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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 10:54 AM
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In the market for a 2020 GLC 63, got a few questions.

Hello everyone, new to the site and I'm in the market for my first AMG, let alone MB. I'm pretty much set on the GLC 63 as it checks all my boxes for needs/wants. A few questions I have concern mechanical differences between the 63 and 63 S. From my limited research, do they share the same engine just detuned? What would it take to make it an "S"? I'm not a huge fan of the Coupe and being in the States we don't get the SUV version of the S from my understanding. I haven't seen the vehicle up close yet, I'm waiting until the wife is fully on board to pull the trigger. Only price question, is asking for MSRP or under out of the question? Thanks for any help and have a wonderful day.
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yes same motor just a detune... easy enough to get that power with a tune... renntech etc....
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:16 AM
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yes same motor just a detune... easy enough to get that power with a tune... renntech etc....
I believe you also lose the "Race Mode" correct? It is really aggressive for the street and intended for track only but I do use it on occasion. It lets you actually drive the car vs safety systems limiting you driving the car.
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:43 AM
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Thanks for the replies so far. I was originally looking at the Jaguar F-Pace SVR, but for the same price or under I can get similar performance and the MB interior blows it out of the water....only disappointment is the fake quad exhaust. As for options, i'm really not seeing the need for the $400 Drive Unit. I live in Virginia, so the heated seats are must and the safety packages. I just wonder if I want to order one or take one already on the lot....
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonpie64
Thanks for the replies so far. I was originally looking at the Jaguar F-Pace SVR, but for the same price or under I can get similar performance and the MB interior blows it out of the water....only disappointment is the fake quad exhaust. As for options, i'm really not seeing the need for the $400 Drive Unit. I live in Virginia, so the heated seats are must and the safety packages. I just wonder if I want to order one or take one already on the lot....
No matter what, make sure you get the AMG performance exhaust. AMG uses the disconnected tail pipes but once you hear the performance exhaust, you won't care if it has two cans of green beans as tail pipes.

Just in case you haven't seen a S Coupe lowered I have attached a picture of mine. It's a whole different look once at proper height.

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonpie64
Only price question, is asking for MSRP or under out of the question? Thanks for any help and have a wonderful day.
I’m in Maryland so the market should be about the same. You shouldn’t have any problem getting it for under MSRP.
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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From a price question perspective, you should be able to get anywhere between 5-10% off MSRP for a 2020 and 10%+ off a 2019 that are still on the lot. The hardest part about the 2020's will be finding an allocation if you are looking to build one versus something on the lot. Most of the 2020's that are on the lot are market intro cars with the same set of colors/features that highlight the new features of the 2020 (most are the new graphite grey, with grey/yellow interior)

My feedback would be to only take something on the lot if it has all of the things that you want and need. The 2020's have many features standard (like the performance exhaust) that were options on the 2019.

2020 has newer tech (digital instrument cluster and standard carplay) vs. 2019. Otherwise they are essentially the same.

I chose to get the AMG drive unit, it is definitely a nice to have, but spending an extra $400 on a $90K car doesn't seem like a big deal. I also got the AMG seats which it seems like most people don't get. Hopefully mine arrives in a couple weeks. It's in the middle of the Atlantic at the moment.
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kennys2003
From a price question perspective, you should be able to get anywhere between 5-10% off MSRP for a 2020 and 10%+ off a 2019 that are still on the lot. The hardest part about the 2020's will be finding an allocation if you are looking to build one versus something on the lot. Most of the 2020's that are on the lot are market intro cars with the same set of colors/features that highlight the new features of the 2020 (most are the new graphite grey, with grey/yellow interior)

My feedback would be to only take something on the lot if it has all of the things that you want and need. The 2020's have many features standard (like the performance exhaust) that were options on the 2019.

2020 has newer tech (digital instrument cluster and standard carplay) vs. 2019. Otherwise they are essentially the same.

I chose to get the AMG drive unit, it is definitely a nice to have, but spending an extra $400 on a $90K car doesn't seem like a big deal. I also got the AMG seats which it seems like most people don't get. Hopefully mine arrives in a couple weeks. It's in the middle of the Atlantic at the moment.
Thanks for the advice, I’ll definitely take it into consideration. This will be my first luxury vehicle, so I just don’t want to get accessories that are pointless. Now I need to settle on the color...I love that blacked out look and I’m also on the fence with the matte gray...
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 07:51 PM
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonpie64
Thanks for the replies so far. I was originally looking at the Jaguar F-Pace SVR, but for the same price or under I can get similar performance and the MB interior blows it out of the water....only disappointment is the fake quad exhaust. As for options, i'm really not seeing the need for the $400 Drive Unit. I live in Virginia, so the heated seats are must and the safety packages. I just wonder if I want to order one or take one already on the lot....
I am also cross shopping between GLC and F Pace. Note that Jag will redesign for 2021 model year with updated interior and perhaps BMW engine? Jag has presence but I think reliability would be better with the GLC and tech is much better for 2020 model year,
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 08:17 AM
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Color is always a tough choice. I chose Silver since it will be a daily driver and with winters in Michigan, keeping a black car clean would be impossible. I would have went Matte Selenite for the same reason, but the upkeep on a matte paint car is way different than what I'm used to, and since its a daily, I compromised there.

Both the Jag and the Alfa are both legit options, but both seem to have many more service problems compared to the GLCs.
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Originally Posted by sbkim
I am also cross shopping between GLC and F Pace. Note that Jag will redesign for 2021 model year with updated interior and perhaps BMW engine? Jag has presence but I think reliability would be better with the GLC and tech is much better for 2020 model year,
The tech refresh the GLC got and it's overall interior blew away the F-Pace. I test drove the sky blue SVR recently and it's definitely a head turner and that exhaust note is to die for. I was just let down by the infotainment compared to the 2020 GLC. Our 2014 Ford Fusion is getting close to 100k, so i'm not sure we want to wait another year for something that may not still live up to MBs.

Originally Posted by kennys2003
Color is always a tough choice. I chose Silver since it will be a daily driver and with winters in Michigan, keeping a black car clean would be impossible. I would have went Matte Selenite for the same reason, but the upkeep on a matte paint car is way different than what I'm used to, and since its a daily, I compromised there.

Both the Jag and the Alfa are both legit options, but both seem to have many more service problems compared to the GLCs.
I think the color will be a game time decision. This is another reason I'm leaning towards AMGs, I've head the horror stories about their quality. I am curious about the Alfa Q4 Nring edition....still can't really touch MB quality.
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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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Just an update, went to a local dealership last week to check out or put an order in for the 63 SUV. Talked for a little bit with one of the sales people, test drove the 43 (cuz they didn't have a 63 in stock), spec'd out my order and it came to just over $85k. Now I've never special ordered a car, so I'm not sure of the exact process (when to haggle, etc), so the guy was ready to take my deposit and i asked what kind of discount could i get. He asked if I was a USAA member (which I am) and he could give me $1500 off. I wasn't cool with that, so he asked me what I was looking for and I said $10k (of course I didn't necessarily expect that much, but to negotiate). He went to speak to the manager, came back 10mins later and said what had me steaming pissed!

He explained to me that over his career at this dealership, "I've sold over 1400 vehicles and he gets people in here that order G wagons for $130k+, so with that said we don't have to sell to you, but the best we can do is $3500 off." If i hadn't been in the worst part of a cold/flu, I would've raised a **** storm, because i have no idea what any of those have to do with this, but i just said "well in that case, I don't have to buy from you either." I got up and left, he tried to give me a card, but i ignored it. Did i overreact or was he out of line? I've never owned a luxury vehicle before, so I don't know if i need to look/act fancy for them to take me seriously. I figured money talked and seeing everyone else getting around 8% off, I would've been happy with that. I'm just not willing to pay more than i need to for a car that i want and don't need. I've still got some other dealerships to talk to, so it is what it is.
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I'm in Northern Virginia, so there's like 3 more fairly close by.
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Good to hear, these guys don't deserve your business. I can assure you they are not all like that and that attitude can happen at almost any brand
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Have you considered a used 2019 GLC63 ? I am getting one this Thursday with 9K miles on it, build in 2019 and for 66.9K plus tax. MSRP is 91K for this one so it comes pretty loaded. I do have to fly to get it and drive 1200 miles back but nothing in my area used will match in this price range.
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I'm in MD and just bought used 63 and got a fantastic deal. A local MB dealer will find you a car, have it trucked in and CPO it. I was really picky and they found what I wanted at a great price. Let the original owner take the $25-30k depreciation hit.
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Originally Posted by Moonpie64
Just an update, went to a local dealership last week to check out or put an order in for the 63 SUV. Talked for a little bit with one of the sales people, test drove the 43 (cuz they didn't have a 63 in stock), spec'd out my order and it came to just over $85k. Now I've never special ordered a car, so I'm not sure of the exact process (when to haggle, etc), so the guy was ready to take my deposit and i asked what kind of discount could i get. He asked if I was a USAA member (which I am) and he could give me $1500 off. I wasn't cool with that, so he asked me what I was looking for and I said $10k (of course I didn't necessarily expect that much, but to negotiate). He went to speak to the manager, came back 10mins later and said what had me steaming pissed!

He explained to me that over his career at this dealership, "I've sold over 1400 vehicles and he gets people in here that order G wagons for $130k+, so with that said we don't have to sell to you, but the best we can do is $3500 off." If i hadn't been in the worst part of a cold/flu, I would've raised a **** storm, because i have no idea what any of those have to do with this, but i just said "well in that case, I don't have to buy from you either." I got up and left, he tried to give me a card, but i ignored it. Did i overreact or was he out of line? I've never owned a luxury vehicle before, so I don't know if i need to look/act fancy for them to take me seriously. I figured money talked and seeing everyone else getting around 8% off, I would've been happy with that. I'm just not willing to pay more than i need to for a car that i want and don't need. I've still got some other dealerships to talk to, so it is what it is.
May be he thought you weren’t serious by asking for such a big discount, but I don’t condone his behavior. I do find that it helps if you can go into negotiations armed with some information and make sure that he knows you are an informed customer. For example, you can tell him that people on this forum have reported 5-10% off. Or that another dealer has offered you x% off on a similarly spec’d car but they don’t have an allocation or the build date is further out. Or that KBB price is XYZ.

I had a similar experience with an initial low ball offer over the phone, but when I told him what another dealer offered (problem was that they don’t have an allocation until sometime in 2020), he got serious real quick. Once we were in the ball park, I went into the dealership to meet him in person. A little more negotiation, and I even offered to show him the email from the other dealer confirming the deal.

Larger dealers (by sales volume) may have more wiggle room because they get better prices or kickbacks from MB USA.
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I shopped the Balt, DC, and NOVA dealers for the best price. I ended up purchasing from MB of Catonsville south of Baltimore for 7% off MSRP on a new model year. Better than European delivery. That beat the USAA price by quite a lot. Garuin Taurin was my sales rep - great to work with. Euro was 2nd. Seems MD dealers negotiate more aggressively than those in VA.
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And the AMG S is the same block but not the same engine. The S has the pressurized oil system, no traditional oil pan. Lower center of gravity. Bet you will not notice any difference in everyday driving.
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Originally Posted by miamiml63amg
Have you considered a used 2019 GLC63 ? I am getting one this Thursday with 9K miles on it, build in 2019 and for 66.9K plus tax. MSRP is 91K for this one so it comes pretty loaded. I do have to fly to get it and drive 1200 miles back but nothing in my area used will match in this price range.
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I'm in MD and just bought used 63 and got a fantastic deal. A local MB dealer will find you a car, have it trucked in and CPO it. I was really picky and they found what I wanted at a great price. Let the original owner take the $25-30k depreciation hit.
Thanks for the heads up, I just really don’t like the 2019 technology wise. The wife never remembers directions and needs about the most intuitive GPS know to man, so the augmented GPS on the 2020 is perfect for her when she drives. I’ll keep looking and I’m sure a deal will come along.
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Great deal on our in-stock 2020 GLC if you can do by year end LINK
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I shopped the Balt, DC, and NOVA dealers for the best price. I ended up purchasing from MB of Catonsville south of Baltimore for 7% off MSRP on a new model year. Better than European delivery. That beat the USAA price by quite a lot. Garuin Taurin was my sales rep - great to work with. Euro was 2nd. Seems MD dealers negotiate more aggressively than those in VA.
Well I'm at a crossroad because I've got two dealerships (one in MD and one in NOVA) that can match discounts on a 63 from other lots, but the VA dealer is 1% more off for a special order. The VA dealer is closer to home and the MD dealer is closer to my work.... I don't want to push my luck, but the wife may be the deciding factor, depending if she wants to wait for a special order or ship one in from another lot. Can I ask dealerships to offer anything special on top? Like service or warranty extras, etc or even add an additional discount for USAA/Military Veteran? I'm amazed they even came this far, considering the first dealership experience...I figured it would be similar or just as bad. Again, thanks for everyone's help and I'll keep everyone up to date when I either order or get an already built one.

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