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Old Feb 20, 2025 | 09:55 PM
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Advice: How / Where to sell stock wheels

I have the wheels / tires below on the E53 that I ordered and I will take delivery in about a month. I will be replacing them immediately (before I leave dealer) with 20 inch OEM wheels. Long story.

Q. The dealer says these are too specialized for them to sell to any of their local customers, which I'm beginning to believe, so what is the best approach to selling them with the least silly business? On MBWorld?

4 x 21-inch AMG forged cross-spoke, black, with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S



Any feedback is appreciated. Assume I already know how dumb it was for me to change my mind AFTER spec'ing the 21 inch wheels.
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Old Feb 20, 2025 | 10:10 PM
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Rather than sell them, perhaps you could trade them with another E53 owner who has the wheels you would prefer.
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Old Feb 20, 2025 | 10:23 PM
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
Rather than sell them, perhaps you could trade them with another E53 owner who has the wheels you would prefer.
That could work.

If anyone in North America has a 2025 E53 with the 20-inch AMG twin 5-spoke wheels (see top image), but want the 21-inch AMG forged cross-spoke wheels (see bottom image), maybe there is a deal to be made.



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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 09:09 AM
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I ordered the same wheels, is there a reason why you are swapping them out?
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 11:58 AM
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Old Feb 21, 2025 | 01:40 PM
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I ordered the same wheels, is there a reason why you are swapping them out?
There are many reasons, but the reasons are based on how I will use the car, not a failing of the wheels. For everyone with these I think it is safe to say these are gorgeous, light, strong, tailor made premium AMG forged wheels for this E53.

My narrow reasons:
  1. I was looking for a "Baby S-Class" ride upgrade over my nice-enough C300. I also loved the P2 hybrid addition since my commute is very short (under 6 miles).
  2. I do not drive anywhere near the limit of this vehicle's performance. Not even that half of the performance envelope. I like the look, tech, comfort, torque and hybrid.
  3. The E53 is reported to be 4,224 lbs at MBUSA.com, and now 3 responses from them confirm that "claim", but in reality MB in Germany admit on their site this car is about 5,100 lbs.
  4. At that hefty weight the tire pressures are close to 51 PSI so the ride comfort is compromised.
  5. Add to that the 21" wheels are 35 / 30 sidewalls and so you only get about about 3.5" of sidewall rubber to absorb impacts.
  6. I have done 2 test drives and the 21" wheels/tires are not luxurious, but have excellent road grip and stability. So, not bad, just not why I want this E-Class (you can't get a P2 with these looks in the non-AMG here).
  7. Very occasionally on road trips (not locally) I will encounter small amounts of snow and you can't get an all-season tires on these 21" wheels.
  8. There is 15% more sidewall on the 20" OEM wheels (4.1") and I can get Michelin All Season Pilot Sport 4 on there.
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 03:47 AM
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Or maybe I just keep the super fancy 21" forged wheels and summer tires for a year or two (no short term plans for snowy road trips in California), and use that time to scope out better options.

Things I could explore more patiently:
  • Maybe I grow to love the 21" experience and there is nothing to fix. The summer tires are actually slightly safer in dry and wet than all-seasons - and I live in sunny California.
  • The parts advisor at the dealership found 19" wheels in Germany that are OEM for the E53. Issue is they are not approved for North America right now so getting them is very hard / not compatible with warranty.
  • Maybe the 2026, 2027 or 2028 versions of the E53 will have new wheel options, possibly including a 19" variant in North America.
  • Again, 19" wheels on the E53 would add a full inch to the sidewall (over the 21") and improve ride comfort much more than the 20" OEM wheels I was thinking of swapping to on day 1.
  • Maybe aftermarket wheels will target the E53 in the coming years and open up my options beyond the current few MB OEM wheels.
  • Or in a few months, or years I decide I want the 20" OEM wheels in the original post and I just get them. I would then use advice above to sell 21" wheels on Facebook Marketplace or wherever.
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ALTERNATIVE PLAN
Or maybe I just keep the super fancy 21" forged wheels and summer tires for a year or two (no short term plans for snowy road trips in California), and use that time to scope out better options.

Things I could explore more patiently:
  • Maybe I grow to love the 21" experience and there is nothing to fix. The summer tires are actually slightly safer in dry and wet than all-seasons - and I live in sunny California.
  • The parts advisor at the dealership found 19" wheels in Germany that are OEM for the E53. Issue is they are not approved for North America right now so getting them is very hard / not compatible with warranty.
  • Maybe the 2026, 2027 or 2028 versions of the E53 will have new wheel options, possibly including a 19" variant in North America.…

I doubt the 19” wheels will fit over the larger rotors and calipers included with the AMG Dynamic Plus package shown in the photo in your first post above. Do you have the part number for the 19” wheels?

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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 04:14 PM
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@LAZARU5 My dealership parts expert found these 19 inch wheels (see part numbers below) in Germany. Can't be ordered in North America currently. They are for the E53 in Germany and you can spec them when you do a build online there, including when you have the AMG Dynamics Plus package with the 390mm front brakes.


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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 06:34 PM
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@Huleyman - I recently sold a set of wheels for my 2018 E63. I posted on eBay, FB, Craigslist, and here. I ultimately sold it to another user on here.

I might be interested in your wheels as a summer option for my car. Do you have width and offsets for these?
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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 08:40 PM
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@Huleyman - I recently sold a set of wheels for my 2018 E63. I posted on eBay, FB, Craigslist, and here. I ultimately sold it to another user on here.

I might be interested in your wheels as a summer option for my car. Do you have width and offsets for these?
Good to know there are occasionally buyers here.

As for the wheel specs, I found this data online (I don't have the car yet): Tires / Rims / Offset Range (mm).


When I get the vehicle (about 30 days from now) I plan to drive on them for some amount of time. I may want 19 inch options to emerge before parting with these and that could take some months (or more).
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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Huleyman
Good to know there are occasionally buyers here.

As for the wheel specs, I found this data online (I don't have the car yet): Tires / Rims / Offset Range (mm).


When I get the vehicle (about 30 days from now) I plan to drive on them for some amount of time. I may want 19 inch options to emerge before parting with these and that could take some months (or more).
Where did you find the specs which show the ET range? I would like to know the range for the 19" wheels you reference in Post #10 above.

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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 12:06 AM
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@LAZARU5 I found this website hunting on my own, and then my parts guy at MB said this helped him find the 19 inch OEM wheel listed here on the MB Germany website for the E53. You can spec that wheel there (it has grey accents).


Image from site with the 19 inch OEM wheel specs:

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Old Feb 27, 2025 | 02:32 PM
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@Huleyman I found a source for a set of the E53 19" wheels with TPMS, shipping, and mounted Pirelli Cinturato P7 tires for $5400. If I can sell my 20" wheels with TPMS and partially worn AS tires for a reasonable price I plan to downsize the tire size to improve the ride comfort.

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A21440115007X21 9.5 x 20 ET 25.2 and rear A21440116007X21 10.5 x 20 ET 43.

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Old Feb 27, 2025 | 02:42 PM
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...They are for the E53 in Germany and you can spec them when you do a build online there, including when you have the AMG Dynamics Plus package with the 390mm front brakes.
I took a close look at the clearance between the 4-piston calipers for the 370mm rotors and the 20" wheels and I think the clearance between the 19" wheels and 6-piston calipers for the 390mm rotors could be as little as 5mm. Also, the rear calipers for the base E53 come fairly close to the wheel barrels.
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Old Feb 27, 2025 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
@Huleyman I found a source for a set of the E53 19" wheels with TPMS, shipping, and mounted Pirelli Cinturato P7 tires for $5400. If I can sell my 20" wheels with TPMS and partially worn AS tires for a reasonable price I plan to downsize the tire size to improve the ride comfort.

My current wheels are front
A21440115007X21 9.5 x 20 ET 25.2 and rear A21440116007X21 10.5 x 20 ET 43.
Very exciting. If it all comes together it would be great to hear how the responsiveness and ride comfort is impacted going from your 21 inch wheels to these 19 inch ones. I am very optimistic it will be an upgrade if you don't spend time on a track (I don't).

It sounds like you found the AMG E53 19 inch OEM wheels that are currently available from MB in Germany. Or are these aftermarket 19 inch wheels that were made with E53 fitment in mind?
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Old Feb 27, 2025 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
I took a close look at the clearance between the 4-piston calipers for the 370mm rotors and the 20" wheels and I think the clearance between the 19" wheels and 6-piston calipers for the 390mm rotors could be as little as 5mm. Also, the rear calipers for the base E53 come fairly close to the wheel barrels.
This is very helpful information. Fingers crossed I won't have to downgrade my brakes to fit 19 inch wheels in the future. I got a response from MB USA today that they've passed on to leadership the recommendation to include 19 inch E53 wheel options from Germany, into the North American market to better accomodate All Season & Winter tires, and also to improve ride comfort. Fingers crossed. Breath not being held.
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Very exciting. If it all comes together it would be great to hear how the responsiveness and ride comfort is impacted going from your 21 inch wheels to these 19 inch ones. I am very optimistic it will be an upgrade if you don't spend time on a track (I don't).

It sounds like you found the AMG E53 19 inch OEM wheels that are currently available from MB in Germany. Or are these aftermarket 19 inch wheels that were made with E53 fitment in mind?
Actually, my current wheels are 20", not the extra cost 21" wheels. The 19" wheels I hope to get are the OEM ones you reference above. I don't really trust the aftermarket wheels on a car that is as heavy as the E53 Hybrid.
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@LAZARU5 My dealership parts expert found these 19 inch wheels (see part numbers below) in Germany. Can't be ordered in North America currently. They are for the E53 in Germany and you can spec them when you do a build online there, including when you have the AMG Dynamics Plus package with the 390mm front brakes.

I believe the following 2025 E53 19" wheels are available in the USA.

A21440143007Y51 9.0 x 19 ET 16
A21440120007Y51 9.5 x 19 ET 36.1

These are the wheels for Winter tires sizes 245/45-R19 and 275/40-R19.

Compared to traffic signs displaying your speed my 20" factory tires register about 2 mph more than the actual speed shown on the signs. The smaller diameter 245 and 275 tires should help correct the speed a bit. However, the sidewalls are only about 1/4" higher, so there may not be much difference in ride comfort over the 20" tires.

Another possibility would be to mount 255/45-R19 and 285/40-R19 tires on the Winter wheels, but there are not as many tire options available in these sizes.

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I believe the following 2025 E53 19" wheels are available in the USA.

A21440143007Y51 9.0 x 19 ET 16
A21440120007Y51 9.5 x 19 ET 36.1

These are the wheels for Winter tires sizes 245/45-R19 and 275/40-R19.

Compared to traffic signs displaying your speed my 20" factory tires register about 2 mph more than the actual speed shown on the signs. The smaller diameter 245 and 275 tires should help correct the speed a bit. However, the sidewalls are only about 1/4" higher, so there may not be much difference in ride comfort over the 20" tires.

Another possibility would be to mount 255/45-R19 and 285/40-R19 tires on the Winter wheels, but there are not as many tire options available in these sizes.
Given the wheel widths you are listing are different from the German OEM E53 19" wheels in my image, I'm guessing these new part numbers are for different wheels.

Not a problem though if they fit the E53. And then the fun becomes which tires will balance ride quality and overall diameter (to avoid rubbing and speedometer issues).
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Given the wheel widths you are listing are different from the German OEM E53 19" wheels in my image, I'm guessing these new part numbers are for different wheels.

Not a problem though if they fit the E53. And then the fun becomes which tires will balance ride quality and overall diameter (to avoid rubbing and speedometer issues).
The wheel widths and offsets are different from the 19" wheels you identified previously. But the design and grey color of the wheels appears to be the same. Rubbing won't be a problem. My particular 20" tires are already showing a speed 2 miles greater than the actual speed at 60 mph. Any of the 19" tires with a slightly smaller overall diameter should help correct the speedometer error.
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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
The wheel widths and offsets are different from the 19" wheels you identified previously. But the design and grey color of the wheels appears to be the same. Rubbing won't be a problem. My particular 20" tires are already showing a speed 2 miles greater than the actual speed at 60 mph. Any of the 19" tires with a slightly smaller overall diameter should help correct the speedometer error.
Why would your 20" wheels/tires show a 2mph difference? Are they the factory wheel/tire spec? What is your tire spec?
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Why would your 20" wheels/tires show a 2mph difference? Are they the factory wheel/tire spec? What is your tire spec?
I have the 265/40-ZR20 and 295/35-ZR20 tires on the factory 20" wheels. The first time I noticed the speedometer error compared to the radar speed displays I assumed that the equipment on the road was defective. But after at least 20 times passing the speed signs, I think the car is actually mis-calibrated by 2 miles at 60 mph. It would be nice if MB allowed owners to specify the tire size like I was able to do in the Taycan dashboard configuration settings.
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The revolutions per mile may be greater depending on the tire size. IIRC the revs/mile should be 778 for factory standard tires.
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