Banned at Club Lexus!!!
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was '03 E320 - now - '04 S4
S55 - Looks like you are entitled to your opinion X3 
I had a run-in with a moderator @ CL before. He was (and still is) an immature jerk.
I still think you were trolling though. Just my opinion.
I had a run-in with a moderator @ CL before. He was (and still is) an immature jerk.
I still think you were trolling though. Just my opinion.
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Lexus is chasing MB for good
Hey, guys just to say Hi.
Yes, Toyota/Lexus is still chasing MB and BMW and that's their goal when they're created Lexus division. I think it's good for consumers and the manufacturers to make better products. As for MB, they'll need make better product and as for Lexus they'll need to make even better product than MB for Lexus to be able to stay in this game.
Everybody at CL loves the AMG, the S-Class, the E-class, the M3/M5 and every good car out there. I think they all great cars and I wish to ride in one of them.
The MB stand for prestige.
The Bmw for performance.
The Volvo for safety.
Then, Lexus will want to be in Luxury.
S55, I'm sorry about CL banned you while MB is down and you're trolling on CL. I can go to every car forums and pick one wiht the most complaint, then start a thread. I'm one of the moderator that voted for you to be ban. I know you're a cool guy and loves car, as you alway say, I like Lexus, but and , but, and , but... I know with this post on MB, I will get my **** whoope by the guys on CL, but I have to say something.
As 1Sicklex said the guys over MB are so cool and most of them not even know about the aftermarket parts for their MB. Heck, they're just enjoy the MB and not even think about the problem or aftermarket parts for their car.
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Yes, Toyota/Lexus is still chasing MB and BMW and that's their goal when they're created Lexus division. I think it's good for consumers and the manufacturers to make better products. As for MB, they'll need make better product and as for Lexus they'll need to make even better product than MB for Lexus to be able to stay in this game.
Everybody at CL loves the AMG, the S-Class, the E-class, the M3/M5 and every good car out there. I think they all great cars and I wish to ride in one of them.
The MB stand for prestige.
The Bmw for performance.
The Volvo for safety.
Then, Lexus will want to be in Luxury.
S55, I'm sorry about CL banned you while MB is down and you're trolling on CL. I can go to every car forums and pick one wiht the most complaint, then start a thread. I'm one of the moderator that voted for you to be ban. I know you're a cool guy and loves car, as you alway say, I like Lexus, but and , but, and , but... I know with this post on MB, I will get my **** whoope by the guys on CL, but I have to say something.
As 1Sicklex said the guys over MB are so cool and most of them not even know about the aftermarket parts for their MB. Heck, they're just enjoy the MB and not even think about the problem or aftermarket parts for their car.
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For me, after reading about the ban I decided not to even bother going there to read about the debate, as the site is obviously run by a bunch of inexperienced naive fools.
You probably couldn't figure out how to work a link.
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Not a Benzer anymore
In Regards to the Crossfire...
Who is running the show?
Its all about Daimler-Chrysler...
It might be just me, but the interior of the Crossfire looks very much Mercedes-Benz like.
The question of re-badging is this: How much difference is required to be considered unique?
On another Chrysler note, the new 300 is based on the old W210. What type of rebadging is this? Is Chrysler just getting MB hand-me downs?
Its all about Daimler-Chrysler...
It might be just me, but the interior of the Crossfire looks very much Mercedes-Benz like.
The question of re-badging is this: How much difference is required to be considered unique?
On another Chrysler note, the new 300 is based on the old W210. What type of rebadging is this? Is Chrysler just getting MB hand-me downs?
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hey guys,
it seems that MB is passing down to Chrysler a lot of the their outgoing models engineering.
not a bad a idea.
does anyone know if any of the current V8 engines is
slated to go into a Chrysler?...my guess is they will
wait until the new multivalve engines are available
in MB's before we see this happen.
if they were to do that now i feel it would cheapen the
MB brand.
hey...1sicklex...go up to the S class forum. check out the
thread i started "banned at....". check out some of the posts
from n_gillis(he rips me a new a@#hole!!!)....he's not even getting banned from MBworld.
how long would he last at Club Lexus?
it seems that MB is passing down to Chrysler a lot of the their outgoing models engineering.
not a bad a idea.
does anyone know if any of the current V8 engines is
slated to go into a Chrysler?...my guess is they will
wait until the new multivalve engines are available
in MB's before we see this happen.
if they were to do that now i feel it would cheapen the
MB brand.
hey...1sicklex...go up to the S class forum. check out the
thread i started "banned at....". check out some of the posts
from n_gillis(he rips me a new a@#hole!!!)....he's not even getting banned from MBworld.
how long would he last at Club Lexus?
Last edited by S55inPA; Nov 17, 2003 at 09:42 AM.
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Not a Benzer anymore
Maybe The Lexus Moderator Thought...
That the Lexus board is a fun board and that some posts were, nothing more than, a yell of "Fire in a theatre.."
Where there is no need to start a fire.
Where there is no need to start a fire.
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Re: In Regards to the Crossfire...
Originally posted by EddieGTP
Who is running the show?
Its all about Daimler-Chrysler...
It might be just me, but the interior of the Crossfire looks very much Mercedes-Benz like.
The question of re-badging is this: How much difference is required to be considered unique?
On another Chrysler note, the new 300 is based on the old W210. What type of rebadging is this? Is Chrysler just getting MB hand-me downs?
Who is running the show?
Its all about Daimler-Chrysler...
It might be just me, but the interior of the Crossfire looks very much Mercedes-Benz like.
The question of re-badging is this: How much difference is required to be considered unique?
On another Chrysler note, the new 300 is based on the old W210. What type of rebadging is this? Is Chrysler just getting MB hand-me downs?
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how long would he last at Club Lexus
It says a lot about Chrysler if their best car is an 8 year old SLK.
No one is considering Chrysler upmarket, just like VW.
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Banned at Club Lexus
Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...hreadid=101452
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...hreadid=101405
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...hreadid=101452
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...hreadid=101405
The one that got me was the last guy who wrote about lies, and the people who write them. What's that all about. I signed up and tried to post but they came back and said the post was closed.
Wow.........talk about some up tight people.
Hell...........I like Lexus. Just won't own one yet. Not until they quit copying everyone else.........especially the MB S-class. The only ones that are not copies are the IS300 and GS300. And God help us if they could breed........got to be the most butt ugly cars out there. No idea what the car is trying to say........One looks like a 'kit' car and the other a total 'pimp' ride. And what's with those stupid extra add-on tail lights?
The LS430 is a well made ripoff of an older S Sedan. Nothing original at all....:o
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From: Wilkes Barre Pa.
Fiscal Neo Con Express
hey guys,
i talked with my local lexus dealeryesterday.
he claims the new GS won't be available for at least
1 more year. my guess is Lexus might be playing catchup
in the HP department...that 's why the longer introduction
time. he also claimed to have seen the new GS. he said it looked terrific. my guess is the new GS will be a really fantastic car. Lexus when it wants can really produce an exciting vehicle...ie. when the current GS was released i thought it was a really attractive vehicle . more of what we talked about is posted on a thread
in the Sclass forum.
i talked with my local lexus dealeryesterday.
he claims the new GS won't be available for at least
1 more year. my guess is Lexus might be playing catchup
in the HP department...that 's why the longer introduction
time. he also claimed to have seen the new GS. he said it looked terrific. my guess is the new GS will be a really fantastic car. Lexus when it wants can really produce an exciting vehicle...ie. when the current GS was released i thought it was a really attractive vehicle . more of what we talked about is posted on a thread
in the Sclass forum.
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howdy
not really read all of this thread, but checked out the lexus forum. what a bunch of tossers. sorry but they seem really arrogant and up themselves.
cheers
ps. give this a sniff
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...hreadid=102945
not really read all of this thread, but checked out the lexus forum. what a bunch of tossers. sorry but they seem really arrogant and up themselves.
cheers
ps. give this a sniff
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...hreadid=102945
Last edited by omron; Nov 27, 2003 at 06:45 PM.
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I’ve just followed this thread and scanned the ones over at CL. The multitude & depth of web discussion forums on various car manufacturers is sort of novel to me. I originally joined this forum before I bought my MB to understand some owners’ experiences and aid me through my ownership. However, when reading these postings I have admittedly found myself getting rather caught up in the heat of the these debates (MB vs. Lexus). But then I just took a step back and realized to what a ridiculous degree we take these things; which boils down to pretty insignificant issues (i.e. who’s being meaner on who’s website—c’mon). We all have to laugh at ourselves (myself included).
So after that pious disclaimer, my human instincts direct me to me join in the debate!! The whole MB vs. Lexus thing; there is nothing like a Mercedes Benz and probably never will be. Yet Lexus’ brilliantly sterile & reliable transportation has its appeal. It all depends on what the buyer wants and where they are in their life. Luxurious practicality (and perhaps financial shrewdness) vs. passion for a true automobile.
S55inPA, I don’t know if you were really “out of line” but I’m not shocked at CL’s actions……just laugh.
So after that pious disclaimer, my human instincts direct me to me join in the debate!! The whole MB vs. Lexus thing; there is nothing like a Mercedes Benz and probably never will be. Yet Lexus’ brilliantly sterile & reliable transportation has its appeal. It all depends on what the buyer wants and where they are in their life. Luxurious practicality (and perhaps financial shrewdness) vs. passion for a true automobile.
S55inPA, I don’t know if you were really “out of line” but I’m not shocked at CL’s actions……just laugh.
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well as strange as this may seem....i just started getting email notifications to threads that i had posted to. maybe i'm not banned anymore?
maybe they missed me
maybe they missed me
Last edited by S55inPA; Dec 6, 2003 at 06:13 AM.
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I totally agree with you S55inPA! And I take my hat off to you for what you did over a Club Toyota, oh yeah I'm sorry, they call them a Nexus-----oh I'm sorry, Lexus.
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Lexus vehicles have excellent reliability, this is more than I can say for M-B vehicles.
Yes, at various times Lexus has somewhat tried to imitate M-B's design. However, there is generally a uniqueness to Lexus vehicles in that they all look different. I prefer this over the M-B approach of almost everyl line looking remarkably similar.
Value is a critical issue for many. This, along w/ reliability, is where Lexus "steals" potential M-B owners. Lexus vehicles generally offer a similar car in safety, interior materials, luxury, etc yet for thousands or sometimes several thousands less.
Essentially, Lexus vehicles are high-end Toyotas. They are better than Toyota badged vehicles, because they are higher-end cars. The GS, LS, & SC are much better than any Toyota-badged car.
Even the ES, the Camry's cousin, offers significant advantages over its Toyota cousin. For 1 thing, it received better crash test scores. Further, it should also be pointed out that the ES has vastly superior braking distances. Finally, there is also a noticeable difference in the quality & feel of the interior materials.
Yes, at various times Lexus has somewhat tried to imitate M-B's design. However, there is generally a uniqueness to Lexus vehicles in that they all look different. I prefer this over the M-B approach of almost everyl line looking remarkably similar.
Value is a critical issue for many. This, along w/ reliability, is where Lexus "steals" potential M-B owners. Lexus vehicles generally offer a similar car in safety, interior materials, luxury, etc yet for thousands or sometimes several thousands less.
Essentially, Lexus vehicles are high-end Toyotas. They are better than Toyota badged vehicles, because they are higher-end cars. The GS, LS, & SC are much better than any Toyota-badged car.
Even the ES, the Camry's cousin, offers significant advantages over its Toyota cousin. For 1 thing, it received better crash test scores. Further, it should also be pointed out that the ES has vastly superior braking distances. Finally, there is also a noticeable difference in the quality & feel of the interior materials.
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Originally posted by J P
Lexus vehicles have excellent reliability, this is more than I can say for M-B vehicles.
What an understatement...........all of the LS "new" technologies are all stolen from their competitors. Thats disgusting to steal 90% of your competitors ideas and put it in your FLAGSHIP sedan. LEXUS gets no points for orginality in design or technology.
You are entitled to that opinion, you must also hold that same critisicm over to BMW,AUDI,ACURA,BENTLEY,FERRARI,NISSAN and most other car makers since they all follow the same pattern. Its an unwritten rule of thumb that says all your cars are part of a family and they should show a sort of resemblance to each other and to their ancestors in some shape or form. In the business world, its called BRAND RECOGNITION. If lexus chooses not to abide by it, I wouldnt say its a good thing.
That is nothing new, lexus is just doing exactly what TOYOTA has been doing for years to the american car companies, stealing their ideas and hiring the japanse to improve on it. I dont find that honorable at all. Its like the guy that sits in the cube next to you who peaks at your ideas and then goes into the meeting and portrays them as his with a twist. Its sneaky and disgusting but it works....
AGREED
Lexus vehicles have excellent reliability, this is more than I can say for M-B vehicles.
Yes, at various times Lexus has somewhat tried to imitate M-B's design.
However, there is generally a uniqueness to Lexus vehicles in that they all look different. I prefer this over the M-B approach of almost everyl line looking remarkably similar.
Value is a critical issue for many. This, along w/ reliability, is where Lexus "steals" potential M-B owners. Lexus vehicles generally offer a similar car in safety, interior materials, luxury, etc yet for thousands or sometimes several thousands less.
Essentially, Lexus vehicles are high-end Toyotas.
Last edited by J Lucas; Dec 19, 2003 at 04:25 PM.
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I wasnt trying to offend anyone or use it as a racial slur, i was just trying to shorten the word. If you don't believe me then I dont know what else to tell you. Ill edit it for you...
