1st winter / snow fall with the EQE and the drive to the office was a mess! Normal turns were major fishtails, strong recup was making me slide all over. Have the 4Matic and had it on my gas Benz 350 4 matic but was never this bad.

Most of the snow is cleared but some road are just lightly covered and I spin out. Have the all weather rubber that came with it in March of this year.

Think I need snow tires or are my all weathers that shot?

Anyone else have issues?

 

What tire brand is on the vehicle? How many miles on the vehicle? You should not be using Strong Recuperation on snowy conditions. Also, the drive program should be dialed down as well to Slippery mode. That will reduce the power being delivered to the wheels.

 

Yikes. Hopefully it’s a tire issue, and not an EV issue.

 

Indeed. I would avoid any regen on slippery roads.

 

Curious...you in ME? We just got back from there today (left a day early). Three cars were on the side of 95 east of Bangor...all Teslas. Never saw not one charging station. EV in Maine might be a whole new beast.

 

6400 miles on the car, Bridgestone Turzana, 19’s.

I’ll see if that helps with the drive mode.

I’m in MI.

 

Which model of the tires. There are multiple versions on TireRack for all-season Bridgestones

 

@stc1996 What is the tread depth at this point?

 

Regardless of the specific model, the Turanza is an all-season, not an all-weather tire. Big difference. All-season tires for the most part are essentially crap on snow. There are some all-season tires that are rated for snow such as the Conti DWS or the Michelin CrossClimate. The rest of them are essentially three season tires. They do well in the cold and wet, but not on snow and/or ice. So first issue is likely the type of tires. Second issue is while instant torque is fun in the summer, that's not what you want on slippery roads. Easing in the torque is what you want. So as suggested above already, put the drive program in Slippery mode. This should reduce the torque delivery to make a spinout less likely. Lastly as already said, under no circumstances use recuperation on slippery roads. Put it in the least recuperation mode and gently use the brakes to slow down. This is essentially the same lesson that those of us were thought when we first learned driving cars with manual transmission. You never wanna downshift on a slippery surface as the engine braking may cause the tires to lock up and slide out under the car. We learned to declutch and gently slow the car down with the brakes.

And the most important thing to know with AWD is that AWD doesn't help you stop or steer the car. Driving in the snow comes all down to tires.

 

@stc1996 , I'll point you to this thread about snow performance, albeit with the SUV. My experience was identical with the sedan: https://mbworld.org/forums/eqe-suv-x...ance-snow.html

To summarize, the EVs are sublime in the snow. However, you *really* need good traction. In the above article, I had new sets of tires, and they performed above average in the snow for all-season tires. This winter, we have a set of Nokian WRG5 all-weather tires on our SUV. We haven't had much snow yet, just a couple of inches in Louisville, KY so far, but good contact patch makes all the difference. We used to put Bridgestone Blizzaks on our combustion SUVs (GLE 300d) before we switched to EQEs, but given the weather we typically have, I'm happy to be on a set of the all-weather tires. As @superswiss said just before, all-seasons are generally garbage on snow or ice. This is extra true when cornering with the added weight.

Some extra tips: Set the car to Sport mode. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but it permanently engages the front disconnect unit if you have a MY24 or newer car. Just really be aware of your throttle inputs. If you have '23, just leave it in Comfort. Either way, 4Matic engages lightning quick - so much less drama than with a combustion car. And yes, definitely use no recuperation, as it lets you coast gradually as needed. Just be aware that even in "no recuperation", the first half of pedal travel is regen. If your car starts to slip during regen, ABS will engage but require you to push much farther on the brake pedal, as the regen mostly goes away at that point. Once you figure it out, it's a piece of cake. I love driving these cars in the snow, the instant torque makes behavior very predictable, and the even weight distribution makes it very even around corners if done right.

But, most of all, make sure you have appropriate tires! It's the most important thing you can have, especially on a car with that much torque.

 

Does EQS have a slippery mode like on some amg?

 

Right on. And, all season means all season if you live in Alabama or New Mexico. These are monster snow cars with the proper tires.

 

There is also something called All weather tires now.

There is also this thing, not even sure what it really is:

 

Cross Climate 2

 

no sorry for the confusion my question is not sure if it really is sold as all season or secretly a all weather tire.

 

CC2 is sold as all-weather. Competes with Nokian WRG5 and a few others. My dad has CC2s, we have WRG5. Both great options.

 

Officially, Michelin calls it an All-Season. It's an M+S tire, but with 3PMSF rating, complete with the actual Three Peak Mountain Snowflake symbol on the sidewall. Basically unless the tire has that symbol on the sidewall, it is not for driving in the snow.

https://www.michelinman.com/auto/tir...-crossclimate2

 

And it's an all-weather/season tire that performs exceptionally well in snow/ice, and decent dry weather too.

 

This sure is confusing : /

 

Precisely the INTENT of modern-day marketing, in my opinion. Designed to confuse, dupe and deceive.

 

I guess at the end of the day better off to get two sets. Summer for well, summer and winter for winter. All season is a compromise when it comes to performance anyways during the summer.

 

To confuse further, in Europe, "All-weather" tires are called "all season" tires. What we in the US market call an all-season tire isn't sold there really anymore, as far as I understand. Given that snowy climates are common, pretty much everything there is all-weather, so they just call it all-season. The Tyre Reviews YouTube channel often mentions this to avoid further confusions among subscribers of the channel.

 

I wonder how much the CC2 tires reduce the range of the vehicle. I haven't seen any comparison to the summer EV tires.

 

Yeah, basically there is All-Season and then there is All-Season with M+S rating (Mud and Snow). The latter is essentially what's referred to as All-Weather. In Europe you only really get M+S tires, full winter and summer tires. In the USA we have this All-Season thing, because there are places that can get cold and wet, but don't have snow or mud. Summer tires as many know are essentially no good below 40-45F, but unless you actually get snow where you live, going to a full winter tire just because it gets cold isn't all that great. So the All-Season tire kinda covers that segment.

I put the CC2 on my wife's car. Technically, summer tires is all I need here and my AMG is on summer tires all year, but her car is kind of our beater, city car and occasional winter car if we drive up to Lake Tahoe. So the CC2 is an amazing tire for that. Past All-Season tires were crap in actual winter conditions up in Tahoe. I guess you can think of it this way, just because there are 4 seasons, doesn't mean there is snow and ice during the winter. If you do get snow and ice, then you want the tires to say M+S on the sidewall, or have 3PMSF rating if you wanna avoid chain control with AWD.

 

My dealer gave me a good price on a set of dedicated winter alloy wheels with Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 Tires when I ordered my car. So far, I think their performance in the snow has been great. And they are surprisingly quiet.