Disappointed in my tires
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Disappointed in my tires
My EQS580 came equipped with run flat Bridgestone Turanzas. I figured I would get at least 30,000 miles with these. To my shocking surprise I need new tires with just over 16,000 miles. How can this be? My service guy told me that the great weight of the EQS580 has a lot to do with mileage on new run flat tires. I have been trying to keep the tire pressure to the factory recommended level but I’m sure with changing temperatures they weren’t always at 41 pounds.
What have you folks experienced with tires?
What have you folks experienced with tires?
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My EQS 450 4Matic SUV came with non-staggered 21” Goodyear Eagle Touring runflats. I rotated them twice and got almost 24K miles before changing to 20” wheels. There is 1/32” tread depth difference between the best and worst of the worn tires. I will try to get another 2000 miles out of the tires next Summer before the worst tire is shot. I think I could have gotten 28K to 30K miles if I had rotated them more frequently.
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I hope this thread doesn't turn into an RFT bashing. I've had experience with RFT since 2005. My experiences are negative with actual blow outs on the freeway about 5+ years ago. I monitor my tires every 2-3 months. However, my daughter's NX350 Sport has RFT, and while they are noisier than regular tires, she's not someone that can just stop and change her tire anywhere. RFT will typically give you lower mileage rating than regular tires. As for EV and RFT, I'm not a big fan, and will opt to get regular EV tires. For what you get for safety, you pay back in road noise and lower mileage rating . . . . regardless of what it says on the tire.
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I had Michelin PS3ZP runflats on my M550, in the past. They were awesome tires which replaced the OEM Goodyear F1 Asymmetric RFs that came on the car. The Michelins were quiet, grippy, and smooth. Loved them. I currently have Goodyear F1 Asymmetric (5th gen) non RFs on my 450+. I have 22K on them, with lots of tread left. They have been surprisingly good in every way. I have a spare, so do not need RFs But, if I did decide to run them I would again try to find the Michelin PS3ZPs.
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Thank you to all of you with your experiences. The dealer replaced the old Bridgestone Turanzas with new ones. They said that they did not have the Michelins. I can this for the Bridgestones. They are very quiet.
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Never buy all-season tires. The suck in every season. If you want a tire that is good or very good in all seasons buy Michelin Cross Climate, but they are not very sporty.
They are not EV optimized.
They are not EV optimized.
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I hate changing tires twice a year so I get all season tires. I’m sure these will last until my 3 year lease expires in May, 2025.
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I put on Continental DWS when we got our EQS. When I switched to winter tires, the DWS were down to 6/32nd--after less than 10,000 miles. My hunch is the EQS chews through tires due to its weight and its penchant for fast starts due to high power. However, this is not too far outside of my experience in the past 20 years of having various BMW's and Porsches. 20,000 miles was typical wear for me with BMW. This is a long way from my old 1992 Volvo 740 in the 1990's when I got over 80,000 miles out of one set of tires.
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My mantra, till I discovered the Michelin Crossclimate. However, they are not a "performance" tire. In that category they are just OK. Plus, they are not low rolling resistance either, so I don't think they would be a good idea for an EV. On our CRV's they are a superb solution to avoid the hassle of swapping twice a year, IMO the first true "all season" tire that does not suck all year! In the snow they are as adept as any of the better winter tires. In summer they are good as any other "sport touring" all season tires out there.
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My mantra, till I discovered the Michelin Crossclimate. However, they are not a "performance" tire. In that category they are just OK. Plus, they are not low rolling resistance either, so I don't think they would be a good idea for an EV. On our CRV's they are a superb solution to avoid the hassle of swapping twice a year, IMO the first true "all season" tire that does not suck all year! In the snow they are as adept as any of tge better winter tires.
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FWIW...I started doing dedicated snow tires living in northern WI way back in the 1990's. While DWS and Cross Climate are pretty good at everything, nothing compares to a fresh set of Blizzaks or Nokians in snow and ice. If the superior braking and stability save me from one accident or fender bender every ten years, it is worth it, considering my safety, damage to the car, hassle of fixing, reduced value, etc. Discount Tire makes it easy and cheap to switch over every season. About 1/2 the time I've bought a separate set of wheels, which I just sell on Ebay after I sell the car. Or, use on a different car--my old I Pace wheels and snow tires fit on my son-in-laws Ford Escape. My wife has a job that requires her to leave regardless of the weather, so perhaps we need snow tires more than some people.
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FWIW...I started doing dedicated snow tires living in northern WI way back in the 1990's. While DWS and Cross Climate are pretty good at everything, nothing compares to a fresh set of Blizzaks or Nokians in snow and ice. If the superior braking and stability save me from one accident or fender bender every ten years, it is worth it, considering my safety, damage to the car, hassle of fixing, reduced value, etc. Discount Tire makes it easy and cheap to switch over every season. About 1/2 the time I've bought a separate set of wheels, which I just sell on Ebay after I sell the car. Or, use on a different car--my old I Pace wheels and snow tires fit on my son-in-laws Ford Escape. My wife has a job that requires her to leave regardless of the weather, so perhaps we need snow tires more than some people.
On another subject, I noticed My EQS is wearing its LM005 unevenly I have an appointment to check it out. The car drives and stops without any pulling so I don't know what the issue is.
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FWIW...I started doing dedicated snow tires living in northern WI way back in the 1990's. While DWS and Cross Climate are pretty good at everything, nothing compares to a fresh set of Blizzaks or Nokians in snow and ice. If the superior braking and stability save me from one accident or fender bender every ten years, it is worth it, considering my safety, damage to the car, hassle of fixing, reduced value, etc. Discount Tire makes it easy and cheap to switch over every season. About 1/2 the time I've bought a separate set of wheels, which I just sell on Ebay after I sell the car. Or, use on a different car--my old I Pace wheels and snow tires fit on my son-in-laws Ford Escape. My wife has a job that requires her to leave regardless of the weather, so perhaps we need snow tires more than some people.
On another subject, I noticed My EQS is wearing its LM005 unevenly I have an appointment to check it out. The car drives and stops without any pulling so I don't know what the issue is.
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You have to try CrossClimates they are good or better than the Bridgestone LM005 snow-wise. Much, much better than the DWS from that perspective.
On another subject, I noticed My EQS is wearing its LM005 unevenly I have an appointment to check it out. The car drives and stops without any pulling so I don't know what the issue is.
On another subject, I noticed My EQS is wearing its LM005 unevenly I have an appointment to check it out. The car drives and stops without any pulling so I don't know what the issue is.
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Yah, I did try them on my daughter's Ford Fusion Energi. They were good, except worn out after only 20,000 miles. I got a partial warranty credit, and got her some Nokian tires. Her Fusion is heavy w/ a battery, but the 20,000 miles was disappointing considering they are suppose to be 60,000 mile tires.
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I downsized the wheels on my EQS SUV from 21" to 20" and mounted non-EV tuned 265/50R-20 PIRELLI SCORPION AS PLUS 3 XL tires. The tires have a treadwear rating of 800 and a 70K mileage warranty. I agree that is way too optimistic. However, I would not be surprised if the tires make it to 50K miles. The initial tread depth was 11/32". After 3200 miles the tread depth is measuring between 10.5/32" and 10.75/32". I averaged 39.9 kWh/100 miles for the first 20K miles on the factory installed EV-tuned 275/45R21 Goodyear Eagle Touring RunOnFlats. The 20" tires don't seem to have improved or degraded the mileage. To be fair I changed from 21" aero wheels to 20" conventional wheels so perhaps that offset any gain I may have seen with the 20" tires. Even though the width of the 20" tires is 10mm less than the width of the 21" tires, the actual tire patch is 8.9" wide on both tires. Some other 265/50R20 tires have a slightly narrower tread width, so perhaps they would result in better mileage.
