Psymac

Enjoying very much our 580, much more luxury than the iX we used to have. Initially however I did miss the one pedal driving with the 580 vs the iX, having heard it wasn't really available. However, when I turn off Creep Mode and set to Strong Recuperation, feels like about 90% one pedal, just the last few feet before stopping will need to apply brakes. The more I drive, the better it gets!

streborx

As someone who learned to drive using both feet (a manual 3 speed), both hands, both eyes, both ears and one brain, can someone please explain the obsession everyone else has with [fill-in-the-blank]-free driving? Just what exactly do you use your unoccupied appendages for while you've abdicated your life and welfare to a collection of sensors, microcontrollers and actuators? Sitting in the driver's seat with one foot up on the dash, the other dangling out the window and having both hands available to scratch your butt on demand is not my vision of Nirvana.

Crito

How about gas magically going back into your tank every time you downshift? Wouldn't that be like nirvana? That's essentially how regenerative braking works. It's like downshifting except your gas tank fills back up a little too.

i agree that change just for the sake of change is pointless, like when Obama became president. But with EVs it's truly a paradigm shift and you need to either get with the program or you'll be left behind. There's no stopping it.

LastOne

@streborx you are going to be even more confused when self-driving cars are common. Then the comments will be what to do with your feet, hands, eyes, ears, and brain. There is no turning back.

streborx

If self-driving cars confuse folks like me, the manufacturers will have indeed missed the mark. Aren't they supposed to be Alexa on wheels?
Fortunately, I expect the vehicles I currently own will outlive me. The only differences between a self-driving car and an Uber are monthly payments, ever-increasing insurance rates (20% just this year), and the garage space ($$$ in major cities). Who will want to own a car in 20 years?

mpublic

Intelligent Recuperation is the way. Sailing makes you feel like you have superpowers and no need to touch the brakes at all unless you are the first at a stop sign or traffic light.

The only negative is that you have to select Intelligent Recuperation every time you start the car.

streborx

Intelligent Recuperation -- that's what they now call what used to be summer school (lol).

Davemayo70

When I use strong recuperation and with creep off, I never have to use the brakes. One-pedal driving absolutely is available on the EQS models.

jiaotong

I do feel like it is not quite as smooth as with the Tesla. It is possible, but for me, I find strong is good but there is a slight delay in when it kicks in. It has been a learning curve to get it just right, but getting better at it.
Is there a way to keep the recuperation mode consistent. It is such a hard shift to go between strong and normal! I wish it could be tied to my profile and always be strong.

Davemayo70

Unfortunately, you have to set it every time you get in the car.

Crito

I can't stand the "intelligent" recoup and can only imagine how idiotic my car will be at full self-driving. I've grown used to toggling between strong and normal regen with the left and right paddles though. It mimics downshifting into a turn and powering back out of it pretty well. Hope MB doesn't mess that up with a future update to improve the "brake feel" because I really don't use them much with creep mode off anyways.

eddieo45

WTF is that supposed to mean??

Crito

Which part don't you understand? Obama campaigned on change because we were all sick of Cheney's puppet and we got this guy instead:

Nothing changed. Don't believe the hype!

eddieo45

lol, you must've expected too much change; if you didn't see the difference from Bush43 or what we might have had with McCain you're not trying hard enough.

amnesia

Pull the panel on the right and change the mode to auto regeneration and you can one pedal. Car will stop completely.

jiaotong

which panel do you mean? Can you post a picture of the panel?

LastOne

I think that should paddle not panel, and Strong regen is the paddle on the left side in my vehicle.

nosnoop

I think you mean intelligent regen.
But not quite, what you said is only true if there is a car in front of you! If you are the first car, it won't stop!

LasVegas_89135

My experience is that Strong Regen (with Creep disabled) is essentially One Pedal Driving.

I just wish I didn't have to enable Strong Regen every time I start the car (1st world problem)

Surge

Can you customize the regen mode when you start the car, or does it always default to the same mode?

LastOne

Default when the car is started, and left/right paddle shift to select your preference.

Surge

Thanks. And the default cannot be changed via the fingerprint based preferences?

nosnoop

No, it cannot, at least for North American cars.
This is related to EPA testing rule.
If they allow you to change the start up mode, they have to do a complete test in all the different modes, and the lowest range one would be used for the official EPA numbers.
It's for the same reason why you cannot change the start up dynamic drive mode.

Surge

That’s not the only negative. The biggest negative is not knowing how the car will decelerate! I nearly rear ended a car because “Intelligent Recuperation” coasted instead of regenerated on my first day using it. No thanks. Too dangerous.

LastOne

I use it all the time without any heart stopping events. The only caution is to enable it where there is a good distance to vehicles ahead giving the system time to engage and calculate stopping/slowing ranges. Highly recommended.