the vehicle has low coolant, the engine can heat up quick and heat plus other environmental factors could cause a fire.
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1) Diesel software update
2) Transfer coolant agent
3) Takata airbags.
No sign for this coolant pump change, so i think that they havn't updated their site's info and data base...
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Yeah, mine too. It's with OM654 and it's build in the middle of 2018s. Still no letter from local dealer. I've checked my car in Daimler's site by FIN and it seems that my car is not affected (for now...). It says that my car is not affected for:
1) Diesel software update
2) Transfer coolant agent
3) Takata airbags.
No sign for this coolant pump change, so i think that they havn't updated their site's info and data base...
1) Diesel software update
2) Transfer coolant agent
3) Takata airbags.
No sign for this coolant pump change, so i think that they havn't updated their site's info and data base...
Would the German site cover only cars sold to the German market?
EDIT: I found the web page, at the moment it says 0 issues for our W213.
Last edited by Diesel Benz; Jan 6, 2022 at 06:04 AM.
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Don't you have a hybrid? I believe the coolant pump is electric in that case and I cannot see how this current issue could happen there. It does not have any of the coolant flow control as the mechanical pump, the electric motor handles that.
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I think not, it's worldwide (except North America). Nevertheless, the problem is spread out to GLC, GLE, GLS, C-,E-, CLS and even G class with both of the newest diesel engines OM654 and OM656. I guess that if split 800 000 vehicles to all effected models and engines, it will affect ~100 000 cars by model for the cars sold for 3 years in the rest of the world... It seams to me that, the chance it's low for every single MB owner. But this is just a guess.
But i will check my coolant pump regular for leaks.
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are you sure? i thought when driving on gasoline the car functions as a "regular" petrol car...
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I'm checking it here: --> https://www.mercedes-benz.de/passeng...ll.module.html
I think not, it's worldwide (except North America). Nevertheless, the problem is spread out to GLC, GLE, GLS, C-,E-, CLS and even G class with both of the newest diesel engines OM654 and OM656. I guess that if split 800 000 vehicles to all effected models and engines, it will affect ~100 000 cars by model for the cars sold for 3 years in the rest of the world... It seams to me that, the chance it's low for every single MB owner. But this is just a guess.
But i will check my coolant pump regular for leaks.
I think not, it's worldwide (except North America). Nevertheless, the problem is spread out to GLC, GLE, GLS, C-,E-, CLS and even G class with both of the newest diesel engines OM654 and OM656. I guess that if split 800 000 vehicles to all effected models and engines, it will affect ~100 000 cars by model for the cars sold for 3 years in the rest of the world... It seams to me that, the chance it's low for every single MB owner. But this is just a guess.
But i will check my coolant pump regular for leaks.
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I did not check for the E300 but our 2017 E350e did not have a serpentine belt. The coolant pump could have been gear driven but it wasn't it was electrically driven. AC compressor, steering etc. obviously cannot be combustion engine driven. Have a look at parts diagrams to be sure.
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Hi guys, after 5 months of waiting and almost forgot about this issue, i've received a letter from local dealer that i should visit workshop ASAP due to water pump leakage issue and engine soft update. The procedure will took about 4 working hours. And they have available slot for mid June... I have to wait 4 weeks... WTF...
Never mind, i would post an update. But in the meantime can someone post the official recall bulletin by Daimler? I
Never mind, i would post an update. But in the meantime can someone post the official recall bulletin by Daimler? I
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Hi guys, after 5 months of waiting and almost forgot about this issue, i've received a letter from local dealer that i should visit workshop ASAP due to water pump leakage issue and engine soft update. The procedure will took about 4 working hours. And they have available slot for mid June... I have to wait 4 weeks... WTF...
Never mind, i would post an update. But in the meantime can someone post the official recall bulletin by Daimler? I
Never mind, i would post an update. But in the meantime can someone post the official recall bulletin by Daimler? I
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Check www.nhtsa.gov/recalls for info.
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My car is in the dealers today for its service and they have told me that they will be replacing the pump (great news). Luckily i have taken it to MB for a service (its 4 years old so don't need to), and that i have a great dealer who i trust and they know their cars as MB have not contacted me at all. I do know about the issue but I am really annoyed MB haven't written to me to warn me etc...
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My car is in the dealers today for its service and they have told me that they will be replacing the pump (great news). Luckily i have taken it to MB for a service (its 4 years old so don't need to), and that i have a great dealer who i trust and they know their cars as MB have not contacted me at all. I do know about the issue but I am really annoyed MB haven't written to me to warn me etc...
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Well, my car is 2022 and had just over 1000km and I got red coolant light.
Car was taken to the dealer, I was told that they had to plug in only the pump. Only for me to find out that they have actually replaced the pump without telling me. Strange!
Car was taken to the dealer, I was told that they had to plug in only the pump. Only for me to find out that they have actually replaced the pump without telling me. Strange!
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You are correct - when i collected the car it was only the control valve and not the pump. Do you know what the software update is about for this pump?
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