Mercedes to continue EVA2
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Lot of people like Cadillacs lol
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I wouldn't agree if you were comparing an S class to a previous generation 7 series. But an EQS to an i7, flips the sides with the EQS more of a driver's car than an i7 will ever be.
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EQS is considerably boatier and sloppier than the i7. The new 7 chassis really bests both the EQS and the W223 S Class.
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Have you driven an i7? First line "dynamically, this craps on the doorstep of the Mercedes EQS, its on another level"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H91AwGklWtM
EQS is considerably boatier and sloppier than the i7. The new 7 chassis really bests both the EQS and the W223 S Class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H91AwGklWtM
EQS is considerably boatier and sloppier than the i7. The new 7 chassis really bests both the EQS and the W223 S Class.
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What numbers? You can’t quantify the way a car rides and feels with numbers. If you watch comparison reviews almost all of them say the same thing, and having driven both I have to agree. This is the best riding and driving car in the segment right now.
I’m still going back and forth between this and the 223 S Class and I’m really not sure which will win, but ride and drive the 7 wins. Styling and panache the S Class wins. Interior 7 wins. The i7 is the best riding and driving car I have ever driven.
I’m still going back and forth between this and the 223 S Class and I’m really not sure which will win, but ride and drive the 7 wins. Styling and panache the S Class wins. Interior 7 wins. The i7 is the best riding and driving car I have ever driven.
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2022 Taycan GTS, 2023 EQS580 SUV, 2023 EQS580 sedan
the new i7 is too ugly, doesnt matter it is the best of the best of the best riding and driving car.
but it is personal preference, what I think or you think doesn't change other's. people here owns EQS, some might even test drove both cars. I agree previous generations 7 series and S series is way better looking. if EQS looks like GT63's front, the resell value won't be like this.
but it is personal preference, what I think or you think doesn't change other's. people here owns EQS, some might even test drove both cars. I agree previous generations 7 series and S series is way better looking. if EQS looks like GT63's front, the resell value won't be like this.
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the new i7 is too ugly, doesnt matter it is the best of the best of the best riding and driving car.
but it is personal preference, what I think or you think doesn't change other's. people here owns EQS, some might even test drove both cars. I agree previous generations 7 series and S series is way better looking. if EQS looks like GT63's front, the resell value won't be like this.
but it is personal preference, what I think or you think doesn't change other's. people here owns EQS, some might even test drove both cars. I agree previous generations 7 series and S series is way better looking. if EQS looks like GT63's front, the resell value won't be like this.
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What numbers? You can’t quantify the way a car rides and feels with numbers. If you watch comparison reviews almost all of them say the same thing, and having driven both I have to agree. This is the best riding and driving car in the segment right now.
I’m still going back and forth between this and the 223 S Class and I’m really not sure which will win, but ride and drive the 7 wins. Styling and panache the S Class wins. Interior 7 wins. The i7 is the best riding and driving car I have ever driven.
I’m still going back and forth between this and the 223 S Class and I’m really not sure which will win, but ride and drive the 7 wins. Styling and panache the S Class wins. Interior 7 wins. The i7 is the best riding and driving car I have ever driven.
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Have you driven an i7? First line "dynamically, this craps on the doorstep of the Mercedes EQS, its on another level"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H91AwGklWtM
EQS is considerably boatier and sloppier than the i7. The new 7 chassis really bests both the EQS and the W223 S Class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H91AwGklWtM
EQS is considerably boatier and sloppier than the i7. The new 7 chassis really bests both the EQS and the W223 S Class.
It would be a sin not to drive an i7 before going to the dark side and get a 23' AMG EQS loaded with S-class+ options. The only thing an EQS has less than the current S-class is space in the backseat arena. However, I did not test drive the m70 since it was not available at the time. In short, the i7 is the chauffer car while trying to maintain it's driver's car status. It's not necessarily inferior to the EQS, but it does not have anything superior to the EQS aside the backseat arena. That's it. So if you are big on rear seating and design is equal, get the i7.
The EQS is a forward design language. Right or wrong direction, it's a technological advancement in automotive without a doubt. Is it the design that people don't like or because it is an EV, or both? Who cares. I'm driving the damn thing, and blowing doors off 99% of the ICE out there while making my sandwich with Grey Poupon, and that's all it matters.
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What exactly does the MB.EA large intend to do that the EVA2 cannot do with additional modification? Anybody? Any insiders or journalists can tell me, please? Or was the MB.EA a marketing speak?
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He’s a professional car reviewer guys lol. I haven’t watched or read any reviews that say the EQS drives better than the i7, they are all the opposite.
I wish that were true but it’s just not. I drove them all back to back today, 760, i7 50, i7 60, S580 and EQS580. The EQS is just not on the same level as those other vehicles, feels more like an E Class inside. Rides nice but very boaty. All you guys saying the EQS (in non AMG form) is a handling car make zero sense to me lol. It doesn’t have an athletic bone in its body.
I was able to cross off the 760 and the i7 50 and EQS off the list, so it’s between the i7 60 and the S580. i7 is the nicest interior, the i7 rides incredibly well and is so solid and refined, but the S Class still has a special feel and appeal. EV vs ICE is part of it too, have to really think about it. Money is identical.
Interesting you guys are so defensive. W223 folks aren’t like that at all, in fact Streamliner has a whole thread in there about his i7 order and everybody is happy for him
I was able to cross off the 760 and the i7 50 and EQS off the list, so it’s between the i7 60 and the S580. i7 is the nicest interior, the i7 rides incredibly well and is so solid and refined, but the S Class still has a special feel and appeal. EV vs ICE is part of it too, have to really think about it. Money is identical.
Interesting you guys are so defensive. W223 folks aren’t like that at all, in fact Streamliner has a whole thread in there about his i7 order and everybody is happy for him
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Nobody is being defensive. It is only when you start speaking about your subjective design directions as if it is the truth based on the majority is when you start to sound narrow minded. I've been in the art/design world long enough to know that not all design/art are recognized and appreciated immediately, and the majority is not always right either.
What are you looking for? An athletic luxury boat? If that's your tea, test drive an AMG EQS pinnacle with executive package. Something that MSRP for $157K+ and report back. As for the i7 m60 vs. EQS580, performance and luxury category, they are likely the same on the streets and optioned except for the rear arena. EQS580 in sports+ is no couch potato. and it will steer on a dime just as good as an i7 m60. In the good old MB fashion, the EQS is about a car length or two faster in the straight line acceleration than the bimmer. On curves, the bimmer might have an edge on feel which may give you more confidence to push it harder.
What are you looking for? An athletic luxury boat? If that's your tea, test drive an AMG EQS pinnacle with executive package. Something that MSRP for $157K+ and report back. As for the i7 m60 vs. EQS580, performance and luxury category, they are likely the same on the streets and optioned except for the rear arena. EQS580 in sports+ is no couch potato. and it will steer on a dime just as good as an i7 m60. In the good old MB fashion, the EQS is about a car length or two faster in the straight line acceleration than the bimmer. On curves, the bimmer might have an edge on feel which may give you more confidence to push it harder.
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Then stop arguing about them with me lol. Everybody’s design opinions are subjective. Read my opinion and let it go.
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What are you looking for? An athletic luxury boat? If that's your tea, test drive an AMG EQS pinnacle with executive package. Something that MSRP for $157K+ and report back. As for the i7 m60 vs. EQS580, performance and luxury category, they are likely the same on the streets and optioned except for the rear arena. EQS580 in sports+ is no couch potato. and it will steer on a dime just as good as an i7 m60. In the good old MB fashion, the EQS is about a car length or two faster in the straight line acceleration than the bimmer. On curves, the bimmer might have an edge on feel which may give you more confidence to push it harder.
It’s interesting that i7 feels so much better than the 760, I think the weight of the batteries makes a difference. The 760 felt a little nervous at higher speeds…
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You have a better center of gravity in an i7 versus its ICE sissy.
I'm comparing the EQS580 with the i7 m60 agility and speed. If you are a "ride" guy, the i7 is better suited for you. However, if you are a driver guy, then the EQS580 is more agile (and faster) than the i7 m60. If the test drive allows you to get the tires squealing a bit, you'll notice the EQS580 will be more poised than the i7. Which chassis is better? A dedicated platform will likely always edge out vs. a multi-use platform, but of course, other technical nannies may level the end results. In the end, enjoy the leased i7 for a few years, and come back when the S-class turns EV. Let's not leave out the S63 e-performance, aka king kong with a a retrofitted mechanical arm.
I'm comparing the EQS580 with the i7 m60 agility and speed. If you are a "ride" guy, the i7 is better suited for you. However, if you are a driver guy, then the EQS580 is more agile (and faster) than the i7 m60. If the test drive allows you to get the tires squealing a bit, you'll notice the EQS580 will be more poised than the i7. Which chassis is better? A dedicated platform will likely always edge out vs. a multi-use platform, but of course, other technical nannies may level the end results. In the end, enjoy the leased i7 for a few years, and come back when the S-class turns EV. Let's not leave out the S63 e-performance, aka king kong with a a retrofitted mechanical arm.
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If any of you guys don't want to read what I post, just put me on your ignore list
Whats with the insult?
Center of gravity isn't going to help with ride quality. I'm talking about ride quality and straightline stability. Helps with handling sure.
Every review of the two I have watched and read disagrees. Honestly neither car is very agile, but I totally disagree that the EQS is more agile than the i7.
Here's another one:
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...sedan?slide=10
Car & Driver:
https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/eqs
C&D Ranks the EQS #11 in luxury EVs, i7 is #4:
I think the EQS looks better front but ot the rear or the sides. Especially from the rear quarter...it has a wider rear track and has some good looking haunches
To me it is, doesn't mean it is to everybody. The 7 Series is selling well, if thats any indication.
Whats with the insult?
Center of gravity isn't going to help with ride quality. I'm talking about ride quality and straightline stability. Helps with handling sure.
I'm comparing the EQS580 with the i7 m60 agility and speed. If you are a "ride" guy, the i7 is better suited for you. However, if you are a driver guy, then the EQS580 is more agile (and faster) than the i7 m60. If the test drive allows you to get the tires squealing a bit, you'll notice the EQS580 will be more poised than the i7.
Here's another one:
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...sedan?slide=10
Car & Driver:
https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/eqs
C&D Ranks the EQS #11 in luxury EVs, i7 is #4:
To me it is, doesn't mean it is to everybody. The 7 Series is selling well, if thats any indication.
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The EQ platform is excellent. I'd be extremly surprised if they changed it. You can put anything on it. As batteries improve they'll fit right in. What people dont understand that its a body on frame design, and the skateboard is almost infinitely configurable. This platform is not going anywhere.
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[QUOTE=SW20S;8974621]If any of you guys don't want to read what I post, just put me on your ignore list
Or.....you could just stop trolling the EQS forum, go buy your Bimmer, and drive into the sunset, Beaver teeth and all.......unless you decide to drive your Chrysler Pacifica minivan. Come on, Man.....leave us alone!
Or.....you could just stop trolling the EQS forum, go buy your Bimmer, and drive into the sunset, Beaver teeth and all.......unless you decide to drive your Chrysler Pacifica minivan. Come on, Man.....leave us alone!
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