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Can anyone explain the difference between the oil specification and capacity in the screen shot in post #34 and this excerpt from the Jan 2025 online E-Class manual? MB is really doing everything they can to get customers to inadvertently change oil with the wrong spec and capacity. Whoever is responsible for editing the owner's manual deserves to be fired. I don't believe 229.71/72 oil is even available with 0w40 viscosity.
Just finished changing the oil on mine, can confirm that it took 7.3. I used OE filter and plug, Mobil 1 ESP X4.
Did you just have to remove the middle panel (the one with the large bolts) under the engine to access the drain plug? Two cartons of Mobil 1 ESP X4 which I purchased online arrived today. I have not found this oil locally.
Did you just have to remove the middle panel (the one with the large bolts) under the engine to access the drain plug? Two cartons of Mobil 1 ESP X4 which I purchased online arrived today. I have not found this oil locally.
Yes, the middle panel must be removed, there is no access to the drainplug otherwise. There are 5 larger bolts, 17mm if I remember correctly, and 4 smaller 13mm.
Apparently, the oil level won't show on the dash unless the hood is closed? Small panic until I read that in the electronic manual... (this might be normal for MB, but since this is my first, I didn't know)
2025 AMG E 53; 2018 GLC300 4Matic; 2003 360 Modena
Mercedes updated their 229.52 oil sheet today. The 229.52 lists two Mercedes branded oils - only 0w-40. The Liqui-Moly 4120 is still listed and 0w-40 only, but not available in the USA. The Mobil 1 ESP x4 0W-40, to me, is the best choice. Same viscosity rating as the MB branded offerings, .51 and .52 compliant, and SP rated which is important for Direct Injection engines.
I sent an email to MBUSA about a week ago asking if following the guidelines on this web page would void the warranty. I got a reply saying some one would follow up with me soon. Have not heard anything yet.
Mercedes updated their 229.52 oil sheet today. The 229.52 lists two Mercedes branded oils - only 0w-40. The Liqui-Moly 4120 is still listed and 0w-40 only, but not available in the USA. The Mobil 1 ESP x4 0W-40, to me, is the best choice. Same viscosity rating as the MB branded offerings, .51 and .52 compliant, and SP rated which is important for Direct Injection engines.
I wonder what the difference is between 229.71/72 and 229.51/52. My understanding is that the E450 has the same engine as the E53, but tuned differently to obtain the extra power. MB says to use the .71/72 in 0W-20 for the E450, but .51/52 in 0W-40 for the E53. I wonder why that is. Is it a mechanical need where there is something different in the engine that needs the different oil or maybe it's a use case need where the AMG will likely be driven harder and therefore need a different oil. Anyone know?
2025 AMG E 53; 2018 GLC300 4Matic; 2003 360 Modena
I feel that the .71 and .72 for the AMG is a mis-print, as further up in the manual it specifies .51. All operating fluid information restricts the E 53 to .51 and .52. There is an important caveat in the manual information above that states ... "observe possible viscosity restrictions of the approved SAE viscosity classes". For the E 53 - that viscosity restriction is noted as 0w or 5w-40. .71 and .72 are only 0w-20 viscosity. That puts me back to my post #54. I'm not sure it's possible for MB to make this more confusing.
I feel that the .71 and .72 for the AMG is a mis-print, as further up in the manual it specifies .51. All operating fluid information restricts the E 53 to .51 and .52. There is an important caveat in the manual information above that states ... "observe possible viscosity restrictions of the approved SAE viscosity classes". For the E 53 - that viscosity restriction is noted as 0w or 5w-40. .71 and .72 are only 0w-20 viscosity. That puts me back to my post #54. I'm not sure it's possible for MB to make this more confusing.
100% agree, the whole manual wreaks of AI interpretation with little educated oversight.
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