Jandos

Some spy shots of g63 have appeared online with fully covered interior. Does it mean MBUX, and maybe interior refresh is ccoming to 2022/2023 g class? Is mbux worth the wait or should i just buy one right now?

2001g63

here in Dubai g's are very popular and dealers here have confirmed that 2023's will have mbux. we got my22's here and their the exact same as my21's, my23 deliveries will start from December and onwards here in Dubai from what I heard. I payed 29,000usd for the order hahahaha. Its expensive too order here in Dubai and its non refundable.

NatsCaps

What if the 2023 model is not a V8?

haa

Based on the leaks it will be a V8 with MBUX and facelifted front and rear bumpers!

NatsCaps

I saw the leaks. What makes you think its a V8 and not a V6?

ColeBlooded

https://www.motor1.com/news/534991/m...uality-issues/

NatsCaps

spoke with an MB exec and he heard rumblings about the New G having a V6 with acoustics made to sound like a V8. That would suck

eugenes

When you know SL will have a m177 v8, we can be pretty sure that the G will have the v8.
AMG specifically said that they will sell v8s for 10 more years.
Why would they put in a v6 in their one of the most expensive vehicle??

Deezwho

doubt a V6 could adequately power a G without some sort of hybrid boost.
no spy shots have shown testing of a hybrid so far. If anything I’d expect a V8 alone or V8 plus mild hybrid.

haa

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/12/me...eable-updates/

W205C43PFL

Is the G-wagen getting MBUX 1.0 (NTG 6.0) or MBUX 2.0 (myMBUX, NTG 7.0)? I am curious how the facelift G-wagen would implement MBUX 2.0 without the W223 style middle screen.

In one country so I heard from a news article, the G-wagen was sold as a G 350 (specifically without the d) with the 2.0L 4-cylinder making 299hp, 295lb/ft of torque. However that is just to satisfy that particular country's strict emissions plus to help the buyer avoid taxes on high displacement engines. I don't see why the top trim G-wagen won't get a V8 across the world though. I mean it has to be a V8, it is either V8 or nothing! What happened to The best or Nothing, Mercedes? Either put the V8 inside or don't sell a G-wagen with an engine smaller than that. Anything below that is no longer "The best".

NatsCaps

Here's a V6 Gwagon --->>

Craig B

I had a diesel BMW X5, complete lemon, never again! There’s still a class action lawsuit going on.

Deezwho

bro that’s a diesel. Totally different system. And it sucks.

USA spec GLS 450 with gas 6 cylinder and mild hybrid puts out 368 ft lb of torque
Euro spec g350d puts out 443 ft lb of torque.

that’s a significant difference and yet the g350d still underperforms. 0-60 in 7.4. I think my old Toyota Camry did better than that 10 years ago.

Craig B

Mercedes also had trouble with the Diesel engines in the ML and G, not G Wagons. They’ve discontinued them. BMW and VW were caught cheating emissions. Mine was a twin turbo diesel. It was in the dealership’s garage more than mine. BMW offered a trade assist, I should have taken it, but I was so aggravated, I traded it for a new Lexus GX. I would have to keep gloves in a zip lock bag because when I filled up with fuel, the smell would get on my hands. Had to get the diesel exhaust fluid changed once a year and it was messy, they got it on my paint. It used to stink up my garage when it was burning something off the exhaust.

eugenes

BMW did not get caught cheating emissions.
Volkswagon group and Mercedes were caught cheating.
BMW's diesel engine's EGR got overheated trying to meet emission requirements, which caused the cars to catch fire.
This is why they had a massive recall for BMW.

They still sell 350 and 400d diesel engines in Europe and Asia.
For G they have the G400d. This particular diesel engine still has many issues.

Craig B

There’s still an ongoing class action lawsuit for the BMW diesel that I’m a claimant. Either way, I’m not interested in another diesel.

eugenes

If that's the case, then you should be right.
I guess that concludes that every German auto manufacturer is a fraud.
I agree that I am not interested in another diesel as well.

Craig B

They were involved in cheating emissions, Google it.

Germancar1

I wouldn't count on a V6 anything as Mercedes is using an I6 now. The G350d and others are a diesel I6, not a V6. I would bet on the V8 coming back to the U.S. market with MBUX for the 2023 model year. I would love to know what the issue is with the U.S. version because the rest of the world is still getting the G550 and G63 models. Either way they aren't going to let this go on for long, there is way too much money being left on the table in the U.S. market with no G to sell. There is a new Range Rover and a new Lexus LX600 just dying to get to market with no G to compete with.

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Germancar1

Get as far away from this person as possible. They have no clue what they're talking about. There is no V6 coming in a G model in the U.S. or anywhere. An I6 is possible since they sell other version of the G elsewhere with an I6, but I doubt that will come to the U.S. as a petrol model.

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3.Pointed.Czar

Agreed, its coming back.

Jagdpanzer

I know many want the the MBUX, I am not one. I have a vehicle with a screen where you have to go into it just to access the heated steering wheel or the heated seats along with other simplified things. Buttons are so much easier. Then there's the finger printed up screens. I feel going into screens takes too much eyes off the road time and would much rather have buttons and knobs, rather than looking down at a screen and going into this and then turning that on or off through a menu. Thats just me and welcome anything new and if it is better so be it. Maybe I am just set in my ways. (:

the2thdr

100% right on all points. People/manufacturers are starting to confuse gimmicks with real progress/innovation. I walked from an RS6 because of the sheer idiocy of having to go through 4 screens to activate heated seats. I actively run now from many vehicles with digital screens. True, you cannot avoid them in some, but the 2019-2021 G63 has a very good blend of screen/button tech. I have always been a fan of iDrive from 2016 on in my X5M's, and really like their hand gestures for increasing volume for instance. Having said that, very comfortable now with the Mercedes Command systems now that I can just live within the CarPlay ecosphere. If I had my choice, I would go back to buttons for a lot of things, but I like the analog more than the digital. At least Mercedes uses a classic speedometer/tachometer in their vehicles rather than the reverse-sweep tachometer in BMW's and the linear ones that Audi now likes. Was the conventional round gauge (digital or analog) broken?

YMMV.

abhatti55

Will be interesting to see if they keep the steering wheel with touchpads or go to the new S-class/facelifted wheel. The GLE/GLS retains the wheel similar to ours running MBUX which seems like the best option as the on the new S it is terrible and very distracting. Don't think the dash allows enough room for a HUD, based on the spy pics we see additional radars upfront. Any guesses on what driver assistance features will be added? Hopefully LKA will work better.