Considering a G63 2023
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Considering a G63 2023
After 10 years of owning and meticulously maintaining my cars.
I'm finally ready to make my dream of owning a G63 a reality.
Should I go for a slightly marked-up 2023 model from the secondary market now or wait for the 2025 release?
Your experiences and advice matter! Ever been in a similar dilemma? Share your thoughts!
I'm finally ready to make my dream of owning a G63 a reality.
Should I go for a slightly marked-up 2023 model from the secondary market now or wait for the 2025 release?
Your experiences and advice matter! Ever been in a similar dilemma? Share your thoughts!
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MY25 G63s will start production around September of 2024. The waitlist for a custom order is usually 12-24 months. Buying a new G63 off the lot usually means paying high ADM so unless you are willing to pay $30-50k over sticker or wait 1-2 years for a MY25 or MY26 model, I’d go with the 2023…
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If you have the means what I'd do - get a 2023 if the mark-up is digestible and then get in line for the 2025 and trade in the 2023 for the 2025.
Otherwise if you can find a dealer who can get you a 2025 at MSRP, then I'd wait.
However, if they are going to mark-up the 2025, I'd just get the 2023 and enjoy it now.
Otherwise if you can find a dealer who can get you a 2025 at MSRP, then I'd wait.
However, if they are going to mark-up the 2025, I'd just get the 2023 and enjoy it now.
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After 10 years of owning and meticulously maintaining my cars.
I'm finally ready to make my dream of owning a G63 a reality.
Should I go for a slightly marked-up 2023 model from the secondary market now or wait for the 2025 release?
Your experiences and advice matter! Ever been in a similar dilemma? Share your thoughts!
I'm finally ready to make my dream of owning a G63 a reality.
Should I go for a slightly marked-up 2023 model from the secondary market now or wait for the 2025 release?
Your experiences and advice matter! Ever been in a similar dilemma? Share your thoughts!
2025 model year is refresh so waitlist will be longgg.
Enjoy the 2023 for time being and get in life for 2025. Good luck.
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Waiting might not get you what you want or within a reasonable timeline.
There are forum members who have been waiting for two years only to find out they aren't getting one any time soon or at the previously agreed price.
I can't say for sure if you'll get a 2025 model, since I don't know how you and the MB dealer get along.
It's pretty unlikely to get one at a reasonable (need your definition of reasonable or whether that even matters) markup, let alone at the MSRP.
The 2025s are really popular, and usually, only people who are tight with their dealer get one.
There are forum members who have been waiting for two years only to find out they aren't getting one any time soon or at the previously agreed price.
I can't say for sure if you'll get a 2025 model, since I don't know how you and the MB dealer get along.
It's pretty unlikely to get one at a reasonable (need your definition of reasonable or whether that even matters) markup, let alone at the MSRP.
The 2025s are really popular, and usually, only people who are tight with their dealer get one.
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Recency Bias
After 10 years of owning and meticulously maintaining my cars.
I'm finally ready to make my dream of owning a G63 a reality.
Should I go for a slightly marked-up 2023 model from the secondary market now or wait for the 2025 release?
Your experiences and advice matter! Ever been in a similar dilemma? Share your thoughts!
I'm finally ready to make my dream of owning a G63 a reality.
Should I go for a slightly marked-up 2023 model from the secondary market now or wait for the 2025 release?
Your experiences and advice matter! Ever been in a similar dilemma? Share your thoughts!
Most people suffer from recency bias.- (tendency to overemphasize the importance of recent experiences or the latest information when estimating future events)
They think that the recent markups and wait lists will last forever, they won't.
Markets change quickly as the Porsche market just changed in the UK.
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they'll keep making fewer and fewer of these from now on (even if a new model is on the horizon)..
if you can get your hands on one that's close to msrp and matches your preferences..color, etc. go get one now..or else order one from a dealer who's willing to work with you
if you can get your hands on one that's close to msrp and matches your preferences..color, etc. go get one now..or else order one from a dealer who's willing to work with you
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Dont eat everything your dealer is feeding you...If you go look at actual numbers, MB is producing a TON more current generation G's than any previous generation and its not even close.
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The best one was the "end of the V8's" peak Covid hype that led to stupid ADM's. Most dealers are surviving off G wagons sales and yes they are mass produced like Corollas. MB is making sure they get their share with yearly MSRP bumps for essentially unchanged model since 2019 release.
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How does one go about this? I’m getting ghosted when I ask if MSRP is a possibility. Strategy? Reached out to multiple dealers. Edited to say, you can't just reach out to a few dealers. You have to go nation wide for better results.
Last edited by SLS; Dec 8, 2023 at 05:11 PM.
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SAs are chasing ADM and a commission so they won’t bother with MSRP if you’re reaching out online. You’ll have better luck walking into your local dealer. Talk to the sales manager or GM. It also helps if you are already a customer with the dealer.
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First of all, most sales managers and all GM's will blow you off. Unless it's a tiny mom and pop store. SM's and GM's LOVE the markup ability of the G wagens. Really makes the bottom line that they get paid on look good. The only realistic way to get one at MSRP in a major urban market is to already be a VIP customer of a specific dealership and salesperson.
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Good for you. I'd bet most people cold calling a dealership won't have that experience and I'd bet it would hold true even for your store. Hell, it's hard to get an SM on the phone at most dealers to talk about a dealer trade.
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Why would they give it up when they know they can get it? It's not salesperson driven. Most dealerships pay flats on those cars to salespeople. If you've been a long time customer whose bought a lot of high end cars, then the SM will know who you are and it's easier.
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If you have the means what I'd do - get a 2023 if the mark-up is digestible and then get in line for the 2025 and trade in the 2023 for the 2025.
Otherwise if you can find a dealer who can get you a 2025 at MSRP, then I'd wait.
However, if they are going to mark-up the 2025, I'd just get the 2023 and enjoy it now.
Otherwise if you can find a dealer who can get you a 2025 at MSRP, then I'd wait.
However, if they are going to mark-up the 2025, I'd just get the 2023 and enjoy it now.
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Look I get it. It’s a business and dealers, yourself included, are trying to get as much money as they can on every sale. But not all SMs and GMs are a-holes who will refuse to talk to a new customer or take an existing customer relationship to the next level…
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Has nothing to do with that. They are just very busy people. There is a reason why salespeople exist. Trying to short circuit the process rarely leads to the desired result. It's simply bad advice on your part. If a dealership's policy is to sell above MSRP your not going to change it. If you are an established customer, talk to your salesperson first. Let them talk to the SM.
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My advice is exactly what I did which worked for me. I understand if this advice won’t work in your market but that doesn’t mean every market is like yours. Also, I’ve been through 3 separate SAs in the past year while waiting on my MY24 G63 order. SA turnover is like 200% so if the SM or GM is willing to work with you directly you’ll get better service imo. Obviously YMMV…
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You are lucky that the dealer has kept you in the loop despite SA turnover.
At one local dealer I put in a request back in 2021 and since then have had two SA turnover and each time I get taken off the list because of the way the dealer handles requests. Neither time was I told about the SA turnover until I either called or dropped in.
Since that original request I’ve been offered four allocations from four other dealers in the state, two of which I ended up buying from, so I’m glad I cast a wide net because some dealers know what they are doing.
At one local dealer I put in a request back in 2021 and since then have had two SA turnover and each time I get taken off the list because of the way the dealer handles requests. Neither time was I told about the SA turnover until I either called or dropped in.
Since that original request I’ve been offered four allocations from four other dealers in the state, two of which I ended up buying from, so I’m glad I cast a wide net because some dealers know what they are doing.
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Yeah I’m very happy with the relationship with my dealer. Great customer service overall. My main POC is the GM and anytime they had SA turnover he would call me direct to let me know of the change. And it’s not like I’m a “VIP”. This is the first vehicle I am purchasing from them but I have been servicing my 21 G550 with them for years.
When I bought my 21 G550 they had a waitlist for allocations so I ended up getting one from another nearby dealer. When I decided it was time to upgrade to a 23 G550 I spoke with the GM and he set me up with a SA for a custom order at MSRP. Then when the factory changed my spec last minute when closing out the 23 models the GM called me personally to offer an allocation for a 24 G63 at MSRP for the inconvenience, which I just took delivery of.
It’s customer service like this that will make me a customer for life, whereas other dealers just see you as a walking ATM…
When I bought my 21 G550 they had a waitlist for allocations so I ended up getting one from another nearby dealer. When I decided it was time to upgrade to a 23 G550 I spoke with the GM and he set me up with a SA for a custom order at MSRP. Then when the factory changed my spec last minute when closing out the 23 models the GM called me personally to offer an allocation for a 24 G63 at MSRP for the inconvenience, which I just took delivery of.
It’s customer service like this that will make me a customer for life, whereas other dealers just see you as a walking ATM…
