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Old Sep 2, 2022 | 09:22 AM
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EQB 300 and 350 In the Wild

The EQB models have begun to ship. We just received four, a mix of 300 and 350 models.

If you had one sitting at the VPC you'll likely see it soon barring any issues. These moved quickly from VPC release to delivery.




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Old Sep 2, 2022 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CincyMBGuy
The EQB models have begun to ship. We just received four, a mix of 300 and 350 models.

If you had one sitting at the VPC you'll likely see it soon barring any issues. These moved quickly from VPC release to delivery.



What dealership are you at? I have an EQB300 ordered through MB Fort Mitchell in northern KY.
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Old Sep 2, 2022 | 01:47 PM
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What dealership are you at? I have an EQB300 ordered through MB Fort Mitchell in northern KY.
I'm just across the river at their nearest competitor.

I know at the height of Covid shortages they had a minimum of $5k ADMs on every vehicle, is that still the case?
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Old Sep 2, 2022 | 01:51 PM
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I'm just across the river at their nearest competitor.

I know at the height of Covid shortages they had a minimum of $5k ADMs on every vehicle, is that still the case?
No, there wasn’t any dealer markup applied to my order other than the $900 ceramic coating expense. I placed my order back in late June for one of the 300’s that had already been built and allocated to them. The mountain gray in your photo looks exactly like mine (including the wheels) and I was hoping that was my future vehicle. But, alas, it is not. ☹️
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Old Sep 3, 2022 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CMD_77
No, there wasn’t any dealer markup applied to my order other than the $900 ceramic coating expense. I placed my order back in late June for one of the 300’s that had already been built and allocated to them. The mountain gray in your photo looks exactly like mine (including the wheels) and I was hoping that was my future vehicle. But, alas, it is not. ☹️
Drum roll: I ordered an EQB350.

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Old Sep 3, 2022 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CMD_77
No, there wasn’t any dealer markup applied to my order other than the $900 ceramic coating expense. I placed my order back in late June for one of the 300’s that had already been built and allocated to them. The mountain gray in your photo looks exactly like mine (including the wheels) and I was hoping that was my future vehicle. But, alas, it is not. ☹️
You should have checked us first! No mandatory ceramic coating here!
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Old Sep 3, 2022 | 06:55 PM
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looking forward to real world range tests. The low range is the only thing holding me back (also the loss the $7500 EV credit)
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Old Sep 3, 2022 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bugelrex
looking forward to real world range tests. The low range is the only thing holding me back (also the loss the $7500 EV credit)
Obviously range varies wildly with speed in any EV, and one can go much farther in mixed suburban/city driving than on the interstate.

Here's a test of highway range of a EQB 350 in Norway conducted in winter with temps around 0C (32F):


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@ 90kph (56mph) = 332km (206 mi)
@120kph (75mph) = 234km (145 mi)

I'm gonna conclude that the USA EPA ratings are spot on for real world mixed suburban/city/highway.
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$60k+ with manual seat adjustments. You gotta be kidding me!
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$60k+ with manual seat adjustments. You gotta be kidding me!
One more reason to wait for a 2023 and not a 2022 built during the chip shortages, and that's not just an EQB issue.
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
One more reason to wait for a 2023 and not a 2022 built during the chip shortages, and that's not just an EQB issue.
Mercedes can have a real Model Y contender here.. if they increase the range significantly... think it just a matter a time

If EQS SUV 4Matic is priced at 125k, the EQE 4Matic SUV is probably closer to 90k. Would definitely consider a EQB with 300 mile range at 70k
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Originally Posted by bugelrex
Mercedes can have a real Model Y contender here.. if they increase the range significantly... think it just a matter a time

If EQS SUV 4Matic is priced at 125k, the EQE 4Matic SUV is probably closer to 90k. Would definitely consider a EQB with 300 mile range at 70k
They will with the next-generation EQC which will be built from the ground up as a fully electric vehicle. The EQB (as well as EQA and Euro EQC) are more so stop gap cars to help with emissions and credits.
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Old Sep 5, 2022 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Obviously range varies wildly with speed in any EV, and one can go much farther in mixed suburban/city driving than on the interstate.

Here's a test of highway range of a EQB 350 in Norway conducted in winter with temps around 0C (32F):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbLL74uObwg

TL;DR

@ 90kph (56mph) = 332km (206 mi)
@120kph (75mph) = 234km (145 mi)

I'm gonna conclude that the USA EPA ratings are spot on for real world mixed suburban/city/highway.
I think for those us needing or wanting an electric SUV instead of the E400 wagon, the EQB is coming in strong. Energy efficiency compares to that of much smaller BMW i4 and here we have a test at speeds and in winter conditions in comfort mode.

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One more reason to wait for a 2023 and not a 2022 built during the chip shortages, and that's not just an EQB issue.
I have a model year 2023 EQB300 being built this week in theory. Has anyone heard definitively if the 23 EQBs are getting power seats?
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I have a model year 2023 EQB300 being built this week in theory. Has anyone heard definitively if the 23 EQBs are getting power seats?
It's a toss up on availability. Not all 2022 models came without power seats but from what I've seen it is most.
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I have a model year 2023 EQB300 being built this week in theory. Has anyone heard definitively if the 23 EQBs are getting power seats?
I’m in the same boat as you and our 2023 EQB350 supposedly entered production two weeks ago. My dealer does not have any updates on the production status, VIN, and or the configuration actually built vs. ordered. The issues with Netstar do not help, I’m sure, but we’re waiting with baited breath.

Re: Power Seats for 2023

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If u look at the IRS interpretation of the new tax law it qualifies on delivery THIS YEAR
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If u look at the IRS interpretation of the new tax law it qualifies on delivery THIS YEAR
Yes, but with a significant caveat: one must have signed a binding purchase agreement prior to August 16, 2022.

IRS guidance:
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/plug-...30-and-irc-30d
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Yes, but with a significant caveat: one must have signed a binding purchase agreement prior to August 16, 2022.

IRS guidance:
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check out 2 paragraphs down from your own reference and u will see that just the opposite is true. IRS makes things very confusing lol

Vehicles Purchased and Delivered between August 16, 2022 and December 31, 2022

If you purchase and take possession of a qualifying electric vehicle after August 16, 2022 and before January 1, 2023, aside from the final assembly requirement, the rules in effect before the enactment of the Inflation Reduction Act for the EV credit apply (including those involving the manufacturing caps on vehicles sold). If you entered into a written binding contract to purchase a new qualifying vehicle before August 16, 2022, see the rule above.

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check out 2 paragraphs down from your own reference and u will see that just the opposite is true. IRS makes things very confusing lol
I'm not sure which paragraph you are specifically referencing?

Critically, please note that all EQBs for sale in the USA are assembled at the Mercedes plant in Kecskemét, Hungary. The new final assembly location requirement went into effect the moment the law was signed, which is why sales contracts signed prior to August 16 are 'grandfathered' with the transition rule referenced on the IRS website. Going forward, the EQB is completely ineligible for the revised tax credits. This could change in the future if Mercedes moves final assembly for both the vehicle and battery to North America, but moves like that take years to execute.
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
I'm not sure which paragraph you are specifically referencing?

Critically, please note that all EQBs for sale in the USA are assembled at the Mercedes plant in Kecskemét, Hungary. The new final assembly location requirement went into effect the moment the law was signed, which is why sales contracts signed prior to August 16 are 'grandfathered' with the transition rule referenced on the IRS website. Going forward, the EQB is completely ineligible for the revised tax credits. This could change in the future if Mercedes moves final assembly for both the vehicle and battery to North America, but moves like that take years to execute.
Will be shocking if MB sales person is honest and upfront that EQB will NOT be eligible for the tax credit (unless grandfathered). Average joe consumer is pretty clueless and not up to date.
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Will be shocking if MB sales person is honest and upfront that EQB will NOT be eligible for the tax credit (unless grandfathered). Average joe consumer is pretty clueless and not up to date.
Why does almost this entire forum jump to the conclusion that MB SA's are liars or snakes? MB buyers are typically repeat customers. You don't get that by lying to everyone who comes through the door.
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Originally Posted by CincyMBGuy
Why does almost this entire forum jump to the conclusion that MB SA's are liars or snakes? MB buyers are typically repeat customers. You don't get that by lying to everyone who comes through the door.
Totally agree. They were never responsible for federal tax laws. The only person to blame for this idiotic mid-year game changing law is the President of the United States.
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Originally Posted by CincyMBGuy
Why does almost this entire forum jump to the conclusion that MB SA's are liars or snakes? MB buyers are typically repeat customers. You don't get that by lying to everyone who comes through the door.
There is a difference between lying and omitting. The MB sales person is under no obligation to tell the buyer that it's no longer eligible. Not a lie, but certainly a HUGE difference in cost to the buyer if they are not aware.

And yes, the mid-year change was totally STUPID and confusing for everyone. I suppose mid-year tax law changes are coming next
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Totally agree. They were never responsible for federal tax laws. The only person to blame for this idiotic mid-year game changing law is the President of the United States.
Kindly request we keep this forum from political criticism. We’re here to share our love for cars, not politics .
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