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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 08:44 AM
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I went to a dealer today to place an order for a g63 and was told the current wait times are 12 months for a g550 and 24mos for a g63. I ended up ordering a 550 for this very reason, but it got me thinking if these times are accurate or should I look for another dealer?
I ordered a G550 in August 2018 and have been getting the runaround since. When someone comes in for a G63, they get bumped up the line since there's more margin in that spend. I got tired of waiting and bought a Tesla.
Want to buy my place in line? Delivery is Nov 2019. In SoCal.

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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 11:36 PM
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Perhaps the reason was that there was a constraint on Magno paints for a long long time.
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 08:01 AM
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Well I placed an order with them for a g550 in December and changed it to a 63 this week. They transferred my deposit over and it wasn’t an issue at all (other than waiting until October vs May for delivery). I’m not sure if that has something to do with having a 550 build slot though I doubt it given how the engines are built differently (the whole hand built aspect of the AMG) but who knows?

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“I doubt it given how the engines are built differently”
Engines are built exactly the same
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Surge
“I doubt it given how the engines are built differently”
Engines are built exactly the same

No, the 550 engine is built on a regular line. The 63 engine is hand built in Affalterbach. Much slower process.
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mercedesmax
No, the 550 engine is built on a regular line. The 63 engine is hand built in Affalterbach. Much slower process.
Would love to see proof of that, please send.
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Surge
Would love to see proof of that, please send.


https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/inn...iturbo-engine/
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 09:45 PM
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This is not proof of anything.
I meant evidence that the 4L V8 is not hand assembled in the G550. I think they are all assembled in the same AMG factory. They just don’t put the name on the engine for the non-AMG labelled engines. All the 4L V8s are basically the same, you know that right?
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Surge
This is not proof of anything.
I meant evidence that the 4L V8 is not hand assembled in the G550. I think they are all assembled in the same AMG factory. They just don’t put the name on the engine for the non-AMG labelled engines. All the 4L V8s are basically the same, you know that right?
I know that they ARE NOT the same. The M176 is assembled on the line in Stuttgart. The AMG motors are hand built in Affalterbach. There are a number of differences between the engines, hence the different numbers. Pistons, cranks, heads, turbo's, valves, all different.
Only the block itself is the same.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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MSRP for the Mercedes-Benz G550 will start at $127,650 while the Mercedes-AMG G63 will start at $152,500. The anticipated launch time for the 2020 G-Class will be Q4 2019.

So MBUSA figured out that if the CA dealers can sell the G's anywhere between $25k-$50k over MSRP then why not increase the base price for 2020 with $5k for G63 and $3.100 for G550. The biggest increase ever.

Is just common sense.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 12:35 PM
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MSRP for the Mercedes-Benz G550 will start at $127,650 while the Mercedes-AMG G63 will start at $152,500. The anticipated launch time for the 2020 G-Class will be Q4 2019.

So MBUSA figured out that if the CA dealers can sell the G's anywhere between $25k-$50k over MSRP then why not increase the base price for 2020 with $5k for G63 and $3.100 for G550. The biggest increase ever.

Is just common sense.

Wassaby, has pricing been released for the 2020s? Has the DOG been updated too?
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jghuman
Wassaby, has pricing been released for the 2020s? Has the DOG been updated too?
Yes, the pricing has been released like I said in my post, but there is not update yet in DOG or 2020 G orders.
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mercedesmax
I know that they ARE NOT the same. The M176 is assembled on the line in Stuttgart. The AMG motors are hand built in Affalterbach. There are a number of differences between the engines, hence the different numbers. Pistons, cranks, heads, turbo's, valves, all different.
Only the block itself is the same.
You’re not correct. Of course some parts are different, depending on output and model. But the engine is mostly the same. And you still haven’t provided proof of where the non-AMG badged 4L is assembled.
I own both AMG and non-AMG versions, so I’m not biased one way or another.
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vSb07
Was initially thinking of getting a used one, but went to the dealership and saw a 2019 and looked great!!!

I put a deposit down for a 2019 and dealer said would prob be end of 2019 or early 2020. This is for dealship in Midwest US.

i bet the price for 2018s will plummet as people can compare the old vs new model.

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Ordered mine in June 2018 and the dealer told me build date is first week of oct 2019 now I wonder how long it will take for me to receive the car in Miami fl.
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by reymusic
Ordered mine in June 2018 and the dealer told me build date is first week of oct 2019 now I wonder how long it will take for me to receive the car in Miami fl.
You should take delivery around Nov 20th.
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 01:55 AM
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"Ordered mine in June 2018 and the dealer told me build date is first week of oct 2019 now I wonder how long it will take for me to receive the car in Miami fl."


"You should take delivery around Nov 20th."

Frankly end-Nov/1st week December - have your dealer let you know when it gets put on the boat..
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Surge
You’re not correct. Of course some parts are different, depending on output and model. But the engine is mostly the same. And you still haven’t provided proof of where the non-AMG badged 4L is assembled.
I own both AMG and non-AMG versions, so I’m not biased one way or another.
Here you go

https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=14315879

From Daimler's release "The M 176 is produced at the Untertürkheim plant in Stuttgart."

Can't make it any plainer than that.
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 02:39 PM
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I ordered my 550 7/1/19 and was told it was built 9/15. Waiting to hear about shipping details...
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 06:06 PM
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New G550 available at msrp in case anyone interested
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mercedesmax
I know that they ARE NOT the same. The M176 is assembled on the line in Stuttgart. The AMG motors are hand built in Affalterbach. There are a number of differences between the engines, hence the different numbers. Pistons, cranks, heads, turbo's, valves, all different.
Only the block itself is the same.
Correct and correct
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Originally Posted by Surge
You’re not correct. Of course some parts are different, depending on output and model. But the engine is mostly the same. And you still haven’t provided proof of where the non-AMG badged 4L is assembled.
I own both AMG and non-AMG versions, so I’m not biased one way or another.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced...77/M178_engine

They're different. Manufactured in different locations. End of discussion.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced...77/M178_engine

They're different. Manufactured in different locations. End of discussion.
Actually that Wikipedia entry seems to confirm that all variants are far more alike than similar. The M178 is dry-sump, which I would regard as a major difference. But the M176/M177 have the same displacement, compression ratios, bore, stroke, weight? I’m sure the AMG version has some fancier parts and clearly it’s built in a different plant, but actually this entry supports my suspicions that the major difference in power output between the 550 and 63 is attributable to computer tuning, probably boost levels...
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Originally Posted by Ersatzs2
Actually that Wikipedia entry seems to confirm that all variants are far more alike than similar. The M178 is dry-sump, which I would regard as a major difference. But the M176/M177 have the same displacement, compression ratios, bore, stroke, weight? I’m sure the AMG version has some fancier parts and clearly it’s built in a different plant, but actually this entry supports my suspicions that the major difference in power output between the 550 and 63 is attributable to computer tuning, probably boost levels...
Completely different turbochargers...biggest change. Transmission contact plate different, etc. etc. Drive a G63 back to back to a RENNtech-tuned G550...still not the same...even though the power output is the same with the RENNtech-tuned G550. The 63 is just different in feel, poise, etc.
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 08:50 AM
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Placed my G63 order on Oct 8th at my dealership in Georgia. Has the turnover time been reduced? He's stating 6-9 months
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 09:02 AM
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Placed my G63 order on Oct 8th at my dealership in Georgia. Has the turnover time been reduced? He's stating 6-9 months
Depends on the number of allocations they get and how long the waitlist is. Every dealer is different.
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