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I can guarantee you that your turbo wastegate vacuum actuator will **** the bed before the actual turbo does. (Picture below).
On the left side of the picture, that piece has some sort of spring and a sealed chamber inside of it that allows boost pressure to escape. a lot of the time on cars with 100,000+ miles it'll go bad. That is the biggest killer of these turbos. It's not the actual insides of the turbo failing, but this piece.
If you go to Mercedes they'll tell you to buy an entire turbo if yours wears out. However, you can buy them online and replace them your self. They cost like $50-$100. It's a little hard to get to the pin underneath link, but I removed my entire turbo/exhaust assembly and was able to do it easily as it's underneath.
The other thing that will fail on our turbos is the actual wastegate door that allows all of the gases to escape and go through the exhaust. (Picture below).
That little door that covers the hole is constantly opening and closing. It's also insanely hot constantly. It will eventually wear out (the hinge that it's connected to). There is kinda no fixing that. If that ends up wearing out, might as well buy a new turbo.
But like others said, just change your oil and you should be good to go for a long time. My W213 has 143,000 miles and it's still running like new (knock on wood).
Last edited by Billyismyname; 09-20-2024 at 11:04 PM.
Yeah I'm not sure why Mercedes started using turbos in the E-Class, I love my 2012 E350 no turbo 302 horsepower and just about the same gas mileage they should have just stuck with that 3.5 engine really makes no sense!
Less power and I have to worry about the turbo going out
Yeah I'm not sure why Mercedes started using turbos in the E-Class, I love my 2012 E350 no turbo 302 horsepower and just about the same gas mileage they should have just stuck with that 3.5 engine really makes no sense!
Less power and I have to worry about the turbo going out
I think you are worrying about the wrong parts going out on your Mercedes. The turbo should be the last thing on your mind. The E300 M274 engine is terrible and something inside of it like the piston or wrist pin will crack way before your turbo goes bad. The M274 engines are notorious for wrist pin issues and cylinder wall scoring. Also, your timing chain and your timing will go before your turbo will. I've had to replace my cam shaft adjusters and my timing chain before I had to do any work to my turbo. I have two E300's currently, and had another one when it first came out. All the same problems. My neighbor also had a 2018 E300 and same problems.
Also, i too had a 2015 W212 E350 4 Matic. The E300 is way more fuel efficient. The E300 is just less reliable.
Last edited by Billyismyname; 09-20-2024 at 11:38 PM.
Theres a thousand forums online of people who had their engine blow up. MB said they fixed it after 2017 but they lied. People continue to still have issues. I had them as well. There is also a pending lawsuit against Mercedes for the piston wrist pin issues. You can look it up here https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-...omment-page-1/
Your mom probably drives a diesel in Germany. I highly doubt she has a Gasoline E300 M274 engine. The diesels are very different. When I lived in Germany and throughout Europe I never saw one gasoline E class.
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by Massimo Here
I know many people with the E300 W213 never heard anything about Pistons or timing chains not one, and have well over 200,000 miles!
My mother lives in Germany and her friend has one as a taxi cab 300,000 miles no Pistons or timing chain issues!
I wonder if taxis are maintained more aggressively than personal use cars. I'd be surprised if the taxis follow 15,000 km or 10,000 mile oil change intervals.
Also many of these people that had problems, race them didn't treat them well and added modifications!
Don't know what to tell you. The proof is in the pudding. My second E300 i have has 190,000 miles on it and never had a problem with it. But it was all high way milage and I changed the oil every 3,000 miles and spark plugs every 20,000. Also the engines in Europe are most likely from a different manufacturing plant than the ones we have here in the US. Some are different than others and better built.
I just know that most friends I know that had E300's all had to get their engines replaced under warranty or buy a new engine because they exploded. Including me.
I wonder if taxis are maintained more aggressively than personal use cars. I'd be surprised if the taxis follow 15,000 km or 10,000 mile oil change intervals.
I think the engines used in the European market come from different manufacturing plants than the ones we have here in the US. I'm also surprised his moms car hasn't exploded just because gasoline in europe is complete garbage and most places you can only get 91 octane for the most part.
Well I guess I got lucky I bought my E300 2017 2.0 brand new from Stuttgart Germany test drove it on the Autobahn and then brought it back to USA
So you spent $5000+ on a new speedometer instrument panel (because you have to change KMH to MPH) here in the US. I know the European E Classes don't have MPH in small print because I own a W213 in Croatia and it only has KMH.
and you're telling me you also changed the european head lights for the USA version that include the yellow position markers? How much did all of this cost you to import it from Germany to the US? Because that car for import fees is no less than $2,500, shipping is another $2,000, taillights and programming another $1,000, headlights cannot be under $6,000, and the instrument panel is around $5,000. So it cost you $16,000 just to import?
On the left side of the picture, that piece has some sort of spring and a sealed chamber inside of it that allows boost pressure to escape. a lot of the time on cars with 100,000+ miles it'll go bad. That is the biggest killer of these turbos. It's not the actual insides of the turbo failing, but this piece.
If you go to Mercedes they'll tell you to buy an entire turbo if yours wears out. However, you can buy them online and replace them your self. They cost like $50-$100. It's a little hard to get to the pin underneath link, but I removed my entire turbo/exhaust assembly and was able to do it easily as it's underneath.
That little door that covers the hole is constantly opening and closing. It's also insanely hot constantly. It will eventually wear out (the hinge that it's connected to). There is kinda no fixing that. If that ends up wearing out, might as well buy a new turbo.
But like others said, just change your oil and you should be good to go for a long time. My W213 has 143,000 miles and it's still running like new (knock on wood).
I paid for shipping cost that's it! It was made for the USA- going that way already! :-)
But I did have to do a software update at Mercedes in the USA, but that was done free!
Why would you have to pay for shipping costs when Mercedes European Delivery Program removes the destination charge and has shipping insurance and freight to the US included?
PFL205.064 with M276.823 (Oil pump solenoid defeated)
Originally Posted by Billyismyname
Why would you have to pay for shipping costs when Mercedes European Delivery Program removes the destination charge and has shipping insurance and freight to the US included?
If I recalled correctly, OP bought this vehicle recently, used.
If I recalled correctly, OP bought this vehicle recently, used.
Yeah i trust this guy as much as a Taco Bell bathroom. His story doesn't add up. Just like what he said about his moms car being an E300 gasoline engine in Germany with 300,000 miles... Toyota engines start breaking around that milage let alone a 2 liter USA built Nissan engine that they slapped into a 2 tonne mercedes.
Yeah you probably need to read better I never said it was my mother's if you looked at my thread it says my mother's friend who is a taxi driver in Cologne Germany and once again these weren't built in the USA at a Nissan plant, mine or my mother's friend!
Yeah you probably need to read better I never said it was my mother's if you looked at my thread it says my mother's friend who is a taxi driver in Cologne Germany and once again these weren't built in the USA at a Nissan plant, mine or my mother's friend!
Doesn't matter if it's your mom or not. I am from Europe and I live over there for 6 months out of the year. 6 months in the US. I have never in my 15 years of living over there seen a Mercedes gasoline engined car being used for a taxi. Never. Gas is around $6-$7 in parts of Germany and you're telling me that the average citizen in Germany who makes 1500-2000 euros a month can afford to put $6 a gallon in their mercedes? give me a break. 99% if not all taxi's are Diesels.
This is coming from the same guy who said his friend enabled "Mirror link" from the engineering menu on his mercedes without using a 3rd party application or hardware. You can lie to your self about these things, but not to people who have some common sense.
Also, youre wrong about the engines. The M274 IS built in the USA at the Alabama plant, and the engine is from a Nissan/Infinity. It's not even a Mercedes engine.
PFL205.064 with M276.823 (Oil pump solenoid defeated)
Originally Posted by Billyismyname
Yeah i trust this guy as much as a Taco Bell bathroom. His story doesn't add up. Just like what he said about his moms car being an E300 gasoline engine in Germany with 300,000 miles... Toyota engines start breaking around that milage let alone a 2 liter USA built Nissan engine that they slapped into a 2 tonne mercedes.
I think all E-Class sedans are made in Germany regardless or market except for certain Asian countries they build them where they are. I would had thought the M274 was also made in Germany, could be wrong.
I think all E-Class sedans are made in Germany regardless or market except for certain Asian countries they build them where they are. I would had thought the M274 was also made in Germany, could be wrong.
You are correct. The Asian Mercedes market has the E class L which is the longer version that no one else gets for some reason. All other E Classes are made in Germany and exported to the US Canada etc.
Engines aren't mercedes design, and they're made in house in Alabama and another plant in the US.
09-13-2024, 03:51 PM
