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Old 10-08-2021, 12:31 PM
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Pretty disappointing, especially compared to Lucid. We’ll see how it does in the real world, hopefully not much worse.
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Will be curious to see real world testing and whether it will out-perform its range. The Taycan of course is the benchmark for under promising and over-delivering for range, with it meeting its WLTP range consistently which is higher than the EPA, and Tesla being the exact opposite, with their EPA ranges being much higher than real world use. I still think the EPA's system for EV range is far too convoluted and confusing, and they should make it much similar by also providing a city and hwy range like they do for gas cars.
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Will be curious to see real world testing and whether it will out-perform its range. The Taycan of course is the benchmark for under promising and over-delivering for range, with it meeting its WLTP range consistently which is higher than the EPA, and Tesla being the exact opposite, with their EPA ranges being much higher than real world use. I still think the EPA's system for EV range is far too convoluted and confusing, and they should make it much similar by also providing a city and hwy range like they do for gas cars.
Also the EPA methodology does not take into account drag. The EQS has the lowest drag coefficient but an indoor stationary test on a dyno has no wind resistance. While they apply a factor for real world results, their factor doesnt differentiate between vehicles.
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Originally Posted by js_cls
Will be curious to see real world testing and whether it will out-perform its range. The Taycan of course is the benchmark for under promising and over-delivering for range, with it meeting its WLTP range consistently which is higher than the EPA, and Tesla being the exact opposite, with their EPA ranges being much higher than real world use. I still think the EPA's system for EV range is far too convoluted and confusing, and they should make it much similar by also providing a city and hwy range like they do for gas cars.
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...range-numbers/

EPA needs to fix their methodology.

Also 350 is for the EQS450. The EQS580 scored a range of 340 miles. I assume that is on the optimal wheel. Other wheels may have a lower range.
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Also the EPA methodology does not take into account drag. The EQS has the lowest drag coefficient but an indoor stationary test on a dyno has no wind resistance. While they apply a factor for real world results, their factor doesnt differentiate between vehicles.
I would assume that drag is taken into account in a formulaic way after the dyno test.
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I would assume that drag is taken into account in a formulaic way after the dyno test.
Yes you would think that would be the case.
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I would assume that drag is taken into account in a formulaic way after the dyno test.
My understanding is they use a fixed multiplier, instead of a formula based on the drag coefficient.
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test set up would matter a lot as well. i.e. what was regen setting?
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Thought this video applies well to this thread. The reviewer drives the EQS450 pretty hard and it shows a nice range estimate (car has a total of under 1000 miles). Also a section of the video focuses on charging.

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