New S213 with 6000km and cupping tires already
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New S213 with 6000km and cupping tires already
Since around 1000km….actually even earlier tires started making really weird whistling noise especially the one at the driver side.
Speed doesn’t matter really as noise starts as low as 20km/h. Considering I have Acoustic Package, noise is just horrendous.
Finally, I was able to get the car to the service, yesterday. Mechanic said that suspension is fine and they can’t hear anything. So I asked to go with the Service Master for a ride. He said that it is normal to hear such a sound from the tires even when one drives 20km/h!!!! No comment on that. So I left perplexed!
Today, I went to my local tire shop who have been doing my tires for last 12 years! I asked them to check front left tire!!!
Guy jacked up the driver side then he slid his hand of the tire and said that he can’t do anything with it as the tire is cupped.
Worst is front left, then front right and both rear tires are all scalloped! After only 6000km on the clock!
I called the dealer and logged a complain. Either tires are rubbish or perhaps something is wrong with the suspension!!! I hope Mercedes would agree to replace the tires.
Car came with Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 3 245/45/18 100. Guy at Tire shop said that those are one of the worst together with Dunlop. He recommended Continental, Pirelli or Michelin.
I will update you once I get this sorted!
Speed doesn’t matter really as noise starts as low as 20km/h. Considering I have Acoustic Package, noise is just horrendous.
Finally, I was able to get the car to the service, yesterday. Mechanic said that suspension is fine and they can’t hear anything. So I asked to go with the Service Master for a ride. He said that it is normal to hear such a sound from the tires even when one drives 20km/h!!!! No comment on that. So I left perplexed!
Today, I went to my local tire shop who have been doing my tires for last 12 years! I asked them to check front left tire!!!
Guy jacked up the driver side then he slid his hand of the tire and said that he can’t do anything with it as the tire is cupped.Worst is front left, then front right and both rear tires are all scalloped! After only 6000km on the clock!
I called the dealer and logged a complain. Either tires are rubbish or perhaps something is wrong with the suspension!!! I hope Mercedes would agree to replace the tires.
Car came with Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 3 245/45/18 100. Guy at Tire shop said that those are one of the worst together with Dunlop. He recommended Continental, Pirelli or Michelin.
I will update you once I get this sorted!
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What is your tire pressure set at? Does your suspension bounce more than it should? I had a BMW that ate front tires and the dealer was never able to find the problem. Hopefully, your problem is just bad tires. Good luck.
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Regarding the Air Matic, I believe that it bounces a bit too much. I had Q7 with pneumatic suspension which bounces less however those are completely different cars.
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I will buy a new set of tires. Michelin or Pirelli not sure yet.
Dealer told me that they would need to send the faulty tires to the manufacturer to asses them. Whole process takes 2 weeks. Anyway I wouldn’t put those tires back on my car. So if the manufacturer considers the tires as faulty then I will ask for a set of winter tires. If not then I will let the dealer to keep the tires. I just don’t want to stay two weeks without a car this is all.
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Thanks for the tip!
I will buy a new set of tires. Michelin or Pirelli not sure yet.
Dealer told me that they would need to send the faulty tires to the manufacturer to asses them. Whole process takes 2 weeks. Anyway I wouldn’t put those tires back on my car. So if the manufacturer considers the tires as faulty then I will ask for a set of winter tires. If not then I will let the dealer to keep the tires. I just don’t want to stay two weeks without a car this is all.
I will buy a new set of tires. Michelin or Pirelli not sure yet.
Dealer told me that they would need to send the faulty tires to the manufacturer to asses them. Whole process takes 2 weeks. Anyway I wouldn’t put those tires back on my car. So if the manufacturer considers the tires as faulty then I will ask for a set of winter tires. If not then I will let the dealer to keep the tires. I just don’t want to stay two weeks without a car this is all.
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cannot go wrong with either michelin or pirelli, both touring versions are better than the oem goodyear F1 performance all season. Might be a good idea to check the alignment after putting the new tires on, it will eliminate another possibility if the cupping comes back.
My Goodyear F1 are summer tires, not all season which is even more weird.
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Got my tires changed, today.
Put Michelin Primacy 4, 245/45/18!!!
Unfortunately, “lovely” noise didn’t go away. Arranged another appointment for Monday. Dealer has no excuses, now. Last time tires were blamed for being noisy.
I had to buy new set of the tires myself. Dealer told me that even if I want to send Goodyear set to the manufacturer for sure blame will be put on my driving. No comment on that!
I will keep you posted!
Put Michelin Primacy 4, 245/45/18!!!
Unfortunately, “lovely” noise didn’t go away. Arranged another appointment for Monday. Dealer has no excuses, now. Last time tires were blamed for being noisy.
I had to buy new set of the tires myself. Dealer told me that even if I want to send Goodyear set to the manufacturer for sure blame will be put on my driving. No comment on that!
I will keep you posted!
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Got my tires changed, today.
Put Michelin Primacy 4, 245/45/18!!!
Unfortunately, “lovely” noise didn’t go away. Arranged another appointment for Monday. Dealer has no excuses, now. Last time tires were blamed for being noisy.
I had to buy new set of the tires myself. Dealer told me that even if I want to send Goodyear set to the manufacturer for sure blame will be put on my driving. No comment on that!
I will keep you posted!
Put Michelin Primacy 4, 245/45/18!!!
Unfortunately, “lovely” noise didn’t go away. Arranged another appointment for Monday. Dealer has no excuses, now. Last time tires were blamed for being noisy.
I had to buy new set of the tires myself. Dealer told me that even if I want to send Goodyear set to the manufacturer for sure blame will be put on my driving. No comment on that!
I will keep you posted!
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Noise is heard even at 20km/h. It doesn’t matter if you accelerate or just rolling. Actually after the tires change, noise is even louder! Or this is just my feeling.
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So you know the whistling is not from the tires and the seals, if there is no noise when car is park, it might be something in the wheel bearings or brakes. Unfortunately, it is not loud enough for Mercedes to take action,
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It is loud, service master could hear it last time and blamed it on the tires. Noise didn’t go away so this time, he would need to look further.
Anyway I will update once I have more information.
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The cupped tires might be a symptom of bad wheel bearing or damaged suspension parts. If the problem is not found, the same cupping will happen to the new tires.
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I did ask them what they will do if same thing happens as I won’t keep buying new set of tires every few thousands kilometres.
Last time, I was told that suspension is fine and no issues with the bearings. Noise was blamed on the tires. This time they won’t have such excuse. Once they find the reason, I will ask for refund of two sets of tires. Or just full set of winter tires with wheels.
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I do hope dealer finds the issue. I had to pay for the new tires and changing them.
I did ask them what they will do if same thing happens as I won’t keep buying new set of tires every few thousands kilometres.
Last time, I was told that suspension is fine and no issues with the bearings. Noise was blamed on the tires. This time they won’t have such excuse. Once they find the reason, I will ask for refund of two sets of tires. Or just full set of winter tires with wheels.
I did ask them what they will do if same thing happens as I won’t keep buying new set of tires every few thousands kilometres.
Last time, I was told that suspension is fine and no issues with the bearings. Noise was blamed on the tires. This time they won’t have such excuse. Once they find the reason, I will ask for refund of two sets of tires. Or just full set of winter tires with wheels.
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Small update.
Yesterday, I had another test drive with the service master. This time he heard the noise although it was there last time but he blamed it on the tires. Left the car with them.
Mechanic couldn’t locate where the noise is coming from. I was told that they will have another drive with microphones installed on different places. Bearing seems fine at least this is what I was told. Saga continues!!!!
Yesterday, I had another test drive with the service master. This time he heard the noise although it was there last time but he blamed it on the tires. Left the car with them.
Mechanic couldn’t locate where the noise is coming from. I was told that they will have another drive with microphones installed on different places. Bearing seems fine at least this is what I was told. Saga continues!!!!
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Quick update!
Dealer couldn’t find the reason for the noise. Dealer said that they will contact Mercedes central in Germany. Meanwhile they will try to get to test drive same car.
I will give it back in September as I can’t be left without a car.
Dealer couldn’t find the reason for the noise. Dealer said that they will contact Mercedes central in Germany. Meanwhile they will try to get to test drive same car.
I will give it back in September as I can’t be left without a car.
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I took my car to a different dealer. This time, they did listen what I had to say.
few issues:
1. AirMatic kept calibrating itself and few kilometres although I drive in town max 70km/h - issue resolved by changing the control unit. I was told that old one was living a life on its on.
I am certain that this fault has caused my first set of tires to get cupped! I will file a complain to MB.
2. Going over bumps even small ones causes quite odd rear suspension sound. Like it is hitting the top caps, not sure if this is how are called. Dealer said they fix it only for me to drive home and actually hear even worse squeaking sound.
3. Noise from front driver sound as described earlier.
Mechanic told the service man that this is from tires. I was told same already 3 times from different dealer. Luckily, they used their common sense and chained all wheels from different car and got same result. Annoying sound from 20km/h which becomes louder when driving at 130km/h. They couldn’t locate it. However have something in their mind that might cause the sound.
quote: “ Engine might not be properly seated and gives vibrations to the body. Rear suspension issues.”
Comment about engine worried me to be fair.
Giving car back on 14.11 and will update this tread once I have more information.
few issues:
1. AirMatic kept calibrating itself and few kilometres although I drive in town max 70km/h - issue resolved by changing the control unit. I was told that old one was living a life on its on.
I am certain that this fault has caused my first set of tires to get cupped! I will file a complain to MB.
2. Going over bumps even small ones causes quite odd rear suspension sound. Like it is hitting the top caps, not sure if this is how are called. Dealer said they fix it only for me to drive home and actually hear even worse squeaking sound.
3. Noise from front driver sound as described earlier.
Mechanic told the service man that this is from tires. I was told same already 3 times from different dealer. Luckily, they used their common sense and chained all wheels from different car and got same result. Annoying sound from 20km/h which becomes louder when driving at 130km/h. They couldn’t locate it. However have something in their mind that might cause the sound.
quote: “ Engine might not be properly seated and gives vibrations to the body. Rear suspension issues.”
Comment about engine worried me to be fair.
Giving car back on 14.11 and will update this tread once I have more information.
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Tyo, sounds like your rear suspension is bottoming out and your air matic is eating up your tires. Hopefully the new control unit will fix the tire problem but there might be a leaking in your rear air suspension.
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Thank you, G man!
Indeed rear suspension is bottoming out. While at dealer, they have checked the AirMatic and they didn’t notice any issues with shock absorbers or damaged parts.
I do have more confidence in them and hopefully soon all will be fixed!
Indeed rear suspension is bottoming out. While at dealer, they have checked the AirMatic and they didn’t notice any issues with shock absorbers or damaged parts.
I do have more confidence in them and hopefully soon all will be fixed!
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I had a 2014 CLS550 which the front air suspension kept bottoming out. I had two dealers looked at it and they found nothing. I ended up trading in the car for a jaguar with conventional suspension.
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Small update.
Yesterday, I had another test drive with the service master. This time he heard the noise although it was there last time but he blamed it on the tires. Left the car with them.
Mechanic couldn’t locate where the noise is coming from. I was told that they will have another drive with microphones installed on different places. Bearing seems fine at least this is what I was told. Saga continues!!!!
Yesterday, I had another test drive with the service master. This time he heard the noise although it was there last time but he blamed it on the tires. Left the car with them.
Mechanic couldn’t locate where the noise is coming from. I was told that they will have another drive with microphones installed on different places. Bearing seems fine at least this is what I was told. Saga continues!!!!
