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As I've posted previously, my 2022 All-Terrain was built in April and released for shipment in early fall. It has still not made it onto a boat.
Is anyone else waiting on a 2022 delivery?
Has anyone else ever waited this long for his/her Mercedes? (It was ordered in January).
I suspect your car will be delivered as 2023 model year car. I doubt there are any more 2022 cars coming in, this late into the new model year.
A quick answer to your "VIN change" question would be Yes. Porsche has been open to VIN changes throughout the decades. Porsche in 1994 - 1995 model years,,, the 968 coupe comes to mind. The 1994 968 sales were slow so..... Abracadabra 100 units plus of MY94 968 parked at the factory storage lot became MY95 968 Coupes. .. An example of "It's been done".
Last edited by M. Schneider; 12-18-2022 at 08:38 PM.
We have one of those, too...5.5 years old...always has to be hunting, working, or playing...thankfully she has always fallen asleep instantly in the car, whether a 5 minute trip or 5 hours. And also an older guy...
Would like to see photos of your crate in the wagon!
Lovely occupants in your wagon ! Here’s a picture of the crate in my All-Terrain and a picture of the hyperactive occupant of the said crate !
Picked up our build today…5 hour process, and will post on that (and some unexpected charges) when I am not so exhausted, and post some pics.
I am now thinking more about the cargo liner options, and asked the canvasback people a couple of questions.
The Canvasback liner (floor and back of rear seats and flap that attaches to cover the rear seat tops and headrests) or the WeatherTek Cargo liner (floor only) both seem reasonable.
Our main use will be driving to the Oregon coast house with our dogs and the back filled. We put the rear seats down and fill the rear of the cargo area with our…cargo…and our three dogs lie on blankets behind us on the lowered rear seats. So we need protection for the rear seats and headrests when they are down…that is where the dogs lie. In that sense, the Canvasback might be better. If WeatherTek had an additional piece that attached to their cargo liner, that would be nice.
If we were just putting dirty dogs in the far back after a walk with the rear seats up, the WeatherTek cargo floor liner would be enough.
My concerns about the Canvasback are whether the Velcro that teaches to the carpet floor or rear seat backs might cause pulling/piling of the carpet if repeatedly installed (I asked them and they said yes, the carpets might show some fuzzing if done repeatedly), and whether the side panels, should they be added, might cause velcro backing residual adhesive behind should they be removed later (waiting for their answer).
I know, like everything else, I am probably overthinking this.
if I could design my own, for how WE use it, I might choose something like the WeatherTek cargo mat for the main cargo area when the rear seats are up (for cargo and also for dogs when the rear seats are up), and an additional “custom fitted” WeatherTek piece (or cargo “flaps) that you could add to that to protect the backs of the rear seats, seat tops, and headrests when the rear seats are down.
My concerns about the Canvasback are whether the Velcro that teaches to the carpet floor or rear seat backs might cause pulling/piling of the carpet if repeatedly installed (I asked them and they said yes, the carpets might show some fuzzing if done repeatedly), and whether the side panels, should they be added, might cause velcro backing residual adhesive behind should they be removed later (waiting for their answer).
In my experience with an X5, yes. The Velcro on the liner would not stick to the BMW’s carpet, so the Velcro adhesive strips were used. After three years what they left behind was a mess.
I’ve found that all I really need to protect is the floor; dog hair on the side panels isn’t a big deal.
Here’s a picture of the crate in my All-Terrain and a picture of the hyperactive occupant…
Cute pup! That level of safety must be very comforting. I had a Travall Guard…also sourced from Europe and with perfect fit…for the above referenced X5 and was very happy with it, but my wife didn’t like looking through it in the rear view.
The boat carrying my wagon arrived in Baltimore on the 18th. Dealer software information hasn't caught up yet??? I'm thinking two days to offload and then the shipping dance begins. It will come by truck to my dealer. I'm not holding up much hope for delivery before year end. But these days you never know. At least it's on the ground in the USA!
“Because of the shortage of cars a lot of crazy things have been going on when inventory becomes available. Things like admin charges for those willing to pay and swaps between dealers to satisfy demand for dealers who have a clientele that are willing and able to pay above MSRP. I don't think its possible that an April build for a MY '22 is still in the supply chain.”
That would be really ****ty but unfortunately possible. I agree with the suggestion to escalate and inquire of MBNA if possible.
Well, I tried calling MBNA, and after finally getting a human, I was told there is nothing they can do; I must go through the dealer. They wouldn't even take the VIN #.
Dealer says they're calling daily, but no one has any information on the car.
I guess Mercedes is forcing me to Audi.
Cute pup! That level of safety must be very comforting. I had a Travall Guard…also sourced from Europe and with perfect fit…for the above referenced X5 and was very happy with it, but my wife didn’t like looking through it in the rear view.
Yeah, the rear view is a bit compromised in mine too, but I’ve learned to work around it.
I see that you have the 20” wheel option. Love that and might wait for a set to come up for sale in the marketplace. There seems to be an E63 wagon forged wheel set available in the marketplace now, but not sure if they would fit the E450 wagon, since they are slightly wider wheels (than the 20” option of the E450) with a different offset.
^ Here are the specs...not sure the E63 wheels will look right...with the plastic arches, the AT is wider in the rear, whereas the E63's unique front fenders are wider than the AT's:
AT: 20 x 8.5 ET 40 front, 20 x 9.5 ET 50 rear
E63: 20 x 9.5 ET 25 front, 20 x 10.0 ET 55 rear
Ok, so here are the photos of our car we picked up yesterday…Selenite Grey, black interior.
Very happy with the look of the car, and even with the runflats I have to say that the car rides SO MUCH smoother, in comfort mode, than our 2001 wagon (and of course my 2013 E350 coupe with its sports suspension and low profile tires) on these horrendous Seattle streets.
I just noticed that the extended warranty we purchased was through Principal Auto Care. I thought it a little unusual that I had only heard of 7 year/ 75K or 100K through the Mercedes Extended Warranty, and these options went up to 8 year/80K (at about $6000) which we chose, and 8 year/100K at about $7000 which we did not. I am not sure what the standard 7 year/75K Mercedes plan costs, since the $6000 we paid seemed high to me, though I guess this is considered a luxury car???
Anyone else know the pricing with the extended warranty through Mercedes? And how common it is for Mercedes to offer plans through what appear to be a non-Mercedes entity?
I Would imagine this is an additional profit source for the dealer.
In my next post I will discuss the various ways the dealer seemingly padded my bill, just to relieve reader fatigue!
Ok, so here are the photos of our car we picked up yesterday…Selenite Grey, black interior.
Very happy with the look of the car, and even with the runflats I have to say that the car rides SO MUCH smoother, in comfort mode, than our 2001 wagon (and of course my 2013 E350 coupe with its sports suspension and low profile tires) on these horrendous Seattle streets.
I just noticed that the extended warranty we purchased was through Principal Auto Care. I thought it a little unusual that I had only heard of 7 year/ 75K or 100K through the Mercedes Extended Warranty, and these options went up to 8 year/80K (at about $6000) which we chose, and 8 year/100K at about $7000 which we did not. I am not sure what the standard 7 year/75K Mercedes plan costs, since the $6000 we paid seemed high to me, though I guess this is considered a luxury car???
Anyone else know the pricing with the extended warranty through Mercedes? And how common it is for Mercedes to offer plans through what appear to be a non-Mercedes entity?
I Would imagine this is an additional profit source for the dealer.
In my next post I will discuss the various ways the dealer seemingly padded my bill, just to relieve reader fatigue!
Nice looking ride. I've heard the ride is very comfortable even with run flats. Good luck with it. Many miles and smiles. Enjoy it in good health. Happy motoring!
^ Here are the specs...not sure the E63 wheels will look right...with the plastic arches, the AT is wider in the rear, whereas the E63's unique front fenders are wider than the AT's:
AT: 20 x 8.5 ET 40 front, 20 x 9.5 ET 50 rear
E63: 20 x 9.5 ET 25 front, 20 x 10.0 ET 55 rear
Thanks for the specs. Yeah, the E63 wheels in the front are 1” wider than the E450 20s, while having a smaller offset. Since a smaller offset pushes the wheel outward, it will look unnatural in the E450, and may not even fit cleanly within the wheel arches in the front.
When I bought my E450, I did not realize that the 20” wheel option was a staggered set, and had wider tires in the rear. If I had known that, I would have sprung for the 20s, in lieu of my 19s.
Thank you!
You know, I love the car already and I only got to ride in it while my wife drove…8 more weeks with the foot!
Anyone else here get the Mercedes Extended Warranty or knowledgeable about these third party warranties that Mercedes dealers exclusively deal with instead? And Pricing with these cars?
I notice the MB site does not mention pricing.
RMGRENLY -
Nice order your '23 E450 A/T Selenite Grey Metallic w/ 19" AMG 5 spoke alloys. . (Followed suit yet w/Beige interior) ... Anyway, I've enquired regarding the published MBUSA extended warranty, yet the silence is deafening...
I'm barely interested as it is, so for any aftermarket 3-party warranty, I'd have zero interest.. No word on the MBUSA 7 yr $. ?
The Mercedes MBUSA Extended Limited Warranty offers are:
1 year @ 75K miles or @100K miles .. $ - ?
2 years @ 75K miles or @100K miles .. $ - ?
and lastly
3 years @ 75K miles or @100K miles .. $ - ?
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RMGRENLY -
NIce order your '23 E450 A/T Selenite Grey Metallic w/ 19" AMG 5 spoke alloys. . (Followed suit yet w/Beige NAPA) ... Anyway, I've enquired regarding the published MBUSA extended warranty, yet the silence is deafening..
I'm barely interested as it is, so for any aftermarket 3-party warranty, I'd have zero interest.. No word on the MBUSA 7 yr $. ?
I anxiously await any info you discover!
I am also awaiting further clarification from my dealer’s finance dude who went over all this stuff with me (even though we were paying cash), and having the service department get back to me on how they deal with this…no way no how at those prices I going to deal with a third party insurance company to get reimbursed. She assured me they deal with them directly, but I want to be sure. And also that the 48 volt battery is not excluded (as I know the small battery is)…it isn’t excluded for hybrid electric vehicles, other than gradual expected loss of capacity over time, I think, but what about mild hybrids? I remember some discussion of this on these boards but can’t locate it today.
We have certainly racked up some big bills over the years for my Mercedes and my BMW before that when the warranties had expired…how about $5000+ for some emergency parking brake and cable that was making noise in my E350 coupe? So I don’t mind paying for the extended warranties at least with these “expensive to repair” cars that we tend to keep for 10 years (or 21 years with our current wagon…sounds bizarre even to me, but my wife didn’t want to part with it!). I just don’t want to get less coverage or more difficult to deal with coverage so I can be a greater profit center for my dealer!
RMGRENLY -
Nice order your '23 E450 A/T Selenite Grey Metallic w/ 19" AMG 5 spoke alloys. . (Followed suit yet w/Beige interior) ... Anyway, I've enquired regarding the published MBUSA extended warranty, yet the silence is deafening...
I'm barely interested as it is, so for any aftermarket 3-party warranty, I'd have zero interest.. No word on the MBUSA 7 yr $. ?
The Mercedes MBUSA Extended Limited Warranty offers are:
1 year @ 75K miles or @100K miles .. $ - ?
2 years @ 75K miles or @100K miles .. $ - ?
and lastly
3 years @ 75K miles or @100K miles .. $ - ?
This lifelong MB owner also bought a new Selenite Grey AT wagon and too has zero interest in any third party warranty.
It is my understanding the MBUSA plans can be shopped around to get the best price before the new car warranty expires.
There are other threads which mention dealers offering competitive pricing. MBUSA should be suggested retail.
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Ok, so here are the photos of our car we picked up yesterday…Selenite Grey, black interior.
Very happy with the look of the car, and even with the runflats I have to say that the car rides SO MUCH smoother, in comfort mode, than our 2001 wagon (and of course my 2013 E350 coupe with its sports suspension and low profile tires) on these horrendous Seattle streets.
Almost bought last year of Buick TourX at steep discount but wife wanted taller SUV so bought 2020 CRV Hybrid instead for more $$$. Family visiting NM from East Coast for the Holidays and wife has been struggling getting out of rear seat. Yesterday put Taller Son in the back and wife struggled a bit less with egress from front passenger AMG Wagon seat. After buying her a Diamond Ring for Christmas she then only complained about the brutal acceleration and noise in S+...lol
I might look for a leftover A/T in 2024, to add to my collection, if I can score a deal like a did on that TourX. Might be better than E63s when I park it off-road in SC and Florida when go hunting and fishing. I really don't need a 911 4S manual?
I would consider a genuine MBUSA warranty but stay away from a third party. @rmgrenley Did your selling dealer offer you the choice?
They did not.
I am waiting for call back from “finance” guy to answer some questions about the extended warranty I purchased. Word that I got from one of the service managers was that they offer this coverage exclusively for some time now as the coverage is better than the MB coverage. I am sure it is a profit center for them, whether of not it is better coverage. But I am waiting to hear directly from the finance dept so I can get more information and more documentation.
They did not.
I am waiting for call back from “finance” guy to answer some questions about the extended warranty I purchased. Word that I got from one of the service managers was that they offer this coverage exclusively for some time now as the coverage is better than the MB coverage. I am sure it is a profit center for them, whether of not it is better coverage. But I am waiting to hear directly from the finance dept so I can get more information and more documentation.
If at all possible, I would stick to the genuine MB warranty, than a 3rd party warranty. In fact, I would not go with a 3rd party extended warranty at all, as a personal policy. For all you know, the ability to get relief via such a warranty is based on that 3rd party still being around, years from today…..and they may very well not be !
And I would wait to add the MB extended warranty, for a few years, since you can always add the MB extended warranty, anytime before the original factory warranty expires. Why pay for it right away ? In another 3 years, you can shop around and get the MB extended warranty of your choice, for a better price.
These warranties are huge profit centers for the dealers. The after market may be even more so than MBUSA's hence their push at the time of sale.
Like @Roweraay , I've always waited to shop around for an MBUSA product then decide.
After, I've always enjoyed the peace of mind I can take my car to any MBUSA dealer with their warranty, sign and drive. @rmgrenley Not so sure if the market maker could present hassles. You might want to Google reviews of what they sold you before you talk your finance guy.
Good luck and keep us posted
12-18-2022, 03:09 PM
