bayareabimmer

Hi all,

Looking to purchase a CPO 2021 E350. I have owned a BMW 750i for the last few years, ever since the warranty began to run out it has constantly had some oil leak, part malfunction, engine issue etc.

How reliable have you found the E350 to have been?

I honestly do not like wasting my time constantly going to a dealership (regardless of warranty status) and would like to enjoy the car without headaches for a few years.

Thank you.

JTK44

First have you driven the E350? Coming from a 750i you may find the engine disappointing. As compared to your 750i, it is noisier, less powerful and not as smooth.

I would think the logical choice would be the E450 which is what I have. Previously I owned both the 740i and 740il and Audi 8L.

So far my repairs have been:

• Replace rear rotors and pads at 30,000. Clearly something was wrong as the rotors were heavily scored and the front, which should have worn out first, are in excellent shape.
• Replace rear shocks at 33,000 under original warranty. Again something wrong as 50% of my driving is highway and very little driving in NYC with potholes.
• Replace muffler at 35,000 miles covered under extended warranty. Without extended warranty cost would have been over $2400.

If you do not want to be going to the dealer suggest either Lexus or Genesis.

Just my $.02.

Roweraay

I am close to the 9K mile mark in the 2022 E450 All-terrain, and till date it has been absolutely trouble-free. Not even a whisper of a problem yet.

Lanzz

I bought a CPO 2021 E350 last September.- have put about 8,000 miles on it - so it has 25,000 miles in total. Haven't done a thing to it - rock solid reliability. This is my 4th 213 series vehicle - they are all really solid and trouble free. It is going for a Service A in a few weeks just to keep the maintenance up to date... it's a great car and I may trade for one more CPO 213 before I try out the new platform after it's out a while.

W205C43PFL

Do you mind me asking what happened to the rear shocks and muffler and what were the symptoms they were bad or symptoms you experienced?

W205C43PFL

Any particular reason you keep getting "the same" car? For example why not just keep your previous W213 cars? What was the reason for you to switch?

JTK44

Rear shocks: Every time you went over a bump the car shook. People in the back seat thought they were riding a 10 year old Ford.

Muffler: see: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...t-7-years.html Post 19

Lanzz

I love to trade cars and make deals on them - and I love the 213 series E class. I have had two sedans and two wagons. I am thinking about a 222 series S class as a next one... haven't ever had an S and don't think I want to spend the money for a 223 yet.

W205C43PFL

Thanks for updating me on what happened to the two components, sorry to hear about those issues but glad it was resolved. Hopefully both were just a defective component that was replaced and therefore you no longer have issues with it ever.

W205C43PFL

I see, most likely you will love the S-Class as well. The difference is huge compared to an E-Class actually, if you get a chance to try it.

gfmohn

[QUOTE=JTK44;8791887]Replace muffler at 35,000 miles covered under extended warranty. Without extended warranty cost would have been over $2400./QUOTE]I thought that all exhaust components for all vehicles were warrantied separately for 50,000 miles, by Federal law. No nned for an extended warrantee.

JTK44

[QUOTE=gfmohn;8795698]You may be correct, but I thought it was the catalytic converter that is covered as omissions for 8 years or 80,000 miles.

This was a flap on the exhaust: I think it has to do with the sound when you are in Sport or Sport+

see: https://www.google.com/search?q=are+...t=gws-wiz-serp

ua549

The EPA requires an 8 year, 80,000 mile replacement warranty. There are state laws that cover other parts of the exhaust system along with requirements for replacement parts.

chassis

Beware any MB four banger. The E350 uses a four banger descended from the M274 known for a list of severe, some fatal, issues. Latest version of this engine in particular is grenading cylinder heads.

Don’t own an MB four banger if you don’t want to be inconvenienced by a rough-running (in the best of cases) engine with bad genes and known current problems. Beyond warranty, a strong do not buy label is placed on any MB four banger.

Agree with an earlier post. If reliability is a high priority then Toyota and Honda will welcome you with open arms. Don’t buy an MB if reliability is a priority.

ua549

The most unreliable car I ever owned was a Toyota Crown purchased new. I owned it for 3 months of which 2 months it was being repaired.
To this day I will never knowingly purchase a Japanese product.

W205C43PFL

That is not good, what happened to Toyota reliability. I thought they have a great reputation with that? Isn't that the only good thing about them?

JTK44

I have owned two RAV4. They were bullet proof.

I guess your experience is "the exception to the rule".

W205C43PFL

maybe it was because crown is the flagship and they throw in everything which means more that can break? I don't know given the only good thing of Toyota is reliability, they can't be messing that up but I understand things happen, they did recall some four cylinder engines even on some other models if I recalled correctly from an article. They also used to have the infamous stuck accelerator causing crash.

W205C43PFL

Hmmm looks like the crown was used in many applications: (Skip to timestamp 00:48)

Roweraay

Agreed. Sample size of 1 is anecdotal at best ! All objective, published data shows the typical Toyota is a very reliable car.

JTK44

This is the 2023 Crown that replaces the Avalon.

W205C43PFL is posting about a Crown from many, many years ago.

W205C43PFL

You might had tag the wrong person but anyways I see now