Changing oil on 2025 E450
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Changing oil on 2025 E450
On my present car, a 2019 E450 I can use an oil extractor through the dipstick to change the oil. The oil filter is easily accessible. Doing it myself saves a lot to time and money.
I have read that the new I6 does not have a dipstick. Does anyone know if the same procedure can be followed with I6 found on the 2024 and 2025 E450's or is draining the oil from below the only way to change the oil?
I am too old to jack up the car and use a mechanics creeper to get under the car to drain the oil.
Many thanks in advance!
I have read that the new I6 does not have a dipstick. Does anyone know if the same procedure can be followed with I6 found on the 2024 and 2025 E450's or is draining the oil from below the only way to change the oil?
I am too old to jack up the car and use a mechanics creeper to get under the car to drain the oil.
Many thanks in advance!
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On my present car, a 2019 E450 I can use an oil extractor through the dipstick to change the oil. The oil filter is easily accessible. Doing it myself saves a lot to time and money.
I have read that the new I6 does not have a dipstick. Does anyone know if the same procedure can be followed with I6 found on the 2024 and 2025 E450's or is draining the oil from below the only way to change the oil?
I am too old to jack up the car and use a mechanics creeper to get under the car to drain the oil.
Many thanks in advance!
I have read that the new I6 does not have a dipstick. Does anyone know if the same procedure can be followed with I6 found on the 2024 and 2025 E450's or is draining the oil from below the only way to change the oil?
I am too old to jack up the car and use a mechanics creeper to get under the car to drain the oil.
Many thanks in advance!
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I've done it twice already. Not hard, but yes, you have to get under the car. The plastic shroud must be removed (10 screws) to get to the plastic drain plug. It's a large plug with large threads that snaps into place rather being torqued. It's beast to use a large blade screw driver but there is a special tool you can get for it to make it easier. I have it and it does make it easier. Worth it if you are going to do it more than a few times. Mercedes also recommends you change the drain plug. On my first oil change, I reused the drain plug. On the second, I replaced it. The filter is easy to get to. You do have to remove the air intake on the right (as you are looking at it from the front). None of this is hard but it's certainly not as easy as on my W212 using an extractor from the dipstick.
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I've done it twice already. Not hard, but yes, you have to get under the car. The plastic shroud must be removed (10 screws) to get to the plastic drain plug. It's a large plug with large threads that snaps into place rather being torqued. It's beast to use a large blade screw driver but there is a special tool you can get for it to make it easier. I have it and it does make it easier. Worth it if you are going to do it more than a few times. Mercedes also recommends you change the drain plug. On my first oil change, I reused the drain plug. On the second, I replaced it. The filter is easy to get to. You do have to remove the air intake on the right (as you are looking at it from the front). None of this is hard but it's certainly not as easy as on my W212 using an extractor from the dipstick.
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Funny thing is that I always used to do it, but once oil changes came down in price to under $30, I said why bother.
Now that prices have gone through the roof, even my Indy guy is $150, I am too old to do it!
Such is life!
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I've done it twice already. Not hard, but yes, you have to get under the car. The plastic shroud must be removed (10 screws) to get to the plastic drain plug. It's a large plug with large threads that snaps into place rather being torqued. It's beast to use a large blade screw driver but there is a special tool you can get for it to make it easier. I have it and it does make it easier. Worth it if you are going to do it more than a few times. Mercedes also recommends you change the drain plug. On my first oil change, I reused the drain plug. On the second, I replaced it. The filter is easy to get to. You do have to remove the air intake on the right (as you are looking at it from the front). None of this is hard but it's certainly not as easy as on my W212 using an extractor from the dipstick.
- 10 screws to remove the shroud to get at the drain plug
- Special tool to remove the drain plug
- Replace drain plug when you change the oil
- Remove air intake to get to the oil filter
- Replace shroud and 10 screws
Now I know better!
Wonder what the dealers will now charge for a simple oil change!
On American cars parts that need to be regularly serviced are easy to get out. Germans can make easy things hard!
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I've done it twice already. Not hard, but yes, you have to get under the car. The plastic shroud must be removed (10 screws) to get to the plastic drain plug. It's a large plug with large threads that snaps into place rather being torqued. It's beast to use a large blade screw driver but there is a special tool you can get for it to make it easier. I have it and it does make it easier. Worth it if you are going to do it more than a few times. Mercedes also recommends you change the drain plug. On my first oil change, I reused the drain plug. On the second, I replaced it. The filter is easy to get to. You do have to remove the air intake on the right (as you are looking at it from the front). None of this is hard but it's certainly not as easy as on my W212 using an extractor from the dipstick.
I was afraid that was going to be the answer. I have a creeper, but as I posted I am just too old to be going under cars.
Funny thing is that I always used to do it, but once oil changes came down in price to under $30, I said why bother.
Now that prices have gone through the roof, even my Indy guy is $150, I am too old to do it!
Such is life!
Funny thing is that I always used to do it, but once oil changes came down in price to under $30, I said why bother.
Now that prices have gone through the roof, even my Indy guy is $150, I am too old to do it!
Such is life!
You can get to the workshop menu by holding the home button on the steering wheel for 10 seconds and then immediately hold the OK button just left of the home button on the steering wheel for a few seconds. That brings up a menu. Just follow the prompts. I use that to get to tha actual oil level gage. I haven't reset the service meter as both oil changes were early ar 722 and 5200 miles. I'll bring it in for an A service at 10K.
Sorry for the bad news OP.
Good idea, since the regular engine oil level gauge is too vague.
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You can get to the workshop menu by holding the home button on the steering wheel for 10 seconds and then immediately hold the OK button just left of the home button on the steering wheel for a few seconds. That brings up a menu. Just follow the prompts. I use that to get to tha actual oil level gage. I haven't reset the service meter as both oil changes were early ar 722 and 5200 miles. I'll bring it in for an A service at 10K.
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If you do your own service be sure to document including date and Miles. I understand there is a way to make it part of official carfax record.
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Is there no way to remove the oil filter, and then siphon the oil through that portal? Vacuum pulls the oil up through the tube. So there's no need to create a seal at a dipstick. I've been doing this with my C/E Class cars for 20 years, and am too old to "Make MB Great Again" by retreating to the Neanderthal days.
I'd snoop around at the dealer to see how they do it. I bet they have a way that doesn't require service from below. Think of the investment they have in their dealer-sized oil extraction systems.
I'd snoop around at the dealer to see how they do it. I bet they have a way that doesn't require service from below. Think of the investment they have in their dealer-sized oil extraction systems.
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Is there no way to remove the oil filter, and then siphon the oil through that portal? Vacuum pulls the oil up through the tube. So there's no need to create a seal at a dipstick. I've been doing this with my C/E Class cars for 20 years, and am too old to "Make MB Great Again" by retreating to the Neanderthal days.
I'd snoop around at the dealer to see how they do it. I bet they have a way that doesn't require service from below. Think of the investment they have in their dealer-sized oil extraction systems.
I'd snoop around at the dealer to see how they do it. I bet they have a way that doesn't require service from below. Think of the investment they have in their dealer-sized oil extraction systems.
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Is there no way to remove the oil filter, and then siphon the oil through that portal? Vacuum pulls the oil up through the tube. So there's no need to create a seal at a dipstick. I've been doing this with my C/E Class cars for 20 years, and am too old to "Make MB Great Again" by retreating to the Neanderthal days.
I'd snoop around at the dealer to see how they do it. I bet they have a way that doesn't require service from below. Think of the investment they have in their dealer-sized oil extraction systems.
I'd snoop around at the dealer to see how they do it. I bet they have a way that doesn't require service from below. Think of the investment they have in their dealer-sized oil extraction systems.
From my understanding on the W214 without a dipstick, it is not possible to remove the oil through the oil filter, as the extraction tube will not go directly to the oil pan.
That means going under the car, removing the protective cover and then removing the nylon oil plug, which should be replaced each time.
I am now 80+ and my days of jacking up a car or driving up ramps, getting under a car with a mechanics creeper, (Christmas present from my wife 45 years ago) removing the protective cover and then the oil plug are over!
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It only makes sense that using the dipstick you’re going straight into the oil pan where it can be siphoned out. Trying to go through the oil filter housing would not go directly into the pan, but into the oil pump system.
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Which vehicle though, the E 53 hybrid? With the fast growing technology and hopefully improvement in battery technology not sure if the vehicle will be traded in for something else rather quickly (when it is ready that is)?
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I just had my first A service done yesterday and I saw them do the work. Car was lifted and oil drained from the pan. No extraction method used. They only put 8.5 quarts in when the manual says the capacity is 10.5 quarts. This aligns with my own service notes where I have never drained more than 8.5 quarts. I'm assuming a good bit of the oil stays in the engine unless the manual is wrong. It does seem like 10.5 quarts is a lot of oil.
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