What 14-50 and 20-30 Charging Cables Do You Carry?
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BTW If anyone wants a 16A-40A 120V-240V portable charger, then the BMW Flexible Fast Charger will be available for purchase standalone on September 22nd. The list price is $680 so I expect it will likely be available online around $600. The Ford is just over $400 but has 30A peak.
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Agree. I bought 2 ChargePoint home flex chargers because I didn’t want to lug them back and forth from Florida and RI. Plus I got them at a $500 discount each so it made the decision easy for me.
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BTW If anyone wants a 16A-40A 120V-240V portable charger, then the BMW Flexible Fast Charger will be available for purchase standalone on September 22nd. The list price is $680 so I expect it will likely be available online around $600. The Ford is just over $400 but has 30A peak.
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I realize this is an older text but I recently purchased a TeslaTap mini 80 for my one week old EQS. I mistakenly shipped the tap to my Florida home (I’m in RI now) so I haven’t been able to test it. I read somewhere where people were complaining about the tap getting stuck and recommended lube. Have you had a chance to test it and any problems? Just where is supposed to get stuck? Tap to car, or Tesla cord to tap. Thx.
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I realize this is an older text but I recently purchased a TeslaTap mini 80 for my one week old EQS. I mistakenly shipped the tap to my Florida home (I’m in RI now) so I haven’t been able to test it. I read somewhere where people were complaining about the tap getting stuck and recommended lube. Have you had a chance to test it and any problems? Just where is supposed to get stuck? Tap to car, or Tesla cord to tap. Thx.
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I have dielectric grease. I think that may work. I know you said you had no problem but what end do you lubricate.
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I went with this one to use with the 14-50 plug at my house (only used a half dozen times since there is an EA 150kw a mile away) and at a parking lot 40 amp charger near my second home.
https://www.amazon.com/MUSTART-Porta...63b24bcb5&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/MUSTART-Porta...63b24bcb5&th=1
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6/50 vs 14/50..... the 14/50 is heavier duty and thus safer. I have 14/50 in both of my homes. I use carry a Ford mobile 7.5 EVSE which has 2 plug "dongles" a 110 and a 14/50 I also carry a 6/50 adapter. I also carry a Tesla tap mini 80amp. At home I use a Chargepoint home flex which is excellent in all respects. I also bought a 14/50 extension cord that I can put in the car in case I decide to take a trip to the real boonies where there is no other infrastructure. Its huge and heavy so its a SHTF option that I just keep at home. After 10k miles I do my charging exclusively at home ( no DC charging in my area) DC fast charge on road trip ( succesfully every time) and have used the Tesla tap only once at a hotel just to see how it worked (perfectly).
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14-50 is actually NOT more heavy duty than 6-50 ! NEMA 14-50 has a neutral for those 240v devices that also need 120v (such as light in a dryer or oven). Most level 2 home chargers do not need 120v and a NEMA 6-50 is sufficient and uses less copper wiring since you don't need the neutral wire in the cable, thus easier to snake a new line. Both are equally safe with equivalent ground leads. 14-50 pretty standard in homes due to the type of appliances in the home. Often shops will just get by with 6-50 for their 240 single phase needs so if you anticipate charging at some backyard workshop it might pay to carry a 6-50 adapter. Hooking up to a dryer or electric grill outlet on a patio or home somewhere will probably need the 14-50. Life would be simpler if we just had a better charging infrastructure. I have almost no commercial DC fast chargers within my EQS driving range.
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14-50 is actually NOT more heavy duty than 6-50 ! NEMA 14-50 has a neutral for those 240v devices that also need 120v (such as light in a dryer or oven). Most level 2 home chargers do not need 120v and a NEMA 6-50 is sufficient and uses less copper wiring since you don't need the neutral wire in the cable, thus easier to snake a new line. Both are equally safe with equivalent ground leads. 14-50 pretty standard in homes due to the type of appliances in the home. Often shops will just get by with 6-50 for their 240 single phase needs so if you anticipate charging at some backyard workshop it might pay to carry a 6-50 adapter. Hooking up to a dryer or electric grill outlet on a patio or home somewhere will probably need the 14-50. Life would be simpler if we just had a better charging infrastructure. I have almost no commercial DC fast chargers within my EQS driving range.
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The fact remains the neither is safer than the other and both are equally robust if from the same manufacturer. You can't claim 14-50 is better just because that's what you have and use. The two standards exist to address different needs and 6-50 is fully adequate for a home wall mounted EV charger especially if the outlet has no other intended use.. Many offer either option plug and adaptors for that reason!
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The fact remains the neither is safer than the other and both are equally robust if from the same manufacturer. You can't claim 14-50 is better just because that's what you have and use. The two standards exist to address different needs and 6-50 is fully adequate for a home wall mounted EV charger especially if the outlet has no other intended use.. Many offer either option plug and adaptors for that reason!
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I have a BougeRV Level 2 portable NEMA 14-50 charger (32A) which works well in the 50A outlet at my hospital and installed a Wallbox Pulsar Plus level 2 (40A) at home which gives me the max 9.6kWh charging speed. Wish the on-board charger yielded a higher level 2 charge rate, but it gets the job done overnight and I don't plan to charge more than once a week unless I plan longer drives.
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I have a BougeRV Level 2 portable NEMA 14-50 charger (32A) which works well in the 50A outlet at my hospital and installed a Wallbox Pulsar Plus level 2 (40A) at home which gives me the max 9.6kWh charging speed. Wish the on-board charger yielded a higher level 2 charge rate, but it gets the job done overnight and I don't plan to charge more than once a week unless I plan longer drives.
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I agree a 11kw charger would have been great. In europe some areas can opt for a 22kw one. In the anything over 50 amp charger would be a major expense to instal. Ford offers a 22kW wall unit for their F150 Lightning. It makes sense since the batteries in pickups are enormous, without those you couldnt fill the battery overnight. 9.6 is ok . When on the road I us a Ford mobile charger wich is only 7.5 and it does fine too. Most public level 2 chargers are only 6.6 and if they are double you get only 3.3 when some uses the othe tap. Which is, quite frankly, very bad. The best lelel 2 public chargers to find are Teslas. They vary in speed but most will be 9.5 kw or better so you can get your fastest level 2 speed with your Tesla tap mini 80.
