My Continental ProContact RX tires have about 1 mm left to the wear bar. I've actually really liked them. Thus far, they should make it to about 20k miles on the set. Not the 50k miles they warrant, but I've rarely gotten more than 25k miles on these kinds of tires even on a combustion car, so 20k is great on an EV in my opinion. That said, I did notice some instability/hydroplaning after a storm that was uncharacteristic, so it's clear the tires are getting a bit low for comfort.

So, I've ordered Michelin e.Primacy all-season tires. They actually came in a few minutes ago. I think I'll have them put on this Friday. From what I've read regarding lower rolling resistance (a good 10% lower than the ProContact RX), and longer durability with the legendary Michelin traction characteristics, I'm hoping it'll be a good tire! I'll let you know how they go. If anyone already has them, please feel free to chime in!

 

Okay, so, they had a slot for me this afternoon and I had them installed. Here are my very early (20ish miles) impressions:

1. They're *super* quiet. The way they've done the tread blocks and the compound, along with whatever layering magic they've used, is exceptional. I don't think they have acoustic foam in them, which makes it even more impressive.
2. Bumps are soaked up so much better than the ProContact RXs. This may be in part because the tires are so new. However, I always felt the bumps to be harsh even when the ProContact RXs were new. The ride comfort is thus significantly better.
3. Rolling resistance is at another level. Generally when you get new tires, the increased tread depth means an immediate decrease in efficiency. Not with these. Perhaps the most striking example of this is when coasting down a hill, the acceleration due to gravity is much more pronounced than with the ProContact RXs. I haven't done my standard test loop yet, but from what I have tested so far, the efficiency is going to be stellar. I'm very, very pleased with the results so far in this department.
4. Road feel is precise, not overly harsh. New tire, so it was a smidge squirmy at first, but has settled in nicely. The ProContact RXs were down to 4mm, so they felt a bit fidgety and darting. The e.Primacys are excellent for cruising, but feel very agile going around corners and making directional changes.
5. Wet weather/hydroplaning resistance is excellent. A thunderstorm hit as soon as these were put on, and I was able to go over standing water without any issue. The ProContact RXs were okay at this in the past, though as they got lower, it started to get a bit squirrely. It's the main reason I replaced the tires now.

This is just the first few minutes driving on these. In all, I can say that I highly recommend the new e.Primacy tires!

 

This will be very useful information for me in the future, Bytemaster! Thank you for posting!!

 

Here's an update on how the Michelin e.Primacy all seasons are doing: I've got to tell you, these are *the* tires for an EQE. The comfort level is so much higher, and just as importantly, the rolling resistance improvements are mind-blowing. It's really a pity they weren't developed before now, but I'll take it!

Efficiency: With the older tires, on my loop to work, most of my "good efficiency" loops averaged about 279-289 Wh/mi, but would often be in the high 290s to low 300s, depending on many factors. The best efficiency in this test loop I'd ever seen with the ProContact RXs was 269 Wh/mi, but that was a pretty exceptional day. So, let's use mid 280s as the comparison. Today, on my standard "go to the lab or office" loop, without breaking a sweat, the e.Primacys managed 256 Wh/mi! It was an average drive in average conditions around this time of year, so we're talking about easily 30-40 Wh/mi difference, which is considerable. It's even more impressive if you think about the fact that the tires are brand new, where you'd usually expect a reduced efficiency due to higher tread. This efficiency will only improve!

Ride quality is sublime. The ProContact RXs had a sweet spot: new asphalt. You could easily tell when you were on newer asphalt, because the ride became whisper quiet. However, older, rougher surfaces were noticeably louder. Today, driving back from campus with the e.Primacys (primacies? lol), they were so quiet I thought I was already on the new asphalt section. That's what an amazing job the compound and tread blocks are doing. It's kinda difficult to wrap one's head around. Sure, you definitely hear a bit of tire noise, but it's night and day from the ProContact RX, which was honestly quite decent with noise!

As metioned before, the e.Primacy is excellent on bumps. It's so much more comfortable. I'm sure some of that has to do with the greater tread depth, but I always remembered the older tires to be harsh for what I expected. So, in summary after a couple of days, if you have an EQE and have the right wheel size, the Michelin e.Primacy is a no-brainer. Excellent efficiency, fantastic ride comfort, and great grip, so far. There may be grippier tires, but for standard use case, I can hardly think of a better tire choice. I'm so glad I just went for it.

 

Would Continental give you anything on new ones with 20k on 55k mile warranty? I have new Continental ProContact RX and really like but was hoping for better than the 15k I got out of my oem Parellis on EQE.

 

I was torn between pushing a warranty claim and trying new tires. Tire Discounters told me the warranty claim generally works only when you get new tires from the same manufacturer. As I wantsd Michelin, this wouldn't work per their story, at least. It also required extensive documentation of rotation every 6000 miles or less, which I do have. But it also required proof of alignment, which I do not have - I took it to MB once and they said nothing was needed. I *am* taking it there next week to get an official check so that I can use Michelin's warranty at some point if they don't make it the rated 45k miles.

I'm sure you'll get at least 20k from the Procontact RX - I probably could have made it another 2-3k miles. But the aquaplaning issues at that tread depth moved me to get the e.Primacy set.

 

I recently swapped out my OEM Michelin PS/4 EV tires on my AMG EQEX4 for the Michelin HL /PS/4 A/S EV tires and am experiencing about a 7% increase in efficiency (322 Wh/mile) for my same driving patterns. I also found that the new tires were both quieter and had a smoother ride. I did not have a choice to select the e. Primacy tires as they are not available for 22" rims. I'd like to understand how the regular EQE sedan can be much more efficient than my AMG EQEX4, as most of the time, only the rear motor runs on my vehicle.

 

The SUV definitely has worse efficiency just due to the shape. Additionally, the AMGs have custom-wound motors that can take a whole lot more current, and thus produce a lot more power and torque. There seems to be a curve between motor output and efficiency, even though many people report no efficiency penalty with stronger motors. I'm not sure that's true, as every motor has its power vs efficiency curve. Our 350X4 gets about 317 Wh/mi on non-EV tires (wasn't able to get some better tires for it right before a road trip that urgently needed a tire change, so I ended up getting what was in stock). I'm looking forward to trying better tires on it. With stock Pirellis, it seemed to have better efficiency. In some loop situations it can still get close to 300 Wh/mi or even below for city driving. On my sedan with the ProContact RXs, I was seeing about 300 Wh/mi on long 70MPH trips. I'm curious what the e.Primacy will do, though I fully expect it'll be significantly lower. Maybe in the mid 280s. Just a note that my 254 Wh/mi loop included about 26 miles of highway at 70 MPH, and maybe 4 miles of city driving.

 

Thanks for the reply. Interestingly, your 350X4 is using 317 Wh/mile, and my AMG EQEX4 is using 322 Wh/mile—basically the same. I've been monitoring the energy usage in Comfort, and the front motor is hardly ever engaged unless I'm rapidly accelerating. I can also see this on the temperature readout where the front motor is at ambient while the rear motor is running 105+. The car's EPA range rating is 235 miles, but I regularly see a range of 250 miles at 80% charge. The 2024 model also has a heat pump, but I don't think its presence affects the mileage above 72 degrees. I'm curious how much improvement there will be in the 2026 models with the change to the battery chemistry and revised motor efficiency.

 

If I'm getting this right, the OP might have been referring to 20inch A/S tire options. Does any of you have experience/recommendations with A/S options for the EQE AMG Sedan (w/21inch wheels?)
Context:
- I have 2 dedicated wheel sets (summer/winter). My first set of factory tires was Michelin Sport EV, and it looks like it will barely make 20-25k miles (judging by the 20K warranty on this, maybe it's to be expected).
- I am probably looking to have one set of All-Season tires, and one set of winter ones.
- The A/S options that I'm seeing available at my size (265/35R21 front 295/30R21) are the Continental ProContact RX, and the Goodyear Eagle Sport A/S (the Tesla OEM tire).

Any thoughts?

 

They're actually 19s. I ordered the smallest wheels possible for the car. The 19s are no longer offered for '24+ model years. Not sure what to advise for 21s.

 

I might take the plunge sometime this next season, and report back my experience.
My inclination is to use the Conti CrossContact RX for summer (Apr/Nov), and try out the VikingContact 7's for the heart of the winter (Dec/Mar).
Seems to me that the default options for the 21inch are simply wearing out way too rapidly for the sake of being soft enough to have a "Y" speed rating (which is more than I practically will ever need). But I need good traction in the winter, and decent tread life anytime else.

 

sorry for hijacking, just headsup michelin has summer promotion you can claim 50 to 100 euro depends on region, if you ordered new you might wanna check their promotions page

 

You mention having "stock Pirellis", and how much you've enjoyed the Michelin Primacy tires, in another thread you've joined in to discuss the very low volume hum I've experienced on our 2024 EQE 500 SUV. My thought is that the Pirelli Scorpion AS tires are also simply noisy, I mean just the sound of the tires, the classic whir whir whir as you go down the highway that increases slightly in pitch as you speed up, and that can sound noticeably louder or softer depending upon the smoothness of the road surface.

My question to you - do you think I would notice a significant improvement going to Michelin Primacy tires over the Pirelli Scorpion AS?

 

@sarends Yes, the e.Primacy AS is noticeably quieter. Much more so than the Continental ProContact RXs that I had on that car after the OE tires. However, you'd have to check if it's available in your size - they weren't for our SUV, only for the sedan, at the time I last checked. Our SUV also has a different "hum" associated with it, not associated with the gearbox, and it's 100% tied to a vibration node induced in the wheel/tire cavity itself. It's noticeable on almost any tire, but less so on all-seasons or those with foam in the middle. On our Nokian WRG5s, it's *very* noticeable. It's a 220Hz A, and it really picks up at around 65-70 MPH. We have the 20" wheels on it. I'd assume 19s and 21s don't have that problem (my sedan has 19s and no weird 220Hz tire cavity noise), it's a standing wave that develops in the wheel/tire itself. The Pirellis produced the least of that when we've had the car. If the e.Primacy tires were available on the SUV, I'd get them in a heartbeat come April when I take the WRG5s off for the season. (Yes, I swap all-weathers for all-seasons, I'm weird like that, but dedicated snow tires sap too much range and in high temperature swings get too soft, so all-weathers are great from November through April). Sorry for all the different car, wheel and tire combos in this reply!

 

So, you like all weathers November through April (Primacy?) and then what do you swap to May through October?

 

Sorry for being confusing! I have All-weathers (Nokian Remedy WRG5) on our SUV November-April. Then whatever all-season I can get on it. I had the stock Pirellis for a while. Then had some Continental CrossContact LXs (okay, not great). I might put some Goodyear Electric Drive 2s on it in April. So I switch from All-Weather in the winter (WRG5) to All-Season (likely Electric Drive 2 or something better if I can find it) from April-early November.

Sedan, I run the e.Primacy year-round. I will likely stay with that tire unless something really improved comes along.

 

@bytemaster0 Am getting closer to thinking about new tires. Do you still swear by e.primacy, Bytemaster? Are they MO or MOE? Does that really matter for non-sports car use?

 

MOE are run flat tires and will have a harsher ride than MO tires.

 

@ScottC2 , yes, I still absolutely swear by them. They are not MO or MOE (they're not runflat). But, they are absolutely best in test. A few caveats: 1. I'm talking about the US-market all-season version of the tire. I'm not sure if it's available outside of the US at the moment, there is an e.Primacy AS outside of the US, but I'm not sure if it's the same tire. You may want to check. 2. This is a touring tire - it handles very nicely, but it's not a summer UHP tire.

Reasons why I love this tire more and more: Lowest rolling resistance on the charts so far - it's a class leader. Quietest tire I've ever driven. Comfortable over bumps, not harsh. Quiet on all pavements, it's uncanny how it does this. Decent turn-in, very predictable handling. "Michelin" feeling of the tire. Excellent grip in the wet, even in light snow. It's the best touring tire I've driven.

TireRack has an excellent review on it, and compares it to UHP tires as well. You can see it here: - I agree with all of their conclusions. The rolling resistance figures are earlier on in another chapter. e.Primacy AS is on top of the test charts.

Hope that helps!

 

Thanks for sharing, Bytemaster0! I will have a look at the video.
I'm looking for summer tires, not AS, as I have a separate set of winter (nokian hakkapeliitta) tires that I think are great - and they have a lot of miles left in them.

 

This seems to be about the closest I can find here.
"A" ratings for efficiency and grip. 70db rating for noise, which I think is the lowest I've seen here.
https://kennethsdack.se/produkter/da...mxU7okSZzN5jeg..