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Right now 2023 EQB 250 and 300 models have been allocated. Order bank is open.
2023 EQB 350 model has not been allocated.
2022 model ordering and allocation is closed.
Interesting and thanks.
Is there any indication of when the 350 might be allocated?
Maybe I missed it but what is the miles range for 2023 EQB 300 and also for the 350?
Assuming you are in the USA, the EPA numbers have not been published. Yet.
Given the small(ish) size of the battery, weight of EQB, and non-aero shape I'd expect something in the low 200's. FWIW, the euro WLTP range is 260 miles and the EPA ratings are typically noticeably less due to different methodologies.
Assuming you are in the USA, the EPA numbers have not been published. Yet.
Given the small(ish) size of the battery, weight of EQB, and non-aero shape I'd expect something in the low 200's. FWIW, the euro WLTP range is 260 miles and the EPA ratings are typically noticeably less due to different methodologies.
Gotcha thanks. I wonder when the EPA ratings will be released.
Gotcha thanks. I wonder when the EPA ratings will be released.
Presumably, that should be soon as I don't believe they can sell anything until all the EPA boxes are checked. (IMHO, it's quite likely one of the reasons the Launch Date was delayed from July to August.)
Thanks Eaton, do these numbers take into consideration use of AC and other power drawing features?
Presumably, yes.
It turns out there are multiple methodologies permitted for EPA testing and manufacturers can select from the menu.
The German makes have been very conservative (so far) while others (cough, Tesla) have not. This is why the Germans typically do better in “real world” mileage compared to their EPA estimates.
My dealer told me today that about half of the EQBs are arriving in the United States without power seats due to a chip shortage.
I’m not sure I can shell out $60k+ (after taxes) for a Mercedes that doesn’t have something like power seats which comes standard in many $20k vehicles.
My dealer told me today that about half of the EQBs are arriving in the United States without power seats due to a chip shortage.
I’m not sure I can shell out $60k+ (after taxes) for a Mercedes that doesn’t have something like power seats which comes standard in many $20k vehicles.
Re-considering now…
That is somewhat concerning. Obviously the seat control buttons on the door are a signature look of Mercedes, so what happens to those buttons?
That is somewhat concerning. Obviously the seat control buttons on the door are a signature look of Mercedes, so what happens to those buttons?
No idea. I would encourage you to contact your dealer and find out if this is true. And report back of course
I’m not completely certain the dealer I talked to is correct on this. I can’t imagine a Mercedes having a lever to adjust seats like old 2008 Toyota’s had. And that too a brand new electric model.
I can understand if the power seats were taken away for the passenger side or something but even including the drivers side is pretty crazy to me.
That is somewhat concerning. Obviously the seat control buttons on the door are a signature look of Mercedes, so what happens to those buttons?
Originally Posted by Jay1188
No idea. I would encourage you to contact your dealer and find out if this is true. And report back of course
I’m not completely certain the dealer I talked to is correct on this. I can’t imagine a Mercedes having a lever to adjust seats like old 2008 Toyota’s had. And that too a brand new electric model.
I can understand if the power seats were taken away for the passenger side or something but even including the drivers side is pretty crazy to me.
I had a GLB loaner 1:4 times that lacked power seats. The buttons in the door were flush metal (no buttons).
I have also seen one model with a $750 discount for no power seats. That struck me as insufficient when you amortize the value of that feature over ten years ($75yr) and I would not buy that car.
I am sure that Mercedes would rather build the cars full of features and hold delivery until chips=demand. The CHIPS Act in the US is stalled out - I think every country and manufacturers need to be adjusting their supply chains given China’s failure to be reliable (and their alleged use of child labor for cobalt and lithium).
We are learning that there is much to be said for mechanical features - levers for doors and seats, and modest stereos and clocks. The problem is we have been led to believe we can’t survive without luxury. But the new luxury is reliability and possession.
I had a GLB loaner 1:4 times that lacked power seats. The buttons in the door were flush metal (no buttons).
I have also seen one model with a $750 discount for no power seats. That struck me as insufficient when you amortize the value of that feature over ten years ($75yr) and I would not buy that car.
I am sure that Mercedes would rather build the cars full of features and hold delivery until chips=demand. The CHIPS Act in the US is stalled out - I think every country and manufacturers need to be adjusting their supply chains given China’s failure to be reliable (and their alleged use of child labor for cobalt and lithium).
We are learning that there is much to be said for mechanical features - levers for doors and seats, and modest stereos and clocks. The problem is we have been led to believe we can’t survive without luxury. But the new luxury is reliability and possession.
I wouldn’t mind using levers but not on a freaking $60k car.
If they want to bring the price of the EQB down to say $30k then sure by all means I’ll take the manual lever seats adjusters.
If they take away power seats today, who’s to say they won’t take away power windows tomorrow? Are you gonna be okay with those old crank handles? Are we going back into the past now?
I wouldn’t mind using levers but not on a freaking $60k car.
If they want to bring the price of the EQB down to say $30k then sure by all means I’ll take the manual lever seats adjusters.
If they take away power seats today, who’s to say they won’t take away power windows tomorrow? Are you gonna be okay with those old crank handles? Are we going back into the past now?
They certainly aren’t selling me a stripped down car.
thanks for the updated version. I placed an order (US, DC area) last week with a dealer and there were a bunch of options on the dealers order page that are not mentioned in this order guide. E.g. illuminated star sign, adaptive suspension, park guard, spoiler in paint color, parking assistant, dash cam etc.
the order page of the dealer still had no prices so not sure if any of the options are actually available or not but it is very confusing that so close??? to the launch of this vehicle in the US nobody seems to know much about it.
You would not be able to get the illuminated star sign if you order the drive assistance package. Because the DISTRONIC PLUS that comes in the DA package requires some sort of radar/sensor behind the Mercedes sign and that wouldn’t be possible if you got the illuminated star option.
Without the DA package though, you should be able to get the illuminated star.
To those who have researched the adaptive suspension, is that Airmatic?
No. It's adaptive dampers (aka variable shock absorbers) with traditional steel springs and not the Airmatic bags. Basically, they can use more complaint springs for better ride comfort without it bouncing down the highway by precisely controlling the rebound on a microsecond basis. At the other extreme, they can also make the shock so stiff that it's effectively an additional, and much firmer, spring when sport modes are engaged.
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No. It's adaptive dampers (aka variable shock absorbers) with traditional steel springs and not the Airmatic bags. Basically, they can use more complaint springs for better ride comfort without it bouncing down the highway by precisely controlling the rebound on a microsecond basis. At the other extreme, they can also make the shock so stiff that it's effectively an additional, and much firmer, spring when sport modes are engaged.
thanks! I don’t think I’ve been on a car with adaptive dampers, I guess I’ll have to test drive one when it comes out.
I’m considering the EQB, i4 and the EQE and ride comfort is a primary must have but I love the EQBs size and utility. I had a c350e with the airmatic and I loved the ride especially at high speeds, it had that nice waft at same time super stable
thanks! I don’t think I’ve been on a car with adaptive dampers, I guess I’ll have to test drive one when it comes out.
I’m considering the EQB, i4 and the EQE and ride comfort is a primary must have but I love the EQBs size and utility. I had a c350e with the airmatic and I loved the ride especially at high speeds, it had that nice waft at same time super stable
Ditto, we love the ride of the Airmatic in our GL350.
Virtually every review I've read has praised the EQB's ride, while at the same time it seems that MB's press pool uses cars with the adaptive suspension. It was an easy "yes" when configuring our options.
Question for those that have already placed an order…when your order was placed, did you receive some sort of order confirmation form or something of the sort?
Question for those that have already placed an order…when your order was placed, did you receive some sort of order confirmation form or something of the sort?
Yeah I got that too but nothing official with like my name and information on it along with the date order submitted and that kinda stuff. Perhaps that’s not the routine for Mercedes orders, I’ve never custom ordered one like this before.
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