Strange suspension/drive noises that can't be diagnosed
#1
Strange suspension/drive noises that can't be diagnosed
Yes, yet another question on suspension. Apologies for those who have seen this before... I searched archives but didn't see anything specific to this. Okay, here's the story: I've been to three different indys. A Benz specialist, a foreign auto generalist, and a tire/suspension shop (only one to hear problem). The first two were not able to replicate, the third heard it, but wasn't sure what it is.
Problem one: Accelerating while turning right, especially on a freeway on-ramp circles going up. Rapid clunk-clunk-clunk from the right front (side being turned into). Stops when easing off the gas.
Problem two (related?): A clunk-clunk when I take foot off gas to coast or decelerate. Lighter and less noticeable. Goes away if steering turned off center to either side.
Problem three: Swirling/swooshing sound sound that is intermittent. More of a light swooosh or thub-thub.
All three are from right front side. All three are intermittent. The tire shop that heard it said maybe strut going out for the clunking, maybe a differential bearing for the swooshing. Both sound like possibilities. They couldn't fully diagnose and basically said just start replacing stuff and see.
I was going to start with the strut as it looks pretty straightforward for me to do. I'd need to take it in for diff bearing, or hub bearing, but don't want to do that if it's a shot in the dark. Suggestions? I'm in Inland SoCal, and don't mind travelling to a (reasonably) close specialist if there are any recommendations.
Also, where is the best place to buy an Arnott strut from? Direct from them, or ???
Thanks, all... hoping to have this fixed so the vehicle can keep chugging along. It's an '07, but with low miles in the 80k range. We want to keep this going for a long time, as we love it (especially now that gas is cheap). So far no bearing wear from the engine that we've been able to diagnose via Blackstone, so just need to keep up on this other stuff.
Problem one: Accelerating while turning right, especially on a freeway on-ramp circles going up. Rapid clunk-clunk-clunk from the right front (side being turned into). Stops when easing off the gas.
Problem two (related?): A clunk-clunk when I take foot off gas to coast or decelerate. Lighter and less noticeable. Goes away if steering turned off center to either side.
Problem three: Swirling/swooshing sound sound that is intermittent. More of a light swooosh or thub-thub.
All three are from right front side. All three are intermittent. The tire shop that heard it said maybe strut going out for the clunking, maybe a differential bearing for the swooshing. Both sound like possibilities. They couldn't fully diagnose and basically said just start replacing stuff and see.
I was going to start with the strut as it looks pretty straightforward for me to do. I'd need to take it in for diff bearing, or hub bearing, but don't want to do that if it's a shot in the dark. Suggestions? I'm in Inland SoCal, and don't mind travelling to a (reasonably) close specialist if there are any recommendations.
Also, where is the best place to buy an Arnott strut from? Direct from them, or ???
Thanks, all... hoping to have this fixed so the vehicle can keep chugging along. It's an '07, but with low miles in the 80k range. We want to keep this going for a long time, as we love it (especially now that gas is cheap). So far no bearing wear from the engine that we've been able to diagnose via Blackstone, so just need to keep up on this other stuff.
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How 'bout something going on with the brake dust shield? Maybe bent slightly were it rubs at certain times? The right side shield on my BMW does this on left hand turns - every so often I have to go in there and bend it back a bit. I know, sounds strange, but there is just enough flex in things that when putting pressure on the right side (turning left) it causes things to get a little closer together. Truth is, I'm only about 90% there to getting this completely figured out - but I know I'm in the right spot. The tipoff for you is if the noises/swooshing, when it does happen, seems to jive to tire speed rotation.
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Yup497 (06-02-2020)
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How 'bout something going on with the brake dust shield? Maybe bent slightly were it rubs at certain times? The right side shield on my BMW does this on left hand turns - every so often I have to go in there and bend it back a bit. I know, sounds strange, but there is just enough flex in things that when putting pressure on the right side (turning left) it causes things to get a little closer together. Truth is, I'm only about 90% there to getting this completely figured out - but I know I'm in the right spot. The tipoff for you is if the noises/swooshing, when it does happen, seems to jive to tire speed rotation.
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The other noise on deceleration is different. Same rhyhtmic, but less of a thump, and more of a light whump.
I should be talking to Click and Clack with all my noises...
#6
There are so many things on these trucks that make all kinds of sounds in the the steering and suspension.
Take a look at bushings on the steering rack as a cause from this other thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/gl-class-...ml#post7981890
or the links: https://mbworld.org/forums/gl-class-...ml#post7980329
Take a look at bushings on the steering rack as a cause from this other thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/gl-class-...ml#post7981890
or the links: https://mbworld.org/forums/gl-class-...ml#post7980329
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That said, this may not be the issue, of course - just thinking outloud.
#9
This sounds logical - I originally thought the same thing, which is what made finding the noise on my BMW so hard. But in my case, there was zero noise when spinning the tire - it needed weight on it to make the noise.
That said, this may not be the issue, of course - just thinking outloud.
That said, this may not be the issue, of course - just thinking outloud.
#10
Ah, gotcha. That's a good idea - if nothing else, it eliminates a variable and it's easy/free to do!
#11
Too hot to do anything these last couple days, so will have to dig into this weekend.
FYI, the loud clunk on turning was there prior to my previous tire rotation less than 5,000 miles ago. It's just gotten worse since then!
FYI, the loud clunk on turning was there prior to my previous tire rotation less than 5,000 miles ago. It's just gotten worse since then!
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Max Blast (06-05-2020)
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I raised the suspension so I could crawl under for a quick look, and noticed the compressor is riding on the wheel-well panel. That caused a good chunk of rattling. So I think that is one of the problems, an intermittent clunking noise whenever the compressor fires off. That might coincide with noises happening more often when cold/just starting off. That's when the compressor kicks in to top off the air shocks. I don't think it explains the clunking during hard turning while accelerating, but it's one of the sounds. Now to figure out how to isolate the compressor so it's not touching the trim piece!
#14
Yes, yet another question on suspension. Apologies for those who have seen this before... I searched archives but didn't see anything specific to this. Okay, here's the story: I've been to three different indys. A Benz specialist, a foreign auto generalist, and a tire/suspension shop (only one to hear problem). The first two were not able to replicate, the third heard it, but wasn't sure what it is.
Problem one: Accelerating while turning right, especially on a freeway on-ramp circles going up. Rapid clunk-clunk-clunk from the right front (side being turned into). Stops when easing off the gas.
Problem two (related?): A clunk-clunk when I take foot off gas to coast or decelerate. Lighter and less noticeable. Goes away if steering turned off center to either side.
Also, where is the best place to buy an Arnott strut from? Direct from them, or ???
Problem one: Accelerating while turning right, especially on a freeway on-ramp circles going up. Rapid clunk-clunk-clunk from the right front (side being turned into). Stops when easing off the gas.
Problem two (related?): A clunk-clunk when I take foot off gas to coast or decelerate. Lighter and less noticeable. Goes away if steering turned off center to either side.
Also, where is the best place to buy an Arnott strut from? Direct from them, or ???
The clunk when you take your foot off the gas is a classic motor mount or trans mount failure. The clunk is usually the engine rocking slightly in place.
On my 2008 GL, I replaced all 4 of my struts in my driveway without air tools. Incredibly easy if you are mechanically inclined. I purchased two struts from Amazon (due to a failure) and then two locally from an independent Import Parts shop. The local price was still about $45/ea higher, but I needed them ASAP.