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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 02:26 PM
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Stop Door Handle Proximity Extending

Is there a way to stop the door handles from extending when you are in proximity to the car? Just have them extend when you touch the lock/unlock square on the handle? Thanks
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 02:31 PM
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I am interested in knowing about this too. I look at it as a safety issue, where all doors pop open, whether we want to, or not.
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 02:49 PM
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I am interested in knowing about this too. I look at it as a safety issue, where all doors pop open, whether we want to, or not.

They don't unlock so don't see how it could be a safety issue 🤷
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 04:54 PM
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My door handles do NOT "extend" until I put my hand behind one to unlock. So I don't see the problem.
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 06:40 PM
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I'm not sure what the issue is. They do not unlock and only pop out if you are close. You would see anything or anyone if they were near the car when they pop out. If they tried to open it would not until you were practically on top of the car. If you had a concern, you could hit the lock button and they would go back in. This is really no different then the previous generations that just light up the handles when you approach with the key fob.

To answer your question though, I do not believe there is a way to prevent them from popping out. Maybe a third party coding could do it. To my knowledge, none of the third party coders can code for the W214 yet. Something to do with licensing, but I really don't know. You could disable the entry assist lights, but I think they will still pop out. Haven't tried myself to know for sure as I have no desire to do this.
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 06:41 PM
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My door handles do NOT "extend" until I put my hand behind one to unlock. So I don't see the problem.
You are probably referring to the prior generations of the E-class. The W214 has flush handles that must extend to put your hand behind them before pulling them out to open the door. Just like the S-Class and most Teslas do.
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 07:20 PM
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The only way I know of is to not have the fob on your person and don't use the digital key, otherwise your phone will trigger it. This is one of those things that makes you wonder. These extending door handles seem an unnecessary gimmick that will just fail sooner or later. How much do they really improve aerodynamics when you have the mirrors sticking out way farther than the door handles. Also there are ways to design flush door handles w/o a complicated retracting mechanism that sometimes has a mind of its own.
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 07:26 PM
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The only way I know of is to not have the fob on your person and don't use the digital key, otherwise your phone will trigger it. This is one of those things that makes you wonder. These extending door handles seem an unnecessary gimmick that will just fail sooner or later. How much do they really improve aerodynamics when you have the mirrors sticking out way farther than the door handles. Also there are ways to design flush door handles w/o a complicated retracting mechanism that sometimes has a mind of its own.
I agree with you, but I'm sure people said similar things about power windows, locks, auto dimming mirrors, and countless other added complexity to cars as they have evolved over time. What is "good enough" will always be challenged and tested. Some ideas will fail while others will become standard on all cars.
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 08:35 PM
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I agree with you, but I'm sure people said similar things about power windows, locks, auto dimming mirrors, and countless other added complexity to cars as they have evolved over time. What is "good enough" will always be challenged and tested. Some ideas will fail while others will become standard on all cars.
I would disagree with the second part. The things you listed added convenience. I'm always for tech that makes life easier and improves the status quo. What convenience or improvements from the user's perspective do retracting door handles add? As far as I can see they make opening the doors more cumbersome, because sometimes they don't extend when they should, or extend when they shouldn't as in this case, and they feel quite terrible to hold actually. I accept that technology fails eventually, as long as it adds value while it works. My issues are with change for change's sake.

Also, I pretty much lived through all the examples you listed. They were pretty much all extra cost luxury features at first and people were willing to pay for them, because they added value. That's when you know that the change is a good one if people are actually willing to pay money for it. I'm sure some people probably would pay money for retractable door handles as there are people who pay for form over function, and don't mind looking like a fool when trying to open the doors and for some reason they don't extend.

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Originally Posted by L1Wolf
You are probably referring to the prior generations of the E-class. The W214 has flush handles that must extend to put your hand behind them before pulling them out to open the door. Just like the S-Class and most Teslas do.
Thanks for the clarification. I see now that my W212 is different. Sorry to distract.
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
I would disagree with the second part. The things you listed added convenience. I'm always for tech that makes life easier and improves the status quo. What convenience or improvements from the user's perspective do retracting door handles add? As far as I can see they make opening the doors more cumbersome, because sometimes they don't extend when they should. I accept that technology fails eventually, as long as it adds value while it works. My issues are with change for change's sake.
I figured you might 😉 as i was struggling to come up with an example similar to the handles. One could argue that the flush handles are more secure, but that would be a stretch. Yes, perhaps they are slightly more aerodynamic than more traditional handles, but thats a stretch too. They certanly look cool and it increases the wow factor, but that may be it.
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 10:21 PM
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I would like the option to keep it extended at all times as well, especially for those that want the more "traditional" experience come on MB, give us the option, it is just one line of code (I think?)

Plus it cost MB nothing (I think?) since they don't have to swap the handles back to the traditional ones.
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 09:30 AM
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The handles don't always extend, which is not an issue in summer, but in winter they don't respond to normal winter gloves. Don't like having to remove my gloves in Maine winters, or have to fumble with the fob wearing gloves. Another issue: I was wondering if there is some kind of safety limiter that will stop the retracting of the handle if resistance is felt. Let's say you approached the car, the handles extended, and then you waited too long before entering the car and the handles retracted. So I stuck a rag behind the handle and waited till the handles retracted. Crunched the rag good. I don't think it would break any bones but it would give a good solid pinch, especially if it was a child's hand behind the handle.
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 11:00 AM
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The handles don't always extend, which is not an issue in summer, but in winter they don't respond to normal winter gloves. Don't like having to remove my gloves in Maine winters, or have to fumble with the fob wearing gloves. Another issue: I was wondering if there is some kind of safety limiter that will stop the retracting of the handle if resistance is felt. Let's say you approached the car, the handles extended, and then you waited too long before entering the car and the handles retracted. So I stuck a rag behind the handle and waited till the handles retracted. Crunched the rag good. I don't think it would break any bones but it would give a good solid pinch, especially if it was a child's hand behind the handle.
I’m guessing it wouldn’t do that if you were touching it with your bare hand. I think it would sense the static electricity (or however it senses your touch) and would release?
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The handles don't always extend, which is not an issue in summer, but in winter they don't respond to normal winter gloves. Don't like having to remove my gloves in Maine winters, or have to fumble with the fob wearing gloves. Another issue: I was wondering if there is some kind of safety limiter that will stop the retracting of the handle if resistance is felt. Let's say you approached the car, the handles extended, and then you waited too long before entering the car and the handles retracted. So I stuck a rag behind the handle and waited till the handles retracted. Crunched the rag good. I don't think it would break any bones but it would give a good solid pinch, especially if it was a child's hand behind the handle.
With a hand behind the handle, it doesn't retract as the capacitive sensors in the handle will detect the hand. A rag is not conductive, so it won't get detected. Having said that, it does bring up the question of can you unlock the doors while wearing gloves? I'm asking, because I never wear gloves in the mild climate here. Gloves typically don't work with capacitive sensors as the fabric is not conductive, unless conductive material is especially woven into the fabric. Many gloves these days have at least one conductive fingertip, so you can use modern touchscreens, but the rest of the glove usually doesn't.
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With a hand behind the handle, it doesn't retract as the capacitive sensors in the handle will detect the hand. A rag is not conductive, so it won't get detected. Having said that, it does bring up the question of can you unlock the doors while wearing gloves? I'm asking, because I never wear gloves in the mild climate here. Gloves typically don't work with capacitive sensors as the fabric is not conductive, unless conductive material is especially woven into the fabric. Many gloves these days have at least one conductive fingertip, so you can use modern touchscreens, but the rest of the glove usually doesn't.
Wearing my normal leather, fabric lined winter gloves, the doors will not routinely unlock. I have to remove the glove. And none of the inside touch screens work with the glove either. Nor do the "hands on the steering wheel" sensors work--which I discovered when, not detecting my gloved hands, and after two warnings, tried to bring the car to a stop in the middle of the highway. My niece bought me a pair of lined leather glove which were supposed to work with touch activated systems. They fit more like driving gloves than winter gloves so are not as warm. But the door unlock works with them.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
With a hand behind the handle, it doesn't retract as the capacitive sensors in the handle will detect the hand. A rag is not conductive, so it won't get detected. Having said that, it does bring up the question of can you unlock the doors while wearing gloves? I'm asking, because I never wear gloves in the mild climate here. Gloves typically don't work with capacitive sensors as the fabric is not conductive, unless conductive material is especially woven into the fabric. Many gloves these days have at least one conductive fingertip, so you can use modern touchscreens, but the rest of the glove usually doesn't.
The handles on my E450 AT respond when I am wearing leather gloves or North Face capacitive gloves.
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With a hand behind the handle, it doesn't retract as the capacitive sensors in the handle will detect the hand. A rag is not conductive, so it won't get detected. Having said that, it does bring up the question of can you unlock the doors while wearing gloves? I'm asking, because I never wear gloves in the mild climate here. Gloves typically don't work with capacitive sensors as the fabric is not conductive, unless conductive material is especially woven into the fabric. Many gloves these days have at least one conductive fingertip, so you can use modern touchscreens, but the rest of the glove usually doesn't.
Since I can't unlock the doors using my regular winter gloves, does that mean it likely wouldn't detect my fingers behind the handle and would "crush" them? Don't think I'll test it since it did really squeeze the rag.... I wonder what activates the touch controls on Volvo's since I never had a glove issue with my V90.
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Since I can't unlock the doors using my regular winter gloves, does that mean it likely wouldn't detect my fingers behind the handle and would "crush" them? Don't think I'll test it since it did really squeeze the rag.... I wonder what activates the touch controls on Volvo's since I never had a glove issue with my V90.
Yes, if you can't unlock with the gloves then that means it's not detecting your fingers. I'm guessing there is a resistance sensor, so that it doesn't crush your fingers. A rag is pretty soft compared to the bones in your hand/fingers. I trust Mercedes thought this through a bit more than Tesla with the Cybertruck carrot slicing frunk and doors. Not sure what your Volvo's were using, but touch controls/screens before capacitive touch were resistive touch controls. These relied on pressure. It's why some people still instinctively press down on touchscreens these days, even though pressure has no function. Some technologies like Apples 3D touch combined capacitive touch with pressure touch to trigger different functions if you pressed down on the screen, but eventually they ended up discontinuing it.
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