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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 04:05 AM
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What does numbers on the back of mercedes benz mean?

as i know the numbers stand for engine displacement x 100 ex 250 = 2.5l x 100
but why this formula doesn't work on the new Benz cars?
and another question that i searched for it for a days but i can't find an answer, why all w201 cars has 190 badge on it since is not 1.9l, w201cars has another badge for displacement, so if the car code-name w201 what is the meaning of 190?
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 09:08 AM
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Pretty good question.... gonna say some of it is marketing....

The 2008ish model AMG 63 series where/are a take off from the original 70's benzes that had a 6.3 liter V8. When actually these motors are 6.2 liters.... guess 63 sounded better to the marketing guys than 62 ?

Then in 2011 AMG 63 cars went to a bi-turbo 5.5 liter but are still called AMG 63..... guess marketing didn't think we could handle a new AMG with a smaller number ?

The latest AMG 63 is know a 4.0 liter bi-turbo that must have sent the Marketing people in a frenzy...
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 11:06 AM
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Yeah, it used to be, in a time of normally aspirated engines, that displacement was everything, and it made sense to use that to determine the model numbers for cars. But in modern times, with turbocharged, dual-turbocharged, supercharged and hybrid engines, and when chances are from one year to the next, the engine displacement will go down rather than up, those numbers make no sense. Hyundai's smallest engine in the U.S. is a 1.6 liter, which happens to be the exact same displacement as the 1,000 hp Formula 1 engines. So, MB is simply using higher and lower numbers to indicate and lower power engines. After all, most wouldn't want a newer, higher-powered model with a lower number than the previous one. ;-)

And it does get confusing: in 2014, an E350 was a 3.5 liter, 302hp V6. In 2020 an E350 is a 2 liter, 255hp I4, and an E450 is a 3 liter, 367hp V6. I think they at least should have avoided the confusion of repeating model numbers.
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 01:10 PM
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thank u guys for ur replies u have a good point u make it clear, but there is one more thing what is the story behind 190 in w201? do someone has any idea about it?
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Scroll to engines.... so many varying engines in this style lol


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W201
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Originally Posted by mrmotoguzzi00
Scroll to engines.... so many varying engines in this style lol


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W201
And /some/ of them would actually suit for a 190 badge!
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 02:33 PM
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They describe to other folks how much you spent at the dealer
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As I understand it, and I could be very wrong, the new model numbers tell you that the power train in the car has about the same horsepower as a normally aspirated engine of whatever size the number designates. In other words, my E400, although it is a TT V6, has about the same horsepower as a normally aspirated 4l engine of the past. The E63 has about the same horsepower as the normally aspirated 6.3l engine of the past, and so on. May not be MB's intent, but it seems to make sense.

As for the older series cars, the engine displacement was a hyphenated number after the model line designation. My 1988 W201 car (which occupied the spot in the product line now taken by the C-Class) was the standard 190E-2.3, meaning that it had the standard 2.3l I4 engine. There was also a 190E-2.6 which had a 2.6l I6 engine, as well as a specialty version that had a higher performance Cosworth I6. At the same time, the next model up the family tree was the 260/320 class. These cars were the old E-Class, but the 260 had a 2.6l I6 engine, while the 320 had a 3.2l I6 engine.

I guess this all tells me that we mere mortals are not supposed to be able to suss out all the models and nomenclature. . .
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