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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 12:00 AM
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I am looking to get a EQS SUV vs. Model X. Can anyone tell me their real world range test? Does the EQS SUV RWD deliver 305 miles? I know the Teslas will get like 20-40% below their listed range and the Porsche Tacan gets above listed. Trying to see where the EQS SUV fits in.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 02:00 PM
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I am looking to get a EQS SUV vs. Model X. Can anyone tell me their real world range test? Does the EQS SUV RWD deliver 305 miles? I know the Teslas will get like 20-40% below their listed range and the Porsche Tacan gets above listed. Trying to see where the EQS SUV fits in.
My 450 Sedan rated at 350 miles actually gets about 375 (actual miles) highway miles charged to 100%. In town would be above 400, about 390 at 80% charge.
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:28 PM
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So in my 2 weeks of ownership and just under 1k miles I have charged 3 times at superchargers and 4 times at home which seemed a lot to me.

So last night I charged up to 80% and noted the mileage so I can monitor how things go until the next charge.

My first drive to the office this morning was 4.5 miles and the Mercedes Me app is showing 1.6mpkWh. Battery is down 3% which makes sense because 4.5/1.6 = 2.81kwh which is 2.6% of the 108kwh battery in the car. But that seems really low. Now it is 45 degrees this morning and I ran the heat and heated seats but based on my calculations of this short drive, I am getting about 61% of the advertised EPA range. (EPA range is 280 mi / 108kwh battery = 2.6mpkwh and my 1.6 is 61% of that)

Even if I take the "from reset" number shown in the Mercedes me app, I am at 2.2mpkwh which is still 84% of EPA estimates (I have not reset since I bought the car so this is the mpkwh since I bought the car).

Curious what everyone else is seeing in their Mercedes me apps for average consumption. If you don't know, bring up your Mercedes me app, click on the car icon at the bottom and the click trip data.

My max range at 80% was 225 and now at 77% it is showing 217 (which is 8mi less, but I have only driven 4.5 mi) so at this pace I will be at 20% after only ~130 before I have to plug-in again

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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 04:28 PM
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I'm still not clear on how the Mercedes me app is calculating mpkWh on the Trip Data screen, currently showing 2.4 mpkWh. But if I use the SOC or Max SOC calculations on the Home Screen and divide the miles by the percentage of remaining range, I always get a higher mpkWh result.


For example, my Home Screen is showing the following:


State of charge: 58% (172 mi) 172 / 58 = 2.97 mpkWh or 297 miles of range @ 100% charge

Max. state of charge: 80% (242.3 mi) 242.3 / 80 = 3.03 mpkWh or 303 miles of range @ 100% charge

I will be doing manual calculations of miles driven, divided by the actual kWh charged back into the battery (from my ChargePoint Home Flex) to get the true mpkWh figure.
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 05:17 PM
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All this is going to be hard to calculate because of the variables. Wind, cold, roads flat or hilly, AC and heat use inside the cabin and your driving habits. Yesterday and today I used the heat for drivers seat and interior for the first time. We went from 85F to 55F in two days and I noted a quicker drop in charge percentage over the same route I normally take. I don’t believe at this point that any heavy SUV EV is going to get stellar mileage. I’ll try some calculations when I get more miles. Still waiting for the piston rings and cylinder walls to break in properly. 😊
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 05:23 PM
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so this is getting to my point. I think their SOC calculation is on something that is not completely real data. Because my car currently shows Max state: 80% (225 mi), but current state of charge is 77% (217 mi). My only drive today was from home to office which was 4.5 mi. So if the 80% was truly 225, then I should be at 220 mi or 221 mi. and probably 78%.
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 05:28 PM
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The range numbers are calculated under ideal conditions. Cooler ambient temperature requires heating the battery. If you run the HVAC to warm or cool the interior, that also reduces range. Finally driving style also impacts the range.
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 05:29 PM
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One wonders about the % battery figure also. I charged last night to 80% and when I started the 580 this morning the screen read 81% so I magically gained 1% overnight. I have also noted some mornings after a 80% charge the number drops to 79% just backing out of the garage. I don’t think the onboard numbers are meant to be super accurate any more than you would expect a gas tank gauge on a ICE car to read in minute increments such as total ounces instead of gallons.
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Old Nov 15, 2022 | 03:55 PM
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The highest efficiency I could get with my 580 is 2.4 mpkwh , which is well below (already conservative) EPA estimates of 285 miles. With mostly highway miles, it drops to 2.0, which is not great for road trips 😞 . Switching to eco mode makes no significant diff. Folks who are range conscious should clearly opt for 480+.
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Old Nov 15, 2022 | 08:16 PM
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I completed a real world test of my range. Doing a mix of city/highway driving, I averaged 2.08 mpkWh after using 52% of the battery. The Mercedes me app is reporting 2.3 mpkWh, I cannot explain the difference. The average temp was about 45°.
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 05:39 PM
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I have gone from 80% to 50% and went 53 miles for 30%. That is 1.77 which translates 191mi for 100%. Seems like 35% less than advertised (EPA). I'm wondering if I should take it in to service and if nothing else have them do all the software updates that may help with power consumption. Anyone done this and seem to have gotten better real world range?
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 05:45 PM
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Thanks for the information - looks like overall similar to Tesla range (20-40% below listed range). Looks like the EQS SUV is unlike the EQS sedan range where the sedan is getting above listed range.
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 08:26 PM
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My average so far (1000 miles) is 2.59miles / kWh.

Assuming 107kWh battery capacity that is a 277 mile range. Right at the EPA rating.
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 02:28 PM
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This is dire enough to get it checked out .. toftt ! May be some modules in the battery pack are just not working right ?
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 03:21 PM
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My average so far (1000 miles) is 2.59miles / kWh.

Assuming 107kWh battery capacity that is a 277 mile range. Right at the EPA rating.
Do you live somewhere warm? I’m a pretty light foot driver but have only managed 2.1.
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 07:14 PM
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you will need to wait until new tires break-in. so about 500-1000 miles you will start getting better range.
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 07:24 PM
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looking at my energy consumption from the past few weeks of ownership, I can easily get north of 300 miles range, likely 320, in my 450 4Matic. My Tesla Plaid struggled to get about that. (In Northern California FYI)

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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 09:51 PM
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I have gone from 80% to 50% and went 53 miles for 30%. That is 1.77 which translates 191mi for 100%. Seems like 35% less than advertised (EPA). I'm wondering if I should take it in to service and if nothing else have them do all the software updates that may help with power consumption. Anyone done this and seem to have gotten better real world range?
So after 45% drain (80% to 35%) I am sitting at 77 miles in 45% drain. So 185mi for 100%. I am going to setup an appt and take the car in and get it checked out. I just crossed 1000 miles, but I feel the range has gone down. First few days (driving back on highway) I got much better. I have also been driving as much as possible with strong recup as well.
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Good idea to take your EQS in to the dealership. That is terrible mileage unless you are driving up hill in sub freezing temperatures with only 5psi in each tire…..
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....Can anyone tell me their real world range test? Does the EQS SUV RWD deliver 305 miles?....
Made a 300 mile trip from Philadelphia Area to Providence, RI. One stop over at 50 miles and one charging stop at the 144 mile mark. Temperatures ranged from 25F to 41F during the trip. We averaged 1.67 mpkWh for the first 25 miles. By the time we reached the first stop over the average was 2.35 mpkWh. The average at the charging stop was 2.5 mpkWh. When we arrived in Providence the average for the entire 300 mile trip was 2.62 mpkWh.

We averaged 42 mph for the trip. The first 50 miles was on surface roads at speeds below 50mph. The balance of the trip was mostly Interstate at 65 +/- mph. The average of 2.62 mpkWh comes to within a mile of the EPA 285 mile range estimate for the EQS 450 4Matic SUV.
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Wow, That looks to be good mileage especially with those temperatures.
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Exactly my thoughts… For that weather that’s pretty good.
thanks for the details.
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Originally Posted by baydcsr
I am looking to get a EQS SUV vs. Model X. Can anyone tell me their real world range test? Does the EQS SUV RWD deliver 305 miles? I know the Teslas will get like 20-40% below their listed range and the Porsche Tacan gets above listed. Trying to see where the EQS SUV fits in.
An an owner of both, get the Model X.
You’ll be disappointed in the EQS SUV.

Real world range on the EQS SUV is decent, I did Philly to Chicago and was getting 220/30 mile legs at avg speed of 75mph
This is on par of what I got in my 2022 Model X

The tech in the Model X is just much better, the EQS feels clunky but has the luxury of a MB. Just feels like MB tried to make the EQS drive like a gas car vs. a new age electric vehicle. If it’s your first electric vehicle, you’ll probably be fine.

I’m now holding out to find a good R1S price near retail. I believe the used car market is going to be flooded over the next 30-60 days with amazing deals.
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Old Nov 20, 2022 | 10:05 AM
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An an owner of both, get the Model X.
You’ll be disappointed in the EQS SUV.

Real world range on the EQS SUV is decent, I did Philly to Chicago and was getting 220/30 mile legs at avg speed of 75mph
This is on par of what I got in my 2022 Model X

The tech in the Model X is just much better, the EQS feels clunky but has the luxury of a MB. Just feels like MB tried to make the EQS drive like a gas car vs. a new age electric vehicle. If it’s your first electric vehicle, you’ll probably be fine.

I’m now holding out to find a good R1S price near retail. I believe the used car market is going to be flooded over the next 30-60 days with amazing deals.
I tried my neighbor's Model X (2022 Plaid). Immediate feeling for my wife and me compared the EQS was that the Model X has a less comfortable ride, plastic pieces with creaking noises in the whole cabin. The owner of the X wasn't happy with theirs. Not sure if it was specifically their model X but EQS definitely is more luxurious and more comfortable drive.
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I’ve owned 2 Model S’s and an X. My most recent Model S was a Plaid. It’s all just way too much money for a car that’s that poorly manufactured.

my first model S was a 2017, and it was actually pretty good. Our Model X had falcon wing door issues that never went away, lots of creaking, and drove terribly (super sloppy). The Plaid needed a new paint job immediately , had noise rear seats, and started fairly tight but very quickly started driving poorly. Alignment was fine, but the car was all over the place. So while you could accelerate like nothing else, you had zero control. It’s a shame because the design and packaging of the Model S is stellar.

the EQS drives so much better than any of them. And it feel solid and well made.
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