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I'm wondering about the same thing. I've changed oil twice in the E450 and never got mote than about 8 liters out. I've always attributed that to the car being on an angle, but now I'm wondering if the manual is wrong.
When you replaced the oil did you just add the same amount that you drained out? My ramps are 9" high so I am considering changing the oil on my drive were it slopes downward so that the car remains reasonably level.
If it even actually applied to our vehicles... Print and online versions aren't even the E53, but the in-car electronic version would definitely fit your description, with vagueness abounding.
Is the AMG Supplemental booklet that was included with your owner's manual the Spanish edition? If it is the English edition, could you post the part number printed on the back cover?
For me it's not a matter of cost, I simply have trust issues.
Trust is definitely a concern. Once I have an authoritative document that specifies the oil viscosity, quality spec, and capacity for the W214 E53 I would like to ask the MB service department which oil and quantity they would use to see if it is in agreement with the document.
Is the AMG Supplemental booklet that was included with your owner's manual the Spanish edition? If it is the English edition, could you post the part number printed on the back cover?
Picked my car up from the dealership March 7th, it’s the Spanish edition.
Trust is definitely a concern. Once I have an authoritative document that specifies the oil viscosity, quality spec, and capacity for the W214 E53 I would like to ask the MB service department which oil and quantity they would use to see if it is in agreement with the document.
Valid concern for sure unless you actually do analysis and stuff you never know if the dealership actually changed the oil.
When you replaced the oil did you just add the same amount that you drained out? My ramps are 9" high so I am considering changing the oil on my drive were it slopes downward so that the car remains reasonably level.
I measured the amount of oil removed and put in the same amount of fresh oil.
Had an alignment done today at the dealership, took this pic while picking up a filter and plug from the parts counter.
Is that screen shot the results after entering the VIN from your E53? If so, this seems like a definitive description of the capacity, quality, and viscosity for the E53 oil.
Is that screen shot the results after entering the VIN from your E53? If so, this seems like a definitive description of the capacity, quality, and viscosity for the E53 oil.
Did someone at the dealership volunteer this information about using 229.5 instead of 229.51/229.52?
I simply asked for the oil they were using, he brought out the Mobil1 Euro. Seems the dealership is having just as hard of a time sourcing the correct spec 0w40 as we are.
I simply asked for the oil they were using, he brought out the Mobil1 Euro. Seems the dealership is having just as hard of a time sourcing the correct spec 0w40 as we are.
Dealerships like to stock certain oils that works for both gasoline and diesel. That saves on costs. Is this oil the one that works on their BlueTEC vehicles as well? I can't remember.
Dealerships like to stock certain oils that works for both gasoline and diesel. That saves on costs. Is this oil the one that works on their BlueTEC vehicles as well? I can't remember.
I think thats the rub. The spec for Bluetec is the same 229.51/52 but the viscosity is wrong. They did tell me they don't have the oil for the E53 in the bay pump heads, so they hand out bottles to the techs.
I think thats the rub. The spec for Bluetec is the same 229.51/52 but the viscosity is wrong. They did tell me they don't have the oil for the E53 in the bay pump heads, so they hand out bottles to the techs.
I wonder if MB issued a service bulletin allowing the dealers to use 229.5 0w40 spec oil if 229.51/229.52 is not available. I will be making the first oil change in a couple of months and I am probably going to order Mobil 1 ESP X4 0W40 unless the Liqui Moly 4120 becomes available. Like @L1Wolf I will be checking the engine oil level on the dashboard before starting and measuring the amount of oil that is drained to see how close it comes to 7.3 liters.
I wonder if MB issued a service bulletin allowing the dealers to use 229.5 0w40 spec oil if 229.51/229.52 is not available. I will be making the first oil change in a couple of months and I am probably going to order Mobil 1 ESP X4 0W40 unless the Liqui Moly 4120 becomes available. Like @L1Wolf I will be checking the engine oil level on the dashboard before starting and measuring the amount of oil that is drained to see how close it comes to 7.3 liters.
4120 is my desire for sure, though without a true directive from MB, I too will be using ESP for my first change next week. Don’t want to be caught out with an issue and receipts for the wrong oil.
I think thats the rub. The spec for Bluetec is the same 229.51/52 but the viscosity is wrong. They did tell me they don't have the oil for the E53 in the bay pump heads, so they hand out bottles to the techs.
Ya in that case really recommend just buying other brands like liqui moly, pennzoil, motul, amsoil etc.
Can anyone explain the difference between the oil specification and capacity in the screen shot in post #34 and this excerpt from the Jan 2025 online E-Class manual? MB is really doing everything they can to get customers to inadvertently change oil with the wrong spec and capacity. Whoever is responsible for editing the owner's manual deserves to be fired. I don't believe 229.71/72 oil is even available with 0w40 viscosity.
Can anyone explain the difference between the oil specification and capacity in the screen shot in post #34 and this excerpt from the Jan 2025 online E-Class manual? MB is really doing everything they can to get customers to inadvertently change oil with the wrong spec and capacity. Whoever is responsible for editing the owner's manual deserves to be fired. I don't believe 229.71/72 oil is even available with 0w40 viscosity.
Excerpt from January 2025 online E-Class Owner's Manual
Honestly looks like poorly edited combined info from other parts of that same manual. In the non AMG section it calls out .71/.72 and the same lower capacity for “All other models”.
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