rmgrenley

Exactmats black X edition

Since it was rolled up, it takes a little while for it to relax into its flat shape. The light reflection is making it look grey or even clear, but it is indeed black.

rmgrenley

On our E450 AT, I am unsure what a couple of icons mean that are on the instrument panel.
One Is the “P” in the blue square over to the bottom left (between the “dials”). It seems to stay on all the time, though we have only driven around town so far.
I thought it was the Parking Assist…but would it stay on all the time? Maybe turning off only when going at higher speed?

the other is the yellow “Ready” light, at the bottom right between the dials. Again, it stays on all the time…Ready for what?

Can’t find these in the 450+ page manual.
thanks

bishop64

For 2022 S213 E-Class Estate,
that ''P'' refers to Active Parking Assist and the READY refers to status of the Plug-in Hybrid (its being yellow/amber might mean it is not activated).
(https://www.mercedes-benz.co.uk/pass...rument-display)

cetialpha5

It's only good in certain circumstances. For instance if you have a lease, it's worth it because they roll the price of the maintenance package into the MSRP so it only costs you the inverse of the percentage of MSRP at the end even though you may use up the entire value of the maintenance package. Also if the car is due for spark plugs or transmission service, it's included in the maintenance package, but you have to pay for the separately if you're just doing Service B. Otherwise you're right, it's not really worth it for regular ownership for the first few services.

rmgrenley

1. So is the Parktronic (as shown by the “blue P”) always on and looking for a parking space unless you go into the menu and deactivate it?
2. I was not aware that the E450 All Terrain is a “Plug in Hybrid”…therefore why would the amber Ready signal always be on in the instrument cluster?

E430_4MATIC

It's telling you the car is on, even if the ICE is off. Ready to drive opposed to switched off.
My READY light has always shown green. Could amber indicate there's a problem?

rmgrenley

My bad. The Ready light is green.
So, does that mean the Ready light stays on the whole time your car is running, to remind you that your car is running?

And, does that blue P stay on until you go faster than 22 mph or whatever, as it tells you that the Parktronic is on, all the time at slower speeds, as opposed to being turned off in the menu?

pdeacon

Does anyone know if there is a way to split the screen so that you can show navigation and radio at the same time? I know you could do it on some older models. Pre MBUX??

Lanzz

I never found one - I now use the right "circle" on the main dash (where the tachometer lives) for Nav while the infotainment screen is on radio/phone/streaming. Interested if there is a better solution.

pdeacon

Thank you for your reply. I thought of that after my post. I think I'll give that a try. Happy Motoring.

rmgrenley

Hi.
Our 2023 E450 All Terrain seems to be intermittently forgetting it setting that limits how high it opens so that it doesn't hit our open garage door above. I assume we are setting it correctly. When we open the tailgate by pulling open the outside latch, we manually stop it where we want it to stop (before it hits something), and then we hold the "stop/close" button until we hear a chime. The next time or times we open the tailgate, it stops where it has been set previously. However, we have had it "forget" that setting at least twice and hit the garage door above.

I should note that we the key with us, though we have not turned on the engine. The tailgate responds with the setting tone, and it remembers the setting, so I assumed the engine does not have to be on.
Is this correct?

When I talked to service, they said it could be a software issue and they will need a full day.
Are we setting it correctly?
Has anyone else had this issue?
Thanks.

pdeacon

I set my hatch exactly the way you did and have not had any problems with it remembering the setting. Perhaps the dealer can diagnose your issue with their scan tool. Good luck

Alan Smithee

I’ve had that randomly happen a few times. Each time it went back to working properly immediately after.

rmgrenley

The problem is that the tailgate has hit the metal cross beam of the garage door now twice, and we have no idea whether to trust it or not…which defeats the purpose of it!
Oh well, since it sounds like I am setting it correctly.

Alan Smithee

Thankfully the only repercussions for me have been a longer reach. I've also had the ambient light color forget my settings a couple of times.

Drone_S213

As a Subaru WRX and Crosstrek Alumni, too bad Mercedes could not stuff the AMG E53/GT53 Engine in the All Terrain! It might be high enough off the ground to please the Wife at Georgia Residence plus I would steal it on weekends to go hunting in SC, GA, and Florida. Would leave my gear locked up at Buddy's Garage in Augusta who still works at Nuke Plant. PhD wife is from a War Zone and doesn't embrace my hobby.


2013-2015


Just spent about $1K to replace 18" Quatrac Pro tires on her 2020 CRV AWD Hybrid unexpectedly on Wednesday. That was my Gas money for cross country trip to GA, MD, and NY! Will postpone Trek in AMG Wagon now until after I pay NM and GA Taxes next Month and weather is better. Red, Right, Returning...

The G Man

Mercedes should have add a spare tire and a spare tire compartment in the E all terrain, as the very least, as an option. The term all terrain usually means that one could go off road, I would never go off road without a spare tire.

Alan Smithee

^ No arguments here...I bought a donut spare for trips outside of a reasonable Uber ride radius from home. Overall I am very happy with my AT, but 'All Weather' would have been a better name for it. In my experience the "off road" modes are close to useless. A smidge extra ground clearance, but with the air springs fully extended there is no compliance left in the suspension, making even a tame fire road extremely uncomfortable. A Range Rover this is not. Useful for getting through a bit more snow than a standard wagon, but that's about it.

JTK44

I learned to drive in snow in Syracuse NY in the sixties while attending law school. My car was a 1966 Mustang GT convertible (yes: do not ask I wish I still had that car). Bias tires all around with studded snow on the rear. Never got stuck. Back then, snow was a daily and often twice daily occurrence. You either learned to drive in snow or waited until the spring!

My point is that the extra 1/2 inch of clearance on the AT vs. the clearance on my E450 will not make any difference driving in the snow. If the snow is over 6" the best thing to do is wait or if you are driving pull over for the plow.

Roweraay

Interestingly, going through Mercedes’ specifications, they rate the AT’s ground clearance as 5.7”, when fully loaded. The key term being “Fully Loaded”. I believe the payload of the E450 AT is around 1400lbs or so. So when the car is fully loaded down with 1400lbs, the car has a ground clearance of 5.7”. I suppose when not fully loaded, it would be at least a 1/2” more than the posted 5.7”. The 5.7” is thus a worst-case number.

Typical cars like say a Subaru Outback or a Honda Accord, has a payload of around 850lbs or so. Significantly lower than the Mercedes E-class. And their ground clearance statistics of 8+inches, are when the car’s unloaded (as far as I know).

So the posted specs from both sides are not apples-to-apples.

Alan Smithee

The AT has three suspension heights...haven't measured it, but it's more than a half inch from lowest to highest. Is it primarily for marketing? Sure. But whatever the height spread is, it does allow for another inch or two of snow on the ground before having to get a shovel out. And the same vehicle in the lowest Sport/Sport+ settings does an admirable job handling like a sport sedan when it's dry.

Alan Smithee

With air suspension, there should be no height difference when loaded/empty. The Outback/Accord have steel springs.

sycd

Funny I'm thinking the same sometimes. But then if I had another wood I'm pretty sure I would be wishing I had the black ash I bought my wagon with 50k miles and the black ash is showing how thin it is, there are a couple of small spots where it came off with wear and tear. I'm going to try fixing it by applying some wood stain with a qtip.

Roweraay

I could be wrong, but with the air suspension, once fully loaded and once the car settles down to a corresponding lower height, the air suspension would level it (the lower portions of the car, raised to the same level as the highest portion of the car that has settled down due to the weight). Not raise the entire car to the standard ride height, as if the car is unloaded. Based on this, if they state that the ground clearance is 5.7 (when fully loaded), it should sit higher when unloaded (and be leveled at that point by the air suspension). If so, then that unloaded ground clearance level (in “comfort” mode) is probably in the 6.2-6.5” range…..not enough clearance for any kind of off-roading, but certainly enough for light snow.

Yes, the Accord etc with steel springs, will not do any kind of load-leveling, and if the weight distribution within the car is not properly done, the car would settle down awkwardly.

The All-Terrain has 2” higher ground clearance (not 1/2 inch higher clearance) than the E450 wagon, and in Europe where they sell both versions, I am told there is a noticeable difference in height between the AT and the standard E450 wagon, when parked next to each other.

Roweraay

I love the brown burlwood. I am certainly not a fan of the black ash wood. Of course I am stuck with the black ash wood, for the rest of the car’s life !