Power liftgate closing issue?
Took it to the dealership, and they replaced the entire trunk closing liftgate, but the issue was still there. They did more research and found a service bulletin from 2008 which states a wire pinching may be the cause.
Of course, this pinching wire is located in an awkward place and the the entire headliner needs to be dropped to re-route the wire.
Has anyone had to do this before? Or has anyone had to drop the headliner? My concern on dropping the headliner is not only damage and staining, but the possibility of having rattling and a sagging headliner.
Took it to the dealership, and they replaced the entire trunk closing liftgate, but the issue was still there. They did more research and found a service bulletin from 2008 which states a wire pinching may be the cause.
Of course, this pinching wire is located in an awkward place and the the entire headliner needs to be dropped to re-route the wire.
Has anyone had to do this before? Or has anyone had to drop the headliner? My concern on dropping the headliner is not only damage and staining, but the possibility of having rattling and a sagging headliner.
wanted to avoid that, but it looks like i won't be able to.
pateljb posted, and had the same issue i have at the moment.
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Already had the latching mechanism replaced but it still happens but only sometimes now.
It looks like keyless go does not see the key being there when closing or opening doors.
I have both sets of keys with me but still same result.
Option number too is that the doors close really hard hitting the back of the car.
At this point I am monitoring the situation.
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All that's left then is a carpet cleaning for the interior and she'll be good as new
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It's a $90 part so (even with a couple hours labor) it isn't the end of the world by any means. http://www.genuinemercedesparts.com/...Y4LWdhcw%3D%3D
I considered taking things apart myself but while this would be straightforward for an experienced Mercedes mechanic, it's definitely above my pay grade. I have no doubt I can get to the sensor...it's getting things back together that's questionable!!
The hatch closes on a rubber strip, and it knows if something (fingers for example) are being pinched, then it reopens again. Same as how your garage door works.
These systems use one of two ways of knowing. There is too much force needed to shut the hatch (so it must be obstructed by something), or there is a sensor on the door that touches something and it reopens.
One way I have seen it done is to have a rubber tube with two wires in it. The rubber tube runs around the bottom edge of the door. If the door hits something the tube collapses and wires touch. Then the door opens again.
I suspect the rubber weatherstrip may have a sensing tube inside it, or maybe it's part of the bottom edge of the door.
I'd start finding parts diagrams for that door and see if you can identify the part. It probably isn't too expensive ($100?) and you can swap it and see if it fixes the problem.
With the code you are getting, it strongly leans towards this sensor being damaged somehow and it's falsely triggering the "oops, something is pinched, open up the door again" system.
Your windows use a similar system. Stick a piece of wood in and close the window, it will go right back down again when the glass hits the wood.
Edit:I did some research and it appears it uses a sensor on the lifting mechanism, not a door-edge (rubber tube with wires as I described above) type of sensor.
Something notices that the door is hard to shut, and opens it again, since it thinks there is an obstruction.
There is a sensor someplace you need to find. It's probably called an obstruction sensor or something like that. It is part of the lifting mechanism (pump, lift struts, etc.)
They probably swapped the sensor over when they replaced your lifting mechanism and it is still bad.
The only other thing it can be is worn out lift struts which are harder to move, causing the system to trigger because it is hard to close the hatch. But if yours were replaced, it's the sensor then for sure.
Last edited by bha; Apr 27, 2017 at 02:49 PM.
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Here is his quote:
"I opened the tailgate and loosened the right obstruction sensor. This is the black plastic cover around the tail lamp that has a wire running behind it."
So I paid an arm and a leg for both batteries and get to install them tonight.
I'm wondering if the gas struts are stiffer than "normal". If so, they're placing more strain on the closing system than necessary. New gas struts are $200. Each. Sigh.
Last edited by edvaru; May 1, 2017 at 10:25 AM.
This is my first Mercedes with KeylessGo; does the system require the key to be in a certain place or the car's accessories turned on, for the auto-closing liftgate? Seems strange if true and irritating as hell. Our old GL450 didn't have Keyless Go but the liftgate closed when you pushed the button. Very simple and worked fine.
Downside - didn't change a damned thing.
So after $750, new batteries and new struts, the liftgate still opens 100% of the time, and only closes when the car has been running for at least 10min, or at random times when it feels like it. I tried putting a second battery on the jumper terminals. No joy.
So it's either wiring, or programming. I am determined to figure this damned thing out.
Downside - didn't change a damned thing.
So after $750, new batteries and new struts, the liftgate still opens 100% of the time, and only closes when the car has been running for at least 10min, or at random times when it feels like it. I tried putting a second battery on the jumper terminals. No joy.
So it's either wiring, or programming. I am determined to figure this damned thing out.
have you checked the handle to make sure it isn't dirty and getting stuck...it was the issue for me...took it apart cleaned it up problem solved
As a next step, I would get a DAS test done to see if your truck is reporting any codes (stuck handle, pressure sensor problems, etc.) before you start changing any further parts.
I think you are through the hard/expensive stuff now, so don't give up. It is likely just a switch/sensor/etc.
I love to learn what the final solution is to your predicament.
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