Well…. 56k miles and now needs an entire battery
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If you are looking for bargain priced batteries or transmissions, you are in the wrong car make. I was searching for a new wiring harness yesterday for my 2008 CL, and happened to come across the price of a new engine, and this is for a relatively plain/simple M273 (see below). MB is just plain mega expensive no matter if you have an ev or ice.
https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info2/2730104400.htm
https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info2/2730104400.htm
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If you are looking for bargain priced batteries or transmissions, you are in the wrong car make. I was searching for a new wiring harness yesterday for my 2008 CL, and happened to come across the price of a new engine, and this is for a relatively plain/simple M273 (see below). MB is just plain mega expensive no matter if you have an ev or ice.
https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info2/2730104400.htm
https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info2/2730104400.htm
My point was addressing the "battery is $30k, that's crazy, glad I don't have an EV" comment. It's no different than a myriad of IEC car parts failing. A new transmission for an S Class is $30k if not more, for example.
I have both EV and ICE, they each have their pros and cons.
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Do you understand that manufacturing EV batteries puts out so much CO2 that you have to drive 100,000 just to break-even with gas engine CO2 emissions?
[source: [color=#ffffff]https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017...power-energy/]
I own a G550, AMG GTC, and EQS 450+. I like the EQS for what it is, I am not disillusioned to believe I am ‘saving the planet’.
Ramping up battery production just dumps loads more CO2 into the atmosphere that we are not going to break even on down the line, unless everyone keeps the same EV beyond 5-6 years — will never happen.
[source: [color=#ffffff]https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017...power-energy/]
I own a G550, AMG GTC, and EQS 450+. I like the EQS for what it is, I am not disillusioned to believe I am ‘saving the planet’.
Ramping up battery production just dumps loads more CO2 into the atmosphere that we are not going to break even on down the line, unless everyone keeps the same EV beyond 5-6 years — will never happen.
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This is so dumb. “Yearly temperature compared to 20th century average”. Think about that…
These numbers make up the average.
This graph is meaningless.
I always question how the average daily/yearly temp is calculated. I can make a day’s average look like just about anything. It all depends on when I measure and how often.
These numbers make up the average.
This graph is meaningless.
I always question how the average daily/yearly temp is calculated. I can make a day’s average look like just about anything. It all depends on when I measure and how often.
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Just about all the other articles are so biased in favor of EVs, it’s impossible to know the truth.
Making batteries is a dirty, laborious, and terrible for the environment.
Oil is organic dinosaur juice!
You are making global warming worse, especially when you drive off the lot, in your new EV.
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The graph is not meaningless. It absolutely shows that the average yearly temperature for last quarter of the 20th century and first quarter of the 21rst are above the average of the entire 20th. It clearly shows that the temperature trend is not random and is trending upwards aka "Global Warming"
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The graph is not meaningless. It absolutely shows that the average yearly temperature for last quarter of the 20th century and first quarter of the 21rst are above the average of the entire 20th. It clearly shows that the temperature trend is not random and is trending upwards aka "Global Warming"
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Yeah, sure, the planet is a lot cooler than it was 4 billion years ago and a lot warmer than it was during the ice age, all depends on the time scale of the graph. Doesn't change the fact that fossil fuels are bad for the environment and bad for your health. Also doesn't change the fact that oil corporations are the war machine's best friend.
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No, it is not. The link I shared is from the World Economic Forum, as unbiased as possible that I could find. You need to drive 5-8 years (100,000km) to break/even!
Just about all the other articles are so biased in favor of EVs, it’s impossible to know the truth.
Making batteries is a dirty, laborious, and terrible for the environment.
Oil is organic dinosaur juice!
You are making global warming worse, especially when you drive off the lot, in your new EV.
Just about all the other articles are so biased in favor of EVs, it’s impossible to know the truth.
Making batteries is a dirty, laborious, and terrible for the environment.
Oil is organic dinosaur juice!
You are making global warming worse, especially when you drive off the lot, in your new EV.
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So per the Harvard finance prof, all graphs are meaningless. Finance must be an interesting field in that it is able to communicate information without the use of graphs.
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The only claim being made is the EV's do less harm to the climate than fossil fueled cars.
Now it is certainly true that the payback gets extended out much further for a car like a Prius unless the battery is produced and the BEV is powered with solar energy, which isn't possible with an ICE powered vehicle. By the same token the payback mileage is reduced significantly and the life cycle reduction in damage to the climate is much greater if the comparison is made to a highly inefficient fossil fueled car, you know like a G550.
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If the climate is not changing, why are national insurance companies no longer writing policies on homes in Florida and other high risk states? And, why are global reinsurers not writing policies on those states?
