Wondering how long my Turbo will last on my 2017 E300 2.0 (w213)
#76
If you change your oil often (every 3000-5000 miles) with a proper oil, it should last as long as the engine. I have a 2004 Audi TT 225 1.8T that has been chipped since about 25,000 miles. It now has over 250,000 miles with the same K04 turbo. The oil has been changed every 5000 miles or less.
I remember I had a 1987 Saab 900 with 200k miles and the turbo was still going strong!
Saab made great turbos! :-)
#77
I'll start a list of lies for you and keep track from now on:
1. Your "buddy" enabling Mirror link from engineering mode without any 3rd party hardware
2. You buying your E Class in Germany then sending it over to the USA (where the program includes shipping costs and destination fees, but for some reason you still had to pay for shipping?).
3. You living in Germany for 20 years and seeing 60% gasoline mercedes vs 40% diesel (not sure who in the world would believe that but okay).
4. You knowing a guy that works in the Stuttgart plant in Germany that makes the Mercedes E Class that you all of a sudden know.
5. Your mom/her friend having a 2.0 Gasoline engine mercedes that has driven over 300,000 miles without a single engine issue other than a door hinge (the one is my favorite).
I'll continue this list. I think it should be fun.
1. Your "buddy" enabling Mirror link from engineering mode without any 3rd party hardware
2. You buying your E Class in Germany then sending it over to the USA (where the program includes shipping costs and destination fees, but for some reason you still had to pay for shipping?).
3. You living in Germany for 20 years and seeing 60% gasoline mercedes vs 40% diesel (not sure who in the world would believe that but okay).
4. You knowing a guy that works in the Stuttgart plant in Germany that makes the Mercedes E Class that you all of a sudden know.
5. Your mom/her friend having a 2.0 Gasoline engine mercedes that has driven over 300,000 miles without a single engine issue other than a door hinge (the one is my favorite).
I'll continue this list. I think it should be fun.
- It can be done without 3rd party or any hardware. Google it and watch the videos.
- Mercedes does NOT pay for shipping to the USA unless the car is purchased in the US with EU delivery program. If a MB is purchased in Germany one has to arrange their own shipping. BTDT.
- Excluding commercial vehicles in 2021 German car sales were: gasoline 37.1%, hybrid 28.8%, EV 13.6% and diesel 20.0%. Many other stats are available from www.statista.com at a cost.
- If Massimo Here lived in Stuttgart for a number of years, he may certainly know someone who works in the Stuttgart plant.
Billysismyname certainly has no way of knowing. - I personally had a '72 MB 230 that I drove for 5 years and 200K miles. I replaced many things - glass, battery, tires, brakes/rotors, tune up items and shocks - but the head was never removed.
- My '18 E300 had the driver's door hinges replaced at the first service.
Last edited by ua549; 09-21-2024 at 07:22 PM.
#78
- It can be done without 3rd party or any hardware. Google it and watch the videos.
- Mercedes does NOT pay for shipping to the USA unless the car is purchased in the US with EU delivery program. If a MB is purchased in Germany one has to arrange their own shipping. BTDT.
- Excluding commercial vehicles in 2021 German car sales were: gasoline 37.1%, hybrid 28.8%, EV 13.6% and diesel 20.0%. Many other stats are available from www.statista.com at a cost.
- If Massimo Here lived in Stuttgart for a number of years, he may certainly know someone who works in the Stuttgart plant.
Billysismyname certainly has no way of knowing. - I personally had a '72 MB 230 that I drove for 5 years and 200K miles. I replaced many things - glass, battery, tires, brakes/rotors, tune up items and shocks - but the head was never removed.
- My '18 E300 had the driver's door hinges replaced at the first service.
I just had to tell him, lets agree to disagree! I have better things to do!
Billysismyname - 99.9% Mercedes are diesel in Germany, LOL!!!!!!!!
I don't even think he truly got this...Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience
Last edited by Massimo Here; 09-21-2024 at 07:47 PM.
#79
I'll start a list of lies for you and keep track from now on:
1. Your "buddy" enabling Mirror link from engineering mode without any 3rd party hardware
2. You buying your E Class in Germany then sending it over to the USA (where the program includes shipping costs and destination fees, but for some reason you still had to pay for shipping?).
3. You living in Germany for 20 years and seeing 60% gasoline mercedes vs 40% diesel (not sure who in the world would believe that but okay).
4. You knowing a guy that works in the Stuttgart plant in Germany that makes the Mercedes E Class that you all of a sudden know.
5. Your mom/her friend having a 2.0 Gasoline engine mercedes that has driven over 300,000 miles without a single engine issue other than a door hinge (the one is my favorite).
I'll continue this list. I think it should be fun.
- It can be done without 3rd party or any hardware. Google it and watch the videos.
- Mercedes does NOT pay for shipping to the USA unless the car is purchased in the US with EU delivery program. If a MB is purchased in Germany one has to arrange their own shipping. BTDT.
- Excluding commercial vehicles in 2021 German car sales were: gasoline 37.1%, hybrid 28.8%, EV 13.6% and diesel 20.0%. Many other stats are available from www.statista.com at a cost.
- If Massimo Here lived in Stuttgart for a number of years, he may certainly know someone who works in the Stuttgart plant.
Billysismyname certainly has no way of knowing. - I personally had a '72 MB 230 that I drove for 5 years and 200K miles. I replaced many things - glass, battery, tires, brakes/rotors, tune up items and shocks - but the head was never removed.
- My '18 E300 had the driver's door hinges replaced at the first service.
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2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
FWIW, I had a 2008 Infiniti G35x with its 3.5 liter engine. The engine and transmission were actually quite good. Had some Blackstone Labs analysis done on both the engine and transmission, and they always came back with excellent results. Paint quality sucked, as well as some of the interior material. Body integrity was a little questionable as I had water intrusion that eventually caused all sorts of phantom malfunctions. Interestingly enough, once I found water pooled in the floorboard under the carpet, my insurance company totaled the car as flood damaged and paid me about twice what I had planned to sell it for.
Of course, that little story has very little, if not nothing, to do with this thread.
Of course, that little story has very little, if not nothing, to do with this thread.
#82
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I like your sense of humour though
FWIW, I had a 2008 Infiniti G35x with its 3.5 liter engine. The engine and transmission were actually quite good. Had some Blackstone Labs analysis done on both the engine and transmission, and they always came back with excellent results. Paint quality sucked, as well as some of the interior material. Body integrity was a little questionable as I had water intrusion that eventually caused all sorts of phantom malfunctions. Interestingly enough, once I found water pooled in the floorboard under the carpet, my insurance company totaled the car as flood damaged and paid me about twice what I had planned to sell it for.
Of course, that little story has very little, if not nothing, to do with this thread.
Of course, that little story has very little, if not nothing, to do with this thread.
#83
Here's something funny, 99.9% of all the Mercedes in Germany are diesel lol
according to Billysismyname
* I can think of 4 friends off the top of my head that drive w213 in Germany, and all have gas engines!
Billysismyname, lets educate you some, can you read charts!?
according to Billysismyname
* I can think of 4 friends off the top of my head that drive w213 in Germany, and all have gas engines!
Billysismyname, lets educate you some, can you read charts!?
Last edited by Massimo Here; 09-21-2024 at 10:27 PM.
#84
- It can be done without 3rd party or any hardware. Google it and watch the videos.
- Mercedes does NOT pay for shipping to the USA unless the car is purchased in the US with EU delivery program. If a MB is purchased in Germany one has to arrange their own shipping. BTDT.
- Excluding commercial vehicles in 2021 German car sales were: gasoline 37.1%, hybrid 28.8%, EV 13.6% and diesel 20.0%. Many other stats are available from www.statista.com at a cost.
- If Massimo Here lived in Stuttgart for a number of years, he may certainly know someone who works in the Stuttgart plant.
Billysismyname certainly has no way of knowing. - I personally had a '72 MB 230 that I drove for 5 years and 200K miles. I replaced many things - glass, battery, tires, brakes/rotors, tune up items and shocks - but the head was never removed.
- My '18 E300 had the driver's door hinges replaced at the first service.
2. Mercedes DOES pay for shipping and waives the destination fee if you go through their program which I believe is now no longer available as of 2020/2021. Massimo stated that he did not have to change anything over like his headlights, taillights, dashboard etc. So he definitely went through the MB program. Again, probably lying because he said he only had to pay for shipping.
3. There are gasoline cars in Germany. I know more people who drive Gas Porsches, AMG's, S line Audi's etc than people who drive diesels. I was talking about the W213 E Class drivers that are almost all diesels. You won't find many gas powered W213 E Classes there unless they are AMG (I was just in Europe for 5 months. Didn't see one Gas powered E Class in the entire country).
4. I don't know. And I would believe him, IF he didn't sound like he makes sh*it up as he goes. If you look through his posts he always has someone he knows or his moms friend who does this that that etc. Just like the mirror link friend that 100% had to use Xentry to get that to work.
5. I had a 2000 E320 wagon as a first car that went up to half a million miles. Back when engines were robust and could handle such milage. I was solely talking about the 2.0L M274 Engine that he said has 300,000 miles without a single engine problem. I could bet my left kidney that isn't true. First thing is first, the PCV crankcase ventalation valve 10000% breaks on every M274 engine within the first 100,000-150,000 miles. So that's 100% a lie.
6. That's a great story.
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#85
Turbo
How long will my Turbo last on my 2017 E300 2.0 (w213)??
If if never step on it hard doesn't that mean it will spin less or not as fast making it last longer, and I never drive it past 70 MPH.
Love if I never changed this turbo and it last me for 300k miles!
Miss my 2012 E350 (w212) with 302 Horse power and no turbo.
Not sure why Benz went with this small turbo engine. Less horse power and not that much better on gas!
If if never step on it hard doesn't that mean it will spin less or not as fast making it last longer, and I never drive it past 70 MPH.
Love if I never changed this turbo and it last me for 300k miles!
Miss my 2012 E350 (w212) with 302 Horse power and no turbo.
Not sure why Benz went with this small turbo engine. Less horse power and not that much better on gas!
#87
there are various ones on the market I bought a couple of bottles of additive from Ali express unfortunately the 200ml bottle I have here is all in Chinese but used the first one on my c200 in a full tank and within a couple of weeks found I had a little more get up and go but more importantly my MPG figures on a run went from around 38mpg to 50 plus mpgso I am impressed I went on the Ali express site and typed in turbo carbon cleaner in tank additive cost was approx £10 for the two worth a punt especially on a high mileage turbo engine hope this helps
ps if i knew how to post pictures i would post a picture of the bottle i have
ps if i knew how to post pictures i would post a picture of the bottle i have
Last edited by Steve thomson; 09-22-2024 at 01:27 AM.
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@Steve thomson punctuation is your friend. But more importantly, it's our friend.
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#90
Found this on Reddit, just what my friend said in Germany that works at Mercedes about the piston failure:
I was talking to several service advisors from different dealerships, I have a 2018 C300 with the M274 and my car has been phenomenal. No issues whatsoever and I just hit 75K..
The shop foreman discuss the issue with me showed me several pictures of different M274 engines that were taken apart. And every time a customer would come in with the piston crack issue they would ask the customer if they are using 87 gas low-grade and they wouldn’t admit it. But upon there was so much deposit buildup from bad quality..
He said that everyone with the piston issue has been using low quality gas putting regular instead instead of premium. He said he often saw with people that traveled from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and they would fill up with regular gas…
Again have to ask yourself, why mostly only in the USA!?! (Bad gas!) and even using 91 octane at places like Walmart is like using 87 octane, don't go to cheap gas stations, always look for chevron or shell on that level.
Germany's w213 gas engines are not seeing this piston problem! why? answer above :-)
I was talking to several service advisors from different dealerships, I have a 2018 C300 with the M274 and my car has been phenomenal. No issues whatsoever and I just hit 75K..
The shop foreman discuss the issue with me showed me several pictures of different M274 engines that were taken apart. And every time a customer would come in with the piston crack issue they would ask the customer if they are using 87 gas low-grade and they wouldn’t admit it. But upon there was so much deposit buildup from bad quality..
He said that everyone with the piston issue has been using low quality gas putting regular instead instead of premium. He said he often saw with people that traveled from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and they would fill up with regular gas…
Again have to ask yourself, why mostly only in the USA!?! (Bad gas!) and even using 91 octane at places like Walmart is like using 87 octane, don't go to cheap gas stations, always look for chevron or shell on that level.
Germany's w213 gas engines are not seeing this piston problem! why? answer above :-)
Last edited by Massimo Here; 09-22-2024 at 09:11 AM.
#91
"Yes, 98 octane gas is available in Germany, and it's called "Super Plus E5". It's available at most gas stations, and is offered by major suppliers like Shell and Aral. Shell V-Power and Aral Ultimate are two examples of 100 RON gasoline that are also available at almost every fuel station."
Since you seem to know it all (like you accused Massimo of) I won't explain the different calculation for octane rating between the EU and US. Let's keep it simple and say that EU 98 = US 93.
#92
A quick Google search says you are wrong (again).
"Yes, 98 octane gas is available in Germany, and it's called "Super Plus E5". It's available at most gas stations, and is offered by major suppliers like Shell and Aral. Shell V-Power and Aral Ultimate are two examples of 100 RON gasoline that are also available at almost every fuel station."
Since you seem to know it all (like you accused Massimo of) I won't explain the different calculation for octane rating between the EU and US. Let's keep it simple and say that EU 98 = US 93.
"Yes, 98 octane gas is available in Germany, and it's called "Super Plus E5". It's available at most gas stations, and is offered by major suppliers like Shell and Aral. Shell V-Power and Aral Ultimate are two examples of 100 RON gasoline that are also available at almost every fuel station."
Since you seem to know it all (like you accused Massimo of) I won't explain the different calculation for octane rating between the EU and US. Let's keep it simple and say that EU 98 = US 93.
Billyismyname should change his name to, Billyisamoron , pure nutjob!
We are all still laughing on how he is going to tell me how I should have paid for my Benz in Germany, and what should have taken place! LMAO!
Last edited by Massimo Here; 09-22-2024 at 10:26 AM.
#93
1. It cannot be done without Xentry or having the dealer unlock it for you which they wont in the US.
2. Mercedes DOES pay for shipping and waives the destination fee if you go through their program which I believe is now no longer available as of 2020/2021. Massimo stated that he did not have to change anything over like his headlights, taillights, dashboard etc. So he definitely went through the MB program. Again, probably lying because he said he only had to pay for shipping.
3. There are gasoline cars in Germany. I know more people who drive Gas Porsches, AMG's, S line Audi's etc than people who drive diesels. I was talking about the W213 E Class drivers that are almost all diesels. You won't find many gas powered W213 E Classes there unless they are AMG (I was just in Europe for 5 months. Didn't see one Gas powered E Class in the entire country).
4. I don't know. And I would believe him, IF he didn't sound like he makes sh*it up as he goes. If you look through his posts he always has someone he knows or his moms friend who does this that that etc. Just like the mirror link friend that 100% had to use Xentry to get that to work.
5. I had a 2000 E320 wagon as a first car that went up to half a million miles. Back when engines were robust and could handle such milage. I was solely talking about the 2.0L M274 Engine that he said has 300,000 miles without a single engine problem. I could bet my left kidney that isn't true. First thing is first, the PCV crankcase ventalation valve 10000% breaks on every M274 engine within the first 100,000-150,000 miles. So that's 100% a lie.
6. That's a great story.
2. Mercedes DOES pay for shipping and waives the destination fee if you go through their program which I believe is now no longer available as of 2020/2021. Massimo stated that he did not have to change anything over like his headlights, taillights, dashboard etc. So he definitely went through the MB program. Again, probably lying because he said he only had to pay for shipping.
3. There are gasoline cars in Germany. I know more people who drive Gas Porsches, AMG's, S line Audi's etc than people who drive diesels. I was talking about the W213 E Class drivers that are almost all diesels. You won't find many gas powered W213 E Classes there unless they are AMG (I was just in Europe for 5 months. Didn't see one Gas powered E Class in the entire country).
4. I don't know. And I would believe him, IF he didn't sound like he makes sh*it up as he goes. If you look through his posts he always has someone he knows or his moms friend who does this that that etc. Just like the mirror link friend that 100% had to use Xentry to get that to work.
5. I had a 2000 E320 wagon as a first car that went up to half a million miles. Back when engines were robust and could handle such milage. I was solely talking about the 2.0L M274 Engine that he said has 300,000 miles without a single engine problem. I could bet my left kidney that isn't true. First thing is first, the PCV crankcase ventalation valve 10000% breaks on every M274 engine within the first 100,000-150,000 miles. So that's 100% a lie.
6. That's a great story.
"Yes, 98 octane gas is available in Germany, and it's called "Super Plus E5". It's available at most gas stations, and is offered by major suppliers like Shell and Aral. Shell V-Power and Aral Ultimate are two examples of 100 RON gasoline that are also available at almost every fuel station."
Since you seem to know it all (like you accused Massimo of) I won't explain the different calculation for octane rating between the EU and US. Let's keep it simple and say that EU 98 = US 93.
#94
Found this on Reddit, just what my friend said in Germany that works at Mercedes about the piston failure:
I was talking to several service advisors from different dealerships, I have a 2018 C300 with the M274 and my car has been phenomenal. No issues whatsoever and I just hit 75K..
The shop foreman discuss the issue with me showed me several pictures of different M274 engines that were taken apart. And every time a customer would come in with the piston crack issue they would ask the customer if they are using 87 gas low-grade and they wouldn’t admit it. But upon there was so much deposit buildup from bad quality..
He said that everyone with the piston issue has been using low quality gas putting regular instead instead of premium. He said he often saw with people that traveled from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and they would fill up with regular gas…
Again have to ask yourself, why mostly only in the USA!?! (Bad gas!) and even using 91 octane at places like Walmart is like using 87 octane, don't go to cheap gas stations, always look for chevron or shell on that level. :-)
I was talking to several service advisors from different dealerships, I have a 2018 C300 with the M274 and my car has been phenomenal. No issues whatsoever and I just hit 75K..
The shop foreman discuss the issue with me showed me several pictures of different M274 engines that were taken apart. And every time a customer would come in with the piston crack issue they would ask the customer if they are using 87 gas low-grade and they wouldn’t admit it. But upon there was so much deposit buildup from bad quality..
He said that everyone with the piston issue has been using low quality gas putting regular instead instead of premium. He said he often saw with people that traveled from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and they would fill up with regular gas…
Again have to ask yourself, why mostly only in the USA!?! (Bad gas!) and even using 91 octane at places like Walmart is like using 87 octane, don't go to cheap gas stations, always look for chevron or shell on that level. :-)
I4 owners fill with bad/cheap gas, but the V6/V8 owners use premium ONLY? Really , I4 owners go to Walmart, but the V6/V8 do not..
Sometimes you have to analyze the data yourself, and not let someone else do it for you.
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#95
In the US, brand is not as important as using only a certified TopTierGas.com premium fuel.
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#97
In the US, brand is not as important as using only a certified TopTierGas.com premium fuel.
Could you give us all a list of names, thanks! :-)
#98
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#99
This shows you that the engines are being made in Germany and yes in the USA at one time, not any longer and haven't in a long time!
and....
NOT to mention your moron statement of 99.9% of all Mercedes w213 are diesel in Germany!! I lived there for 20 years and I know that is wrong also! LMAO!
My e300 was made in Germany and so was the engine, confirmed! :-)
..Now where the radio was source from and other things, IDK, maybe Mitsubishi , my w212 radio was made there.
Last edited by Massimo Here; 09-22-2024 at 11:08 AM.
#100
Just go to station finder: https://stationfinder.toptiergas.com/
Costco made the top tier list, nice!