Sshhhh! You're gonna kill Tesla's trillion dollar market cap if the EV road tax plan leaks out (lol).

 

There’s already a road tax for EV’s in Missouri.

 

Right now it's pretty low in states. Be interesting as more people get on board and aren't buying fuel, to see if they can keep those prices down

 

If its one thing the gov is good at, its finding new and exciting ways to tax us lol. There's no way they give up the revenue stream that gas taxes have provided for decades so there will definitely be one for EVs. What really blows (specially for us petrol heads) is that gas taxes will certainly rise as EV's become more prevalent so the gov can turn around and tell the masses "hey we did something about climate change". There's no winning either way

 

Agree 100 percent!

 

FWIW, today's Carfax report for my '19 G550 (12K miles) estimates its trade-in value at $172K (US), up $12K (7.5%) from last month's $160K estimate. It's MSRP was $141K when delivered 27 months ago.

 

If you are thinking of selling and getting a different car then now is the time!!! These are mass produced cars and will be worth $0 in just a few years, not an investment!!!!

 

My dealership has tried to buy mine back 5 times, I asked them, can you replace it. I told them $100K more than I paid so they would quit asking, 21 G 63. What am I supposed to do, ride the bus, LoL

 

I just got word my G63 came in, been a bit over 10 months and I will be picking it up tomorrow. Cant wait to smell the leather and look over those frog eyes soon (: They told me a few customers are already trying to buy it. I said rope it off and put a guard up.

 

Congratulations, take some pictures.

 

Thanks and I sure will, I found my prior unit in my albums. But I will get her done. (:

 

Investment is trying to gain profitable returns or an appreciation in value on a good or service. So to the people that made 50 to 100K or more speculating and selling, why is it not an investment! How many new units do you see on a lot at any given time compared to other makers, including high end SUV types. They are allocated and demand has always been higher than supply. Yes pricing will come down sometime. But to say they will be worth 0 in a few years is laughable. A more valid statement maybe to say is they will be worth less in a few years. Most autos do depreciate and some way less than others. If you bought in good, you have a nice margin to work with.

 

IIWY, I'd be doing guard duty tonight myself, along with my two best friends Messrs. Smith and Wesson (lol).
Congrats, enjoy!

 

Thank you and funny you should say that, I have those ole friends as well, including uncle HK and brother Colt (:

 

Congrats Jag looking forward to seeing delivery pictures! I miss threads about build options and seeing photos at delivery--can't wait for the 2023s to come out.

 

Thanks Hodog, I sure will. Getting it midday tomorrow. I am the same way, love photos and options that people share. I have a 21 and I cant wait to see the 2023s as well. I am already an old timer lol

 

Continuing on the OP topic, my dealer has 3 G63s and 2 G550s on its lot (a never before event, I'm sure). Internet prices are ~ MSRP + $150K and +$100K, respectively (although the MSRPs aren't disclosed). Will be interesting to see how long they sit there (the China Blue G63 with the red interior will be a tough sell at $303K, IMO).

 

3 G63s does seem like a lot until I noticed that MB Hoffman Estates currently has 48 (yes, forty eight) G63s and MB Scottsdale has 30 (thirty) for sale!!

https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/sear...&Model=G-Class

https://www.mbscottsdale.com/used-me...S+Suv&limit=30

 

[QUOTE=MayhemD90;8482010]3 G63s does seem like a lot until I noticed that MB Hoffman Estates currently has 48 (yes, forty eight) G63s and MB Scottsdale has 30 (thirty) for sale!!

https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/sear...&Model=G-Class

https://www.mbscottsdale.com/used-me...S+Suv&limit=30


Respectfully playing the devils advocate here. Sometimes there is an automated process when a unit is in transit to the dealer from factory that the listing will auto populate on the site. I think sometimes it can actually link to 3rd party sites and get cross linked as well. Usually it is an automated process if I am not mistaken. Many times auto's that have been sold will show up on sites until the customer closes the deal. That happened with my G63 that came in a couple weeks ago. It was sold to me, but it went on my dealers site the day or two before I picked it up and they had 3 or 4 buyers calling from different states offering to buy it since they saw it on line. I ran into scenarios like this when I was searching dealers for Gs when I thought my deal might not happen. I may be wrong and am not saying this is so. I am just wondering is all. I am not sure if it happens on used autos, but one site looked like a few were low mileage new and also had many listed with no images yet. Possible incomings, I am not sure.

 

[QUOTE=Jagdpanzer;8482030]Good eye! I definitely think you're onto something as I thought there's no way they have THAT many in stock just sitting there available. Both dealers seem to have a fair # of used units but a number are new and I suspect that those new units (especially with no images and no mileage yet) are actually spoken for as you mentioned. I just did a quick count and of the 48 at Hoffman Estates only 4 have less than 200 miles so suspect those are new units - the rest (44) seem to be used. At Scottsdale, of the 30 they currently have listed, 5 appear to be "new" with delivery miles so 25 are used units that appear to be available. Of the 25 used, 11 of those used units have less than 250 miles and each appear to be Certified Pre-Owned with one prior owner.

 

I too would be surprised if all these Gs are physically on-lot at these two dealerships. However, these two regional markets are affluent, and are likely the most receptive to price insanity, so this might just be marketeering. That so many low mileage CPO Gs are available says that their original owners grew weary of $4K/mo payments, decided to make a quick $50K, or both. They're all over-priced now, and it will be amusing to watch the market next year before the G's reincarnation appears. If these MY2019 - 21 prices remain stable, MY2023 asking prices will be 2+ x MSRP.

 

[QUOTE=Jagdpanzer;8482030]In general if you see photos or the cars are used then they are available on the dealer floor. Dealers don’t waste time generally posting photos of pre-sold new cars in transit and don’t have the time to take those photos because the customers are usually eager to pick up their long awaited new cars.

 

[QUOTE=MayhemD90;8482037]Its all good and I was curious more than anything. Thanks for sharing the info and I can't wait to see the new 2023s. (:

 

[QUOTE=haa;8482142]I ran into it where it did happen many times when searching for a G. Find it on a dealer site, call, and they said it has been pre sold. It happened to my 21 G63 and it was a pre sold new auto, and it is automated as I mentioned before. I was also told by the dealer after questioning the process. But on the used ones I get what you are saying and sometimes I am sure it happens on new. Just sharing what I found out and what happened to me

 

[QUOTE=Jagdpanzer;8482030]Many MB and luxury car dealers are getting the last wave of G production to sell as "used" w very low miles. Many customers were told by MB dealers that their allocation for 22 was canceled but the extra 21 production was transferred to dealers.
Business is Business.
The dealers have created a new market for the G but this will not last long. The MB Hofmann has a wide price range starting in 257. Their inventory is not moving quickly. Asking price went down on AutotraAutotrader Christmas
There was a 21 G63 w 14 k miles listed on Autotrader for 215k in Austin, TX, it did not last long. Whole sales value is still in the 230 to 250 range based on MSRP.
While G 63 is very popular, customers who want to pay 280 to 300k for a car, are also considering Lamborghini and Bentley SUV.
Dealers are dwelling on the supply and demand theory, once the new 23 model is shown w a face lift and potential new interior, the bubble will burst.