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Most V3 and all V3+ Tesla Superchargers works with Mercedes EQ vehicles

Old Dec 28, 2024 | 02:00 PM
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Most V3 and all V3+ Tesla Superchargers works with Mercedes EQ vehicles

I’ve been road tripping quite a bit this holiday season and all that I’ve been using are Tesla superchargers (non-MagicDock) as long as you use an Approved NACS to CCS1 adapter the experience is great!

When power sharing with just one vehicle you’d not see Derated charging but with 2 other Tesla plugging in you’d notice slight Derate. But since Tesla just peaks and falls rather quickly the impact going from 1 to 80 is just extended by 2 mins.

older V3 stations and V2 converted to V3 station don’t work although they show up as open to Non-Tesla.

Supercharger V3 power sharing with one other Tesla.
Supercharger V3 power sharing with one other Tesla.
Supercharging with dedicated power
Supercharging with dedicated power
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Old Dec 28, 2024 | 02:22 PM
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Which adapter are you using so I can buy the same one for my new Grecale Folgore?
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Old Dec 28, 2024 | 02:31 PM
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The adapter is suggest would be Tesla/Rivian, Ford/Lectron or A2Z Pro.

I tried charging with all the manufacturer adapters including Kia, gen1 ford/tesla and the infamous Nissan
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Old Dec 28, 2024 | 03:03 PM
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I guess I'm going to go with a Lectron. But there really isn't any way for them to know if I'm using an "approved" by management adapter or not. Only thing in it are temp sensors and cutoff switches:

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Old Dec 28, 2024 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EQEBlue
I’ve been road tripping quite a bit this holiday season and all that I’ve been using are Tesla superchargers (non-MagicDock) as long as you use an Approved NACS to CCS1 adapter the experience is great!
Love the color of your car, is this the first time we've seen a photo? Also, does every EQ customer now have access? I don't see the stations showing up in the Mercedes-Benz app, haven't checked in the car, but didn't see them showing up earlier today, so without preconditioning, it may not be as useful. No news articles confirming it, so I wonder if some stations are in testing mode, as is what happened with Rivian a week or so before they opened up to all cars. Wonder if MB needs to upgrade our nav unit or if the stations just show up as all the new stations around here just automatically did. I'd guess the latter is the case. I saw someone claiming to charge with an Audi two days ago, and they're after MB in the order, so that may lend credence to the testing mode theory.
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Old Dec 28, 2024 | 07:41 PM
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Tried the local supercharger by my neighborhood and just got the flashing red lights.
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Old Dec 29, 2024 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
Tried the local supercharger by my neighborhood and just got the flashing red lights.
Same here! What's the magic incantation to allow charging at the Tesla chargers?
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Tesla says Mercedes is "coming soon" -- wasn't soon enough for me -- so does look like you guys are next in line!


https://www.tesla.com/findus?bounds=..._superchargers
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Originally Posted by EQEBlue
I’ve been road tripping quite a bit this holiday season and all that I’ve been using are Tesla superchargers (non-MagicDock) as long as you use an Approved NACS to CCS1 adapter the experience is great!
How do they handle the billing?
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Old Dec 30, 2024 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
Love the color of your car, is this the first time we've seen a photo? Also, does every EQ customer now have access? I don't see the stations showing up in the Mercedes-Benz app, haven't checked in the car, but didn't see them showing up earlier today, so without preconditioning, it may not be as useful. No news articles confirming it, so I wonder if some stations are in testing mode, as is what happened with Rivian a week or so before they opened up to all cars. Wonder if MB needs to upgrade our nav unit or if the stations just show up as all the new stations around here just automatically did. I'd guess the latter is the case. I saw someone claiming to charge with an Audi two days ago, and they're after MB in the order, so that may lend credence to the testing mode theory.
With GM getting Tesla access, they broke the Tesla gate keeping since GM vehicles cannot do any identity communication.

regarding MB nav updates those haven’t come thru but I bet it would a hot pile when it does, since MB nav is a courtesy of Nokia Here maps i.e Here Maps which are easily the worst.

The hold up I believe is Mercedes trying to get Tesla billing under the Mercedes me charge $80/yr yearly subscription.
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Old Dec 30, 2024 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
Tried the local supercharger by my neighborhood and just got the flashing red lights.
This goes back to my quote on needing to be a newer V3 supercharger or the V3+ sites.

since Tesla does billing in car rather than at the station at point of dispensing. Some of the old dispensers don’t have per connector energy meter and we can’t charge there.
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Old Dec 30, 2024 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EQEBlue
This goes back to my quote on needing to be a newer V3 supercharger or the V3+ sites.

since Tesla does billing in car rather than at the station at point of dispensing. Some of the old dispensers don’t have per connector energy meter and we can’t charge there.
OK, I get the need to use V3 or V3+, but where do they ask for your CC? Tesla app? MB app?
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Originally Posted by HBerman
Same here! What's the magic incantation to allow charging at the Tesla chargers?
Just the Tesla app and an approve adapter (for your safety)

Set your car as Nissan or GM or Honda/Acura and go to one of the charger pins that appear on your screen (do make sure your are going to one that relatively new, Old V3 superchargers though they appear as compatible does NOT work)

It makes our EQs charge so much faster and better since Tesla superchargers are optimized for high current vending unlike Electrify America and EVgo derating few mins after 500A dispense with the Chargingstation and down arrow icon on display.
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Old Dec 30, 2024 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GreasedFolgore
Tesla says Mercedes is "coming soon" -- wasn't soon enough for me -- so does look like you guys are next in line!


https://www.tesla.com/findus?bounds=..._superchargers
Its been that way for a while now, even Hyundai who is not in this list have an access date of Jan 15th, Mercedes is mum which is disappointing, and in line with MBUSA’s performance.
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Originally Posted by Boatguy
How do they handle the billing?
Originally Posted by Boatguy
OK, I get the need to use V3 or V3+, but where do they ask for your CC? Tesla app? MB app?
Billing is via Tesla app currently, which also gets your the ability to get reduced charging price via the Tesla membership. If I’m going with the historical data from Ford and Rivian we might not be able to reduced price via Mercedes me charge (prove me wrong Mercedes Benz USA)
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
Love the color of your car, is this the first time we've seen a photo? Also, does every EQ customer now have access? I don't see the stations showing up in the Mercedes-Benz app, haven't checked in the car, but didn't see them showing up earlier today, so without preconditioning, it may not be as useful. No news articles confirming it, so I wonder if some stations are in testing mode, as is what happened with Rivian a week or so before they opened up to all cars. Wonder if MB needs to upgrade our nav unit or if the stations just show up as all the new stations around here just automatically did. I'd guess the latter is the case. I saw someone claiming to charge with an Audi two days ago, and they're after MB in the order, so that may lend credence to the testing mode theory.

Thanks for the complements on the color, it’s 970 usually offered for first builds along side press cars on all MBs since they photograph pretty well.
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With GM getting Tesla access, they broke the Tesla gate keeping since GM vehicles cannot do any identity communication
Can't believe I didn't think of this. Wild! It works! What an incredible security hole!
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Old Dec 30, 2024 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
Can't believe I didn't think of this. Wild! It works! What an incredible security hole!
Not really a security hole more works as designed. You still need laymen authorization which currently works via Tesla app, vehicle authorization may or may not be coming depending on how non Tesla auth works in the first place
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Not really a security hole more works as designed. You still need laymen authorization which currently works via Tesla app, vehicle authorization may or may not be coming depending on how non Tesla auth works in the first place
Depends on your perspective. From that vantage point, superchargers are now open to all CCS cars, just lie on the app. No more waiting for anyone or any "coming soon" nonsense, just plug it in.
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Originally Posted by bytemaster0
Depends on your perspective. From that vantage point, superchargers are now open to all CCS cars, just lie on the app. No more waiting for anyone or any "coming soon" nonsense, just plug it in.
I see why you say that, but they did use the word authorized and not permitted. It’s more for the automaker benefit than Tesla. Tesla makes their money either way.
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Meaning of the word has changed to stealing data and vandalizing websites, but from my perspective this is a good old-style hack! Noice!
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Originally Posted by GreasedFolgore
Meaning of the word has changed to stealing data and vandalizing websites, but from my perspective this is a good old-style hack! Noice!
if you built something to follow a public spec and someone else who built something to the same spec works with your build, is that a hack?
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Regardless, very happy with the loophole. I haven't had a use case to need it yet, but there may be some future trips that could benefit from this in a pinch, given that it may take another 6 months for MB cars to be authorized at this pace! Thanks for posting your findings @EQEBlue !
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My wife's Chevy bolt is on the Tesla app and I've used it. If Tesla says must use adapter at a given station, will EQE work or is it hit and miss? If it works on all those shown for Bolt, then time for a road trip from Florida to Tennessee. Don't want to get stranded and have to find an EA station. I can live without plug and charge if this works until MB gets it fixed like they promised for 2024.
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if you built something to follow a public spec and someone else who built something to the same spec works with your build, is that a hack?
I dunno what Websters says these days but gaining unauthorized access is a pretty good definition of a hack if you ask me. Since your motives are benign and not malicious though, you're a white hat h@X0r, not the much cooler black hat kind.
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