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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 01:59 PM
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Minimizing loss

I know the answer already (maybe) but hoping against hope to hear otherwise.

I have 2023 EQS 580, month over month, I see eye watering resale price drop

One of the dealers is willing to trade EQS for new BMW i7 electric (nicely speced) with $30K more out the door price.

i know it’s throwing good money over bad money.. what’s your take? My slight hope is i7 has better resale?!
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kart11
I know the answer already (maybe) but hoping against hope to hear otherwise.

I have 2023 EQS 580, month over month, I see eye watering resale price drop

One of the dealers is willing to trade EQS for new BMW i7 electric (nicely speced) with $30K more out the door price.

i know it’s throwing good money over bad money.. what’s your take? My slight hope is i7 has better resale?!
Quite a long read but make sure the i7 is something you would want:
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...omparison.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...todayoooo.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...mw-andooo.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...7-andoo-7.html
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kart11
I know the answer already (maybe) but hoping against hope to hear otherwise.

I have 2023 EQS 580, month over month, I see eye watering resale price drop

One of the dealers is willing to trade EQS for new BMW i7 electric (nicely speced) with $30K more out the door price.

i know it’s throwing good money over bad money.. what’s your take? My slight hope is i7 has better resale?!
Big BMW never have good resale value. If you have $30K to throw in the wind, and have never experienced BMW, test drive it, and hand over the dead presidents. Enjoy. It will all be the same after about a year or two.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 02:28 AM
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kart11
I know the answer already (maybe) but hoping against hope to hear otherwise.

I have 2023 EQS 580, month over month, I see eye watering resale price drop

One of the dealers is willing to trade EQS for new BMW i7 electric (nicely speced) with $30K more out the door price.

i know it’s throwing good money over bad money.. what’s your take? My slight hope is i7 has better resale?!
I'd suggest keeping what you have and driving it a long time, if you want to maximize the value of your EQS. No luxury ev's have proven themselves to be good investments--see Porsche Taycan, Audi E Tron, Jaguar i Pace, and of course EQS. The worst of the dramatic drop in value for your EQS is already over, but just beginning with a new luxury ev. Your EQS only turns into a true financial loss if you sell it. Since we plan to keep ours a long time, I'm not concerned about the value drop at all, especially considering the 10 year battery warranty.
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kart11
I know the answer already (maybe) but hoping against hope to hear otherwise.
I have 2023 EQS 580, month over month, I see eye watering resale price drop
One of the dealers is willing to trade EQS for new BMW i7 electric (nicely speced) with $30K more out the door price.
i know it’s throwing good money over bad money.. what’s your take? My slight hope is i7 has better resale?!
If I were in the market for another non-Tesla EV, I would wait for one with a NACS port.

My 2023 EQS 450 4Matic SUV has just over 50K miles after 25 months. Depreciation has been running about $3K per month or $1.50/mile. Not great, but not any worse than the SL550 that I owned for 13 years and also drove for just over 50K miles. Personally, I have had it with EVs and plan to go back to an ICE vehicle to get back to stress free road tripping. I expect to have about 60K miles on the EQS when I am ready to trade it. If the trade-in value continues to decline at the same rate I will probably give the EQS to a family member to use for local commuting.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kart11
I have 2023 EQS 580, month over month, I see eye watering resale price drop
Cars are not investments... luxury EVs. The i7 is no different. Values will always plummet more than we want. Your best bet is to not even look at values, and instead just drive and enjoy your car until you are truly ready for your next vehicle.
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 01:27 PM
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If you want to minimize your losses, lease.
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If you want to minimize your losses, lease.
How does the lease payment not factor in depreciation? If the leasing company aren’t doing that due diligence, they will go bankrupt in short order.
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 02:32 PM
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How does the lease payment not factor in depreciation? If the leasing company aren’t doing that due diligence, they will go bankrupt in short order.
There are some vehicles that have the potential to lease well… and others that lease terribly.

There are two numbers to consider in a lease. The depreciation (as per Residual Value), and the rent charge (based on Money Factor).

I have seen some lease deals where due to various incentives and discounts, the “selling price” of the vehicle is so close to RV, the depreciation is negligible. But they’ll make it up in the rent charge. Don’t worry — they will always make it work out for them. Just like a casino, the house always wins in the end.
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadBenz
If you want to minimize your losses, lease.
This is bad advice as you will end up paying far more for transportation services than purchasing and reselling, even if you do it on a lease schedule.

If you want to have a new car every few years, then you are going to pay for the privilege. The first three years the car will depreciate at the maximum rate, after that the value drops less dramatically. If you want the best value, then buy and hold the car until the cost of repairs and maintenance is above the value of the car. That will be in a decade or nearly two if you get lucky. For example, I have a car purchased new that I have kept running for 16 years or about 300,000 miles. I got a lot of value for that money over that distance/time period even including all the factory required service, more than any possible lease or quick trade in. It still has a slight residual value, but has held that roughly $1K value the last two years. If I had to guess, counting insurance, service, repairs, gasoline, registration, etc. it has probably cost in the vicinity of $2 - 3 a mile over its lifetime. (The operating costs and depreciation of a car will typically match the purchase price in about three years.)
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