Notices
GLC Class (X253) Produced 2016-2022

Tyre scrubbing on (full) lock

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Feb 2, 2017 | 06:48 PM
  #251  
wmc021's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 104
Likes: 27
From: Adelaide SA
AMG GLC 43, GLC Coupe 300 2020
Yes, I'm afraid we do.
Fitting winter tires in Oz...... I don't think so MB.

If i'm right in saying it is only effecting RHD cars MB needs to say "Why".
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2017 | 03:39 AM
  #252  
dejongj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 761
Likes: 90
From: right to be forgotten
right to be forgotten
Originally Posted by wmc021
Yes, I'm afraid we do.
Fitting winter tires in Oz...... I don't think so MB.

If i'm right in saying it is only effecting RHD cars MB needs to say "Why".
Welcome to the frustrating fight Logic doesn't seem to come into it.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2017 | 08:30 PM
  #253  
JustinS's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 39
Likes: 28
2019 C63 S Coupe
Originally Posted by wmc021
Hi
I have a 4 week old AMG GLC43 in Australia with 21' rims fitted with continental sport contact tires. Did not notice the issue at first, but yesterday noticed it for the first time only slightly.

What was more alarming was the tire wear which shows signs of graining already, the car has only done 900km.

The car is booked in next week for a windscreen polish as it also has the windscreen wiper judder problem that some owners are also experiencing. I shall be lodging the tire judder issue with MB at that time.

It's a great car but MB need to come up with a better solutions than fitting winter tires in Australia
Hey mate,
could you take a photo of the graining on your tyres please?
I don't notice this issue on my glc43 but would be interested in comparing the tyre wear against mine, mines completed 1400kms.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 01:04 AM
  #254  
wmc021's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 104
Likes: 27
From: Adelaide SA
AMG GLC 43, GLC Coupe 300 2020
Tyre scrubbing

JustinS

Hi JustinS,

I just done a 200km highway drive so the attached only show a sample of the wear. Seams this has cleaned the tire up slightly

After a few days of around town driving it looks worst.
Where are you from/based?

I still only just notice the judder & crabbing when on full lock, I must admit its not as bad as some of the on line videos I've seen of RHD GLC in colder weather conditions such as the UK.
I'm just concerned as OZ weather cools is the effect going to become worst.

The car is booked in next week Saturday to have the Windscreen polished due to the wiper judder issue and I've already told MB that we will be discussion the crabbing issue when I'm there.





Reply
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:54 AM
  #255  
Teckno's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,040
Likes: 161
From: Melbourne, Australia
2016 GLC 250d AMG pack, 2017 GLC Coupe 250d AMG pack , 2002 BMW 330Ci convertible, 2021 BMX X1 sD20i
Print these photos and leave them with MB so tech can see it.
Harder to flip you off with photos, they keep them on your file usually.
Good luck
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:57 AM
  #256  
tiger_x's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 168
Likes: 12
From: Western Australia
GLC43
More examples here: https://youtu.be/VTT0U8fciR0
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 09:16 PM
  #257  
vratenza's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 107
Likes: 15
From: Singapore
W203 C350; Lexus GS450h; GLC250 AMG Line
Anyone tried filming the front wheel arch area with a few strategically placed gopro to see what's going on in there while the scrubbing/juddering is occuring?

With all the tire worn areas documented so far, seem to be only the outer edge involved? Maybe can consider front section of wheel arch rubbing on the tire's outer edge during a full lock turn. Evidence that lots of highway straight road driving reduce the scrubbing effect.
If that is the case, then maybe the offset of the rims have to be looked at along with the tire profile.
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2017 | 02:52 AM
  #258  
dejongj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 761
Likes: 90
From: right to be forgotten
right to be forgotten
It is an interesting theory. I was only yesterday having a conversation with someone from the Netherlands who said exactly that. He asked me whether I tried wheel spacers, it helped him in the past on a Volvo to 'overcome' 'mask' the issue as Volvo like Mercedes didn't want to know about it.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 08:12 AM
  #259  
Philamg's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,333
Likes: 304
From: Dorset, UK
GLC 450
There has been an unbelievable post regarding this put on another forum this morning, your comments please:

"I've been told today, 6/2/17, by Lookers, the dealer I bought my GLC from, that there is an internal Mercedes notification that has been distributed stating that prospective customers are to be demonstrated the vehicle and asked to sign a disclaimer. This to me, at least is an admission of the problem. There is meant to be a 'public' notification on the 17/2/17. I am in the process of returning the vehicle on the basis that I was not told about it when I bought it and would have not gone ahead with the purchase had I been."
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 08:35 AM
  #260  
rexgold's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 177
Likes: 5
From: UK
GLC43AMG Polar White, 21" Alloys, Prem Plus Package, LED Intelligent Light, 360 Camera
I just spoke to MB Financial Services on the aspect of rejecting the car. They will fill out the case form for it and get their resolution team to investigate it and come up with a resolution. Lets see what happens. They said that they will acknowledge it in 2 days and have further 10 days to come up with their answer.

My argument on rejection is purely on the safety aspect. I can't be having to second guess if the car will go in the direction the steering is pointing or where the car is facing.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 10:46 AM
  #261  
vikeor's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 96
Likes: 17
From: Warsaw, Poland
GLC43 AMG
crap... I'm starting to worry about this when spring comes and I'll put the original 21" wheels back on :/
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 11:12 AM
  #262  
dejongj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 761
Likes: 90
From: right to be forgotten
right to be forgotten
Originally Posted by vikeor
crap... I'm starting to worry about this when spring comes and I'll put the original 21" wheels back on :/
As yours is left hand drive I think you maybe ok.

Unless your our summers are like the UK winters
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 11:14 AM
  #263  
vikeor's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 96
Likes: 17
From: Warsaw, Poland
GLC43 AMG
I've heard some weird noises when bringing the car home on a tight, slow right hand turn... I guess I'll have to wait and see.

Our summers are sometimes 35C+ :P
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 11:14 AM
  #264  
dejongj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 761
Likes: 90
From: right to be forgotten
right to be forgotten
Originally Posted by Philamg
There has been an unbelievable post regarding this put on another forum this morning, your comments please:

"I've been told today, 6/2/17, by Lookers, the dealer I bought my GLC from, that there is an internal Mercedes notification that has been distributed stating that prospective customers are to be demonstrated the vehicle and asked to sign a disclaimer. This to me, at least is an admission of the problem. There is meant to be a 'public' notification on the 17/2/17. I am in the process of returning the vehicle on the basis that I was not told about it when I bought it and would have not gone ahead with the purchase had I been."
ive seen the document now. It is quite clear that Mercedes are covering themselves with any new owners. Doesn't bode well for a fix, nor is it clear what happens to those owners who already have taken delivery of their vehicles.

A right mess. I would stay well clear of these vehicles in right hand drive.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 12:09 PM
  #265  
dejongj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 761
Likes: 90
From: right to be forgotten
right to be forgotten
Originally Posted by vikeor
I've heard some weird noises when bringing the car home on a tight, slow right hand turn... I guess I'll have to wait and see.

Our summers are sometimes 35C+ :P
Fingers crossed
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 04:22 PM
  #266  
Oliver12's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 43
Likes: 3
From: Edinburgh
GLC 250d AMG Premium
I've also raised the issue with my dealer in Edinburgh and they have confirmed that MB will be providing a response in due course and the dealership provided the undernoted statement from MB. I'm hoping it's not just a rehash of the issue being a 'comfort' issue or the recommendation to fit winter tyres but we'll need to wait until 17th February to find out more.

"For those customers who have already taken delivery of a car with this characteristic and have expressed their concern, we will provide a further update by 17 February 2017".
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2017 | 06:43 PM
  #267  
Philamg's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,333
Likes: 304
From: Dorset, UK
GLC 450
From what's been posted above it's take it or leave it.
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 01:15 AM
  #268  
Oliver12's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 43
Likes: 3
From: Edinburgh
GLC 250d AMG Premium
I all ready the car- since May 2016- MB should come up with a proper fix. If not reputations damage.....
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 02:45 PM
  #269  
Daniel BG's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 96
Likes: 18
From: Spain
MB GLC43 AMG
I own a LHD GLC 250D since April 2016.

Yesterday I was in a parking which floor is polished. I have Winter tyres on 19". My tyres were wet as it was raining. Exterior temperature was about 3ºC. On full streering-wheel lock and at very low speeds I experimented the described situation. Today I went back to the same parking, same temperature, dry tyres and was not able to reproduce the situation.

In April I should be receiving my new GLC43 AMG.
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 02:57 PM
  #270  
dejongj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 761
Likes: 90
From: right to be forgotten
right to be forgotten
Originally Posted by Daniel BG
I own a LHD GLC 250D since April 2016.

Yesterday I was in a parking which floor is polished. I have Winter tyres on 19". My tyres were wet as it was raining. Exterior temperature was about 3ºC. On full streering-wheel lock and at very low speeds I experimented the described situation. Today I went back to the same parking, same temperature, dry tyres and was not able to reproduce the situation.

In April I should be receiving my new GLC43 AMG.
Hi Daniel - thank you for your post. I think that is what I would class as expected behaviour. And exactly the kind of scenario that I've experienced occasionally before in full time 4wd vehicles.

Very unlike the constant experience that us RHD owners have where even at high temperatures and when dry this happens.

Really appreciate your contribution on it, we hear too little from LHD owners and I think it is useful
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 01:56 AM
  #271  
dejongj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 761
Likes: 90
From: right to be forgotten
right to be forgotten
Well here you go - just in case anyone is still interested in this vehicle. If you are looking to buy and are from the UK. The retailer will ask you to sign this form. The action group website obtained a copy from a concerned prospective customer.

https://www.mercedescrabbing.org/201...ipping-waiver/

I mean seriously, why would you still buy a car that does this?
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 03:36 AM
  #272  
Philamg's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,333
Likes: 304
From: Dorset, UK
GLC 450
They won't be getting my signature Dejongj, I spoke to salesman on Monday and he wasn't aware of the disclaimer but as he wasn't in yesterday will be finding out and phoning me today, will be interested to see what he says.
Not sure about others but I am not saying it is a safety issue but an issue that shouldn't be built into any car, my discovery sport doesn't have it and none of my previous 4 wheel drive cars have.
I am due to collect car on March 1st, will be interested to see what happens.
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 03:44 AM
  #273  
dejongj's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 761
Likes: 90
From: right to be forgotten
right to be forgotten
I've just seen a copy of the internal memo send to the dealers Another breaking news story later today...
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 06:53 AM
  #274  
URBassman's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 51
Likes: 1
From: Chipping Norton
GLC
Quite disgusting behaviour. Shame on you MB
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 10:45 AM
  #275  
Philamg's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,333
Likes: 304
From: Dorset, UK
GLC 450
Dealer has just phoned me to say that their motor group will NOT be asking customers to sign the disclaimer, not sure if it is me they are saying that to or everyone, I had already told them I won't be signing.
My car has arrived at dealers and salesman has taken it around the site, forward and backwards on full lock and he says it doesn't have the issue. He said I could go over and drive the car but I declined, I trust him and he knows if it has the problem he will be getting it back.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:31 AM.