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Old 08-09-2022, 11:05 AM
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He is not 100% sure, But as per him Mercedes decided sometime earlier this year for CLA/GLA/GLB total of around 500K cars to not include power seats.
That is correct, and was due to microchip supply issues. And that total also included a number of 2022 EQBs destined for the USA.

Note that the power seat issue was earlier reported resolved for 2023 models. I also watched the video with the MB trainer demo car (below) and it was mentioned that 3rd row seats are also restricted in allocation. That particular 2022 EQB also does not have power seats.

FWIW, our 2023 350 Prestige is scheduled for production next week and as of yesterday it still has the sunroof, power seats, and 3rd row.


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"the domestic assembly requirement goes into effect immediately upon enactment of the bill, so foreign-made EVs will need a signed purchase order before that time in order to qualify for the current credit"

Hello guys, let's figure out a way to sign a binding contract with the dealership this week in order to secure the 7500
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Just got a heads up from my dealer, You can not get Panoramic roof in any trim of EQBI(some fulfillment issue), I think with all these issues and no tax credit, Model Y, making much more sense now.

I just got an updated build sheet for my 2022 EQB 300 and it has the panoramic roof as an added option. No power seats though. We’ll make a decision once the car arrives—hopefully later this month.
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ILoveNY
"the domestic assembly requirement goes into effect immediately upon enactment of the bill, so foreign-made EVs will need a signed purchase order before that time in order to qualify for the current credit"

Hello guys, let's figure out a way to sign a binding contract with the dealership this week in order to secure the 7500
See the attached. This is what I’m using with my dealer; you’ll likely want/need to modify it. Rivian has a similar contract available online that we borrowed a lot from.

Hope this helps, I’d recommend getting it signed ASAP.
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Old 08-13-2022, 10:27 AM
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Cadetdriver - Update us on your 2023 EQB 350 Prestige

Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
That is correct, and was due to microchip supply issues. And that total also included a number of 2022 EQBs destined for the USA.

Note that the power seat issue was earlier reported resolved for 2023 models. I also watched the video with the MB trainer demo car (below) and it was mentioned that 3rd row seats are also restricted in allocation. That particular 2022 EQB also does not have power seats.

FWIW, our 2023 350 Prestige is scheduled for production next week and as of yesterday it still has the sunroof, power seats, and 3rd row.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoEYFNzOUgw
Last week you anticipated your vehicle was going into production on August 15? Did it? Did you get a VIN? Where is "final assembly"? thanks!
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Last week you anticipated your vehicle was going into production on August 15? Did it? Did you get a VIN? Where is "final assembly"? thanks!
Last word was production on Aug 18th, and have not received an update about a VIN (yet).

Final assembly for all EQBs in the USA is the MB factory in Kecskemét, Hungary. This is also noted on the build sheet for our order.



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i believe i'm also missing power seats on a 2022 EQB I reserved. It is due for delivery any time this month.
Does anyone know exactly what these codes on my equipment sheet maps to?
D8A: credit for missing standard CREDITd01U
D9A: credit for Missing Standard CREDIT ic Front Seats
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Originally Posted by cdstrife
i believe i'm also missing power seats on a 2022 EQB I reserved. It is due for delivery any time this month.
Does anyone know exactly what these codes on my equipment sheet maps to?
D8A: credit for missing standard CREDITd01U
D9A: credit for Missing Standard CREDIT ic Front Seats
I'm also gonna assume power seats. FWIW, and on the GLB, code 01U is Navigation Services (whatever that means) as it is a different code than the nav system itself.

You dealer should be able to clearly explain both.
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I am kind of inclined towards Vinfast VF9

VF9 specs and features are really great, not missing a single feature from any competitive luxury cars, like soft Auto door close,

And Cherry on the cake: 7500 credit guaranteed!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vinfa...190520324.html

Its just for California for now, But I'll pay for delivery to New Jersey.
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Originally Posted by amanb
VF9 specs and features are really great, not missing a single feature from any competitive luxury cars, like soft Auto door close,

And Cherry on the cake: 7500 credit guaranteed!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vinfa...190520324.html

Its just for California for now, But I'll pay for delivery to New Jersey.
Yikes.

Personally, I would not want to own a car from a startup OEM where the nearest service/parts is >2000 miles away.
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Originally Posted by amanb
VF9 specs and features are really great, not missing a single feature from any competitive luxury cars, like soft Auto door close,

And Cherry on the cake: 7500 credit guaranteed!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vinfa...190520324.html

Its just for California for now, But I'll pay for delivery to New Jersey.
Isn’t this the company where you won’t even own the battery of the vehicle that you purchase and you basically have to pay a subscription fee for it?

Yeah, hard pass for me.
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Originally Posted by cdstrife
i believe i'm also missing power seats on a 2022 EQB I reserved. It is due for delivery any time this month.
Does anyone know exactly what these codes on my equipment sheet maps to?
D8A: credit for missing standard CREDITd01U
D9A: credit for Missing Standard CREDIT ic Front Seats
01u is the navigation services, which is not navigation but i understand it as some of the online services. I’ve never seen a clear explanation before. Interesting spec though! I love to see the drivers assist and third row but it’s cool to see traffic sign assist as a stand-alone (presumably necessary for drivers assist) and it’s also cool to see a base trim with no keyless go, the lesser of three audio systems, etc.

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My dealership provided me a VIN number.

Do u think I secured the 7500 credit?

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Originally Posted by ILoveNY
My dealership provided me a VIN number.

Do u think I secured the 7500 credit?
That is between you and the IRS. In the event of an audit you will need to provide documentation (i.e. signed contract) dated prior to the effective date of the new rules, which will happen sometime this week with Biden's signature. (I have not seen a published announcement for the signing ceremony. Yet.)

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Originally Posted by ILoveNY
My dealership provided me a VIN number.

Do u think I secured the 7500 credit?

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No, you would need proof of purchase. A buyers order from the dealership showing paid in full.
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That is between you and the IRS. In the event of an audit you will need to provide documentation (i.e. signed contract) dated prior to the effective date of the new rules, which will happen sometime this week with Biden's signature. (I have not seen a published announcement for the signing ceremony. Yet.)
MBUSA sent out a bulletin that they expect the signing to be tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by mercedesmax
A buyers order from the dealership showing paid in full.
^ ^ ^
I do not believe this is correct.

The exact language from the new law states:

(1) after December 31, 2021, and before the date of enactment of this Act, purchased, or entered into a written binding contract to purchase, a new qualified plug-in electric drive motor vehicle.
A contract to purchase does not require payment in full prior to delivery. There is an excellent example of a suitable contract to purchase earlier in this thread, and FWIW, my dealer provided a fairly similar document that was parsed by their legal folks. When I spoke with them today they laughed that I was squawking about it before anybody else and now they have completed a couple dozen.

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MBUSA sent out a bulletin that they expect the signing to be tomorrow.
Hi what is the bulletin?
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^ ^ ^
I do not believe this is correct.

The exact language from the new law states:



A contract to purchase does not require payment in full prior to delivery. There is an excellent example of a suitable contract to purchase earlier in this thread, and FWIW, my dealer provided a fairly similar document that was parsed by their legal folks. When I spoke with them today they laughed that I was squawking about it before anybody else and now they have completed a couple dozen.
Only thing I will say is that when it comes to car purchases there is no such thing as a "binding" contract. As people on the G Wagen forum have found out. Paying for the car completes the deal.
Maybe the IRS would accept a dummy contract and maybe they won't.
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Get purchase order inked and then

Originally Posted by ILoveNY
My dealership provided me a VIN number.

Do u think I secured the 7500 credit?

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With a purchase order and the VIN, yes.
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Maybe the IRS would accept a dummy contract and maybe they won't.
FWIW, it's not just a Mercedes problem.

Rivian, Lucid rush to help buyers with existing EV tax credit before it expires - Rivian and Lucid buyers might have only until President Biden signs the Inflation Reduction Act to qualify for the outgoing credit.
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This article from Automotive News is behind a paywall, but here's the critical excerpt:

Buyers who have a 'written binding contract' to purchase a qualified EV before the Inflation Reduction Act becomes law will be able to apply under the current IRC 30D tax requirements," Rivian said. The EV startup provided a link for customers interested in signing a contract.
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The debate is over - Mercedes email sums it up

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so does it mean that MB confirmed all Tax Credit for EQB is gone for good?
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Originally Posted by ILoveNY
so does it mean that MB confirmed all Tax Credit for EQB is gone for good?
Yes, until either the law or MB's manufacturing location for final assembly and/or battery supplies change.

FWIW, The new law has replaced the previous $7500 tax credit with two concurrent $3750 rebates based on final assembly location and battery sourcing. Some vehicles will be eligible for one, both, or neither (like the EQB). There are also new limits for personal income and vehicle prices that will eliminate many MB models and customers.

This is why the upcoming MB EQE SUV (assembled in Alabama) will most likely be eligible while the the EQS sedan (made in Germany) is not.

The President is signing the bill today, so the well known $7500 EV tax credit is GONE. We don't have official IRS guidance (yet) on the transition process included with the new law, so now it's wait and see for those of us with documented contracts prior to enactment. But fingers crossed we have the proper documentation and eligibility.
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First time poster - I have been searching for a place to compare notes with fellow EQB future buyers. I, like many of you, have been stressed about the impending IRA legislation its effects on the $7500 tax credit. My dealership has been completely in the dark and I have been sending THEM updates. Here is my situation:

Put down a $1000 deposit on 6/23/22 on an incoming 2022 EQB 300 that has already been built and is just sitting at the port in Baltimore. Based on the sales sheet, I can confirm it does not have power seats and I'm receiving a credit of $700 for this missing feature. Based on everything I'm seeing on paper, there is nothing to indicate an issue with the panoramic sunroof, which was mentioned earlier in this thread. I expect the vehicle to be equipped with the sunroof.

On 7/29/22, I convinced my dealership to provide a signed buyer's guide / purchase order. This PO contained the VIN, final pricing including tax, title, license, etc. and has been signed by the dealership. I felt good about being locked into the tax credit with this documentation.

Earlier today, my dealer sent me the official memo that was posted earlier today. The memo clearly denotes that the EQB loses its tax credit once the bill is signed into law, which happened earlier today. The memo is completely silent in regards to the transition rule, which of course is leaving me quite uneasy. I asked my dealership to follow up on the memo (there is an email address for them to contact with questions) and specifically ask about the transition rule. I'll post a follow up if I receive a response.

I had resigned myself to accepting the lack of power seats, but a big part of that was knowing I could apply the tax credit to this year's returns. Furthermore, I didn't realize until I read this thread the MY23 models would all have power seats. So now I'm faced with a tough decision where I'm not 100% sure I'll actually get the tax credit, and without it I would certainly prefer to just wait it out and order a fully customized MY23 model.

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