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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 03:06 PM
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Thanks - but is there a safety hazard to use non OEM adaptor for Mercedes ?
I am sure there are some Brand X adapters that are sub-par quality. But if you use the Tesla adapter provided by Ford and Rivian or Lectron adapter offered by Ford you will be fine. The MB one is most likely the same one Ford is getting from Lectron.
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by eqs5804matic
Thanks - but is there a safety hazard to use non OEM adaptor for Mercedes ?
There are lower spec adaptors that might be an issue. Adaptors that would have no trouble supporting a Bolt for example at 50kW charging may have some problems at 150kW. The quality adaptors seem to be rated for at least 1000V, 500A charging capacity.

Honestly, even these seem a bit low - most house wiring is >4x the planned voltage e.g., 600V rating for 120V wiring for example. Most Mercedes have 400V battery packs at 150kW charging so I would have wanted a 1600V minimum rating for the adaptor. Perhaps 2.5x is considered okay because the adaptor is small and has temperature sensors, etc.
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ehildum
There are lower spec adaptors that might be an issue. Adaptors that would have no trouble supporting a Bolt for example at 50kW charging may have some problems at 150kW. The quality adaptors seem to be rated for at least 1000V, 500A charging capacity.

Honestly, even these seem a bit low - most house wiring is >4x the planned voltage e.g., 600V rating for 120V wiring for example. Most Mercedes have 400V battery packs at 150kW charging so I would have wanted a 1600V minimum rating for the adaptor. Perhaps 2.5x is considered okay because the adaptor is small and has temperature sensors, etc.
I suspect that there is a safety buffer built into the rating. I would not be surprised if the actual rating was twice the stated rating.
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LAZARU5
I am sure there are some Brand X adapters that are sub-par quality. But if you use the Tesla adapter provided by Ford and Rivian or Lectron adapter offered by Ford you will be fine. The MB one is most likely the same one Ford is getting from Lectron.
When I chatted with Lectron I was told that the only difference with Merc one is the badging.
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 10:17 AM
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When I chatted with Lectron I was told that the only difference with Merc one is the badging.
I believe there are three differences besides badging.

1) More robust adapter-to-car-port latch. Reduces chance of damage if adapter is dropped on pavement.
2) Reshaped "trigger" latch to facilitate removal of NACS connector. Not necessary to depress "trigger" below adapter body shell to remove NACS connector.
3) Interlock pin between DC contact pins. Eliminates possibility of removing NACS connector while adapter is connected to car port.

The standard Lectron adapter allows the NACS connector to be removed while the adapter is attached to the car since it does not have the interlock pin. I think there is a microswitch that interrupts charging when the trigger latch is depressed to remove the NACS plug. However, it is a best practice to stop the charge in the Tesla app first, then press the button near the port (white lights), and finally remove the NACS connector. Ironically, it is easier to separate the the NACS plug from the adapter while it is attached to the car.
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 07:47 AM
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Thank you for the useful information. Here is my status so far:

1. My mobile app received the NACS popup (but only after I fiddled and went through some menus - don't remember which ones). I've enabled it.
2. Based on the discussions here (esp. the note by @LAZARU5) it looks like it is best to order the original OEM NACS adapter and not the lectron one as the former might have some mods that better suits Mercedes vehicles. Could you confirm that this adapter from mbpartssource (authorized OEM dealer) meets that criteria? I also called my dealer who asked me to come in, but I am hoping to avoid that trip
3. My MBUX HUD received a comms module update yesterday (says it allows future auto updates), but I am yet to receive the NACS popup on my HUD. In the mean time, when I changed my settings in the charging options on my car to select "all provides" vs "mercedes charge", tesla chargers do show up. Is that sufficient?

Thanks

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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:10 AM
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A software update is NOT required to use the adapter and tesla chargers if you install and use the Tesla app. I prefer the Tesla app because you can join their charging system for a small monthly fee and get discount charging rates. I'm not sure they will apply with plug & pay when MB releases it.
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 10:32 AM
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Thank you for the useful information. Here is my status so far:

1. My mobile app received the NACS popup (but only after I fiddled and went through some menus - don't remember which ones). I've enabled it.
2. Based on the discussions here (esp. the note by @LAZARU5) it looks like it is best to order the original OEM NACS adapter and not the lectron one as the former might have some mods that better suits Mercedes vehicles. Could you confirm that this adapter from mbpartssource (authorized OEM dealer) meets that criteria? I also called my dealer who asked me to come in, but I am hoping to avoid that trip
3. My MBUX HUD received a comms module update yesterday (says it allows future auto updates), but I am yet to receive the NACS popup on my HUD. In the mean time, when I changed my settings in the charging options on my car to select "all provides" vs "mercedes charge", tesla chargers do show up. Is that sufficient?

Thanks
The Lectron Vortex is the exact same adapter Mercedes is purchasing from Lectron, with the exception of the name "Mercedes" on it. Think about it, Lectron would NOT sell their own branded NACS adapter with an inferior design and manufacture one for Mercedes or any other OEM that has a better designed. I've used my adapter twice and it works perfectly.

As the above post states, you do not need Plug-and-Play from Mercedes to use Superchargers, you only need to install the Tesla app and set up an account so they can bill you. The app is very easy to use and offers a better overall view of where Superchargers are located.


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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMa
The Lectron Vortex is the exact same adapter Mercedes is purchasing from Lectron, with the exception of the name "Mercedes" on it. Think about it, Lectron would NOT sell their own branded NACS adapter with an inferior design and manufacture one for Mercedes or any other OEM that has a better designed. I've used my adapter twice and it works perfectly.

As the above post states, you do not need Plug-and-Play from Mercedes to use Superchargers, you only need to install the Tesla app and set up an account so they can bill you. The app is very easy to use and offers a better overall view of where Superchargers are located.
Thanks - I am sure you are right. To be extra safe, I just bought the adapter from https://mbpartsource.com/ - which to my eyes, looks exactly like the one @ lectron website except for the sticker on top that says "mercedes-benz" :-) But hey, the price was right - $174 including shipping, and it ships Friday, so I had nothing to lose.

I do have the tesla app set up as well. Frankly, the only time I will use this feature (NACS charging) is on long trips, which isn't often. I'll do a dry run @ a super charger as soon as I get it. Question though - my MBUX unit in my car hasn't yet "auto popped up" anything about tesla superchargers (like my mobile app did). I went into charging stations and enabled "all providers" and then I saw Tesla chargers. I wonder if others got a MBUX popup too?
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 02:13 PM
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Question though - my MBUX unit in my car hasn't yet "auto popped up" anything about tesla superchargers (like my mobile app did). I went into charging stations and enabled "all providers" and then I saw Tesla chargers. I wonder if others got a MBUX popup too?
Nothing popped up on my MBUX screen, it just added the Tesla Superchargers automatically after enabling NACS in the Mercedes-Benz app. Try looking for nearby stations and set the filter to only display 150 > charging stations. You should see any nearby Tesla stations, at least it's working for me.
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Added the NACS charger and after 5 hours no Tesla stations showing up.

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Nothing popped up on my MBUX screen, it just added the Tesla Superchargers automatically after enabling NACS in the Mercedes-Benz app. Try looking for nearby stations and set the filter to only display 150 > charging stations. You should see any nearby Tesla stations, at least it's working for me.
Does your charging settings filter in MBUX say "only mercedes charge" or "all providers" for you to see Tesla? I had to change it for the screen to show tesla.

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OK.. got Tesla to show up in app. Under filters enabled >150 kW. Enabled Mercedes Me Charge card and Merces app and MBUX. Unser preferences iun that filter screen, turned off EA. Now it shows EA, Charge Point and Tesla.
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Originally Posted by nevermindme
Thank you for the useful information. Here is my status so far:

1. My mobile app received the NACS popup (but only after I fiddled and went through some menus - don't remember which ones). I've enabled it.
2. Based on the discussions here (esp. the note by @LAZARU5) it looks like it is best to order the original OEM NACS adapter and not the lectron one as the former might have some mods that better suits Mercedes vehicles. Could you confirm that this adapter from mbpartssource (authorized OEM dealer) meets that criteria? I also called my dealer who asked me to come in, but I am hoping to avoid that trip
3. My MBUX HUD received a comms module update yesterday (says it allows future auto updates), but I am yet to receive the NACS popup on my HUD. In the mean time, when I changed my settings in the charging options on my car to select "all provides" vs "mercedes charge", tesla chargers do show up. Is that sufficient?

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You may need to turn off the plug and charge filter as well.
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