Production delays/ timeline
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2017 Mercedes S550 4Matic, 2020 Mercedes GLE 450 4Matic
IMO, you are way over reacting. I just got my car back after 12 days in the shop, but I'm not ready to ditch it. All depends on your expectations I guess - Lexus on average is more dependable that Mercedes. If that's what's important for you, that' should have been your purchase criteria. I've owned every MB SUV generation starting with a '98 ML 350. Have they had issues, yes. W163 transfer case out of warranty, W164 balance shaft bearings, W166 Airmatic & transfer case leak. All issues were well handled, and fully covered under warranty or partly covered out of warranty. Only been stranded once in the '98 when the key quit communicating with the vehicle.
Cars are so complex these days that you are going to experience some issues. And judging from this board we are about the only ones that have had anything other than piddling issues. I'm sorry it happened to you (and me), but you deal with it an get on. Whining will not help and no, it's not the end of the Mercedes world.
Cars are so complex these days that you are going to experience some issues. And judging from this board we are about the only ones that have had anything other than piddling issues. I'm sorry it happened to you (and me), but you deal with it an get on. Whining will not help and no, it's not the end of the Mercedes world.
Best wishes, hope your fix is done, but I would remain skeptical since it took quite a while for them to diagnose mine after they initially claimed I had the same exact excessive paint on the connectors problem that they claim yours had.
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Meanwhile somewhere north of the border, an absolutely beautiful silver AMG appointed 2020 GLE 350 rolls onto a suburban interlock driveway leaving its once fabulous but now spent 2016 sibling in the garage.
Spotless blue sky - 29c and lush green all around - it's going to be a great day!
Not a lingering thought about its MIA 2020 GLE 450 sibling, a forgotten mythical beast which was to appear in March but alas... perfect driving weather for a Canada day road trip!
The family is finally ready to go! The engine leaps to life, they're at the end of the driveway ...and the yellow engine check light comes on.
To be continued...
Spotless blue sky - 29c and lush green all around - it's going to be a great day!
Not a lingering thought about its MIA 2020 GLE 450 sibling, a forgotten mythical beast which was to appear in March but alas... perfect driving weather for a Canada day road trip!
The family is finally ready to go! The engine leaps to life, they're at the end of the driveway ...and the yellow engine check light comes on.
To be continued...
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Mercedes/GLE dependability
Mercedes used to enjoy the best dependability and quality of all automotive brands. Now they are average at best in dependability. Mercedes are at the top in terms of most expensive automotive brands. Should not a historic Mercedes buyer like you and me, expect the highest in dependability and quality given the fact that we are paying for one of the most expensive automotive nameplates, one which established its reputation and prestige based on tops in the class dependability and quality? I think so, but you seem to be complacent to accept Mercedes' many defects because modern cars are complex. Just different points of view, and I respect yours, though it differs from mine.
Best wishes, hope your fix is done, but I would remain skeptical since it took quite a while for them to diagnose mine after they initially claimed I had the same exact excessive paint on the connectors problem that they claim yours had.
Best wishes, hope your fix is done, but I would remain skeptical since it took quite a while for them to diagnose mine after they initially claimed I had the same exact excessive paint on the connectors problem that they claim yours had.
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#629
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Went to see our SA today. Will update as I get more info.
We ordered our GLE 450 on 12/13/18. Production Start date was 03/25/2019.
No VPC on the list -- most updates are "Accessory Update" (and there are many).
Our VIN ends in 36XXX.
Estimated production date is still 04/14/2019.
We're seeing VINs ending in 76XXX as we look at what else is out there in the US.
Production starts were 06/20 and are VPC READY.
We ordered our GLE 450 on 12/13/18. Production Start date was 03/25/2019.
No VPC on the list -- most updates are "Accessory Update" (and there are many).
Our VIN ends in 36XXX.
Estimated production date is still 04/14/2019.
We're seeing VINs ending in 76XXX as we look at what else is out there in the US.
Production starts were 06/20 and are VPC READY.
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Well, someone in my very small neighborhood just rode through with their new white 2020 gle 350. It seems there are lots of them to be had, but I'm hoping this latest order brings our 450's here by August (as expected).
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My little yellow check engine light came on after I filled up a number of days ago. No aberrant behavior noted, and my radar was up (yes, I checked gas cap). Restarts did not change things, and no messages in the service menu. After two days, light went away. So, I roll on with a mental (actually written) note to myself to mention it to the SA next time I am at the dealership. Happens on my Chevy Avalanche every now and again too, although SA there can never find a code that indicated faults (and I maintain my vehicles with an open checkbook, so if there is something, they know I'll pay them to fix it). My wife's rover has little electronic gremlins that poke their heads out and then disappear every now and again, and yes, even her former LS 460 had bugaboos. It even left her stranded, and turns out that (oddly enough) a bad ground on the fuel pump did her in. Point is, every modern car has some gremlins show up, but actually getting left on the side of the road is few and far between nowadays (apologies to Greg), unlike my old corvette that needs to have its Rochester tweaked every time I drive it lest it decide not to start at one of its frequent trips to the fuel station. We all know the conventional wisdom that, whether truly accurate or not, the first year or two of a major redesign will have growing pains of one sort or the other, so some tolerance and/or acceptance is advised so one doesn't beat themselves mentally to a pulp over their hard earned dollars spent. Expecting perfection out of anything is a sure avenue to disappointment. However, everyone's tolerance level and expectations are different and I've just personally decided to twist the light bulb with a gentle grip on the smaller GLE issues, after all the wait.
Meanwhile, somewhere, some butt-ugly dude sneaks out the back door of his office and climbs inside a kind of generic-looking, but clean, 2020 GLE450 with black plastic fender lips he got in trade for a better stereo. He pulls the door gently to the catch, and let's the soft close doors do the rest. With the over-sized key still clumsily bulging in his front pocket, he pushes the start button and then immediately the auto start/stop button to the right, because no matter how much the 48-volt system helps, he still hates auto start/stop. Then the homely dude looks at the dash for any warning lights or notification that some sensor is temporarily disabled and, finding none this time, is just glad he's not heading to the gas station in his old corvette wondering whether it will decide to restart this time.
Meanwhile, somewhere, some butt-ugly dude sneaks out the back door of his office and climbs inside a kind of generic-looking, but clean, 2020 GLE450 with black plastic fender lips he got in trade for a better stereo. He pulls the door gently to the catch, and let's the soft close doors do the rest. With the over-sized key still clumsily bulging in his front pocket, he pushes the start button and then immediately the auto start/stop button to the right, because no matter how much the 48-volt system helps, he still hates auto start/stop. Then the homely dude looks at the dash for any warning lights or notification that some sensor is temporarily disabled and, finding none this time, is just glad he's not heading to the gas station in his old corvette wondering whether it will decide to restart this time.
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Went to see our SA today. Will update as I get more info.
We ordered our GLE 450 on 12/13/18. Production Start date was 03/25/2019.
No VPC on the list -- most updates are "Accessory Update" (and there are many).
Our VIN ends in 36XXX.
Estimated production date is still 04/14/2019.
We're seeing VINs ending in 76XXX as we look at what else is out there in the US.
Production starts were 06/20 and are VPC READY.
We ordered our GLE 450 on 12/13/18. Production Start date was 03/25/2019.
No VPC on the list -- most updates are "Accessory Update" (and there are many).
Our VIN ends in 36XXX.
Estimated production date is still 04/14/2019.
We're seeing VINs ending in 76XXX as we look at what else is out there in the US.
Production starts were 06/20 and are VPC READY.
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Guys don’t feel bad my VIN 20XXX order 2018/DEC/07 they don’t even know where is the car. It’s a set of numbers to MB nothing special, they don’t care anymore trust me.
#636
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We're considering this option, after talking to Customer Assistance some time today.
Why would we buy a car that was built months ago sitting in a field when I can just re-order and have it truly brand new?
BUT, they've got to sell these vehicles sometime, so someone's going to get them.
If I just ordered the same options, why wouldn't they just check inventory and say "we have that somewhere in a field -- we'll just make them wait"?
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Reorder?
Why would we buy a car that was built months ago sitting in a field when I can just re-order and have it truly brand new?
BUT, they've got to sell these vehicles sometime, so someone's going to get them.
If I just ordered the same options, why wouldn't they just check inventory and say "we have that somewhere in a field -- we'll just make them wait"?
BUT, they've got to sell these vehicles sometime, so someone's going to get them.
If I just ordered the same options, why wouldn't they just check inventory and say "we have that somewhere in a field -- we'll just make them wait"?
#639
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I have a production date in August, what's it mean
My order from several months back now has a production date of August 9, is that when it's due to be completed?
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Waiting...
After driving two BMW X5s and two Porsche Cayennes (diesel and e-hybrid), I decided to save some bucks and order a GLE 450. (My first Mercedes!) I placed the order on 5/4/19 and was told that the vehicle would be delivered in 6 to 8 weeks tops. My lease on my Porsche ran out this week, so I called the dealer only to find that the car is now not expected until September. I have extended the old lease but that only goes for two months at most.
The Mercedes dealer never mentioned any delays at first. Now he says, "Well its a new model and the allocations began in June and blah blah blah." I now found this thread and I am not a happy customer. It could be back to Porsche or BMW for me!
Thanks to you all for the great info, though.
The Mercedes dealer never mentioned any delays at first. Now he says, "Well its a new model and the allocations began in June and blah blah blah." I now found this thread and I am not a happy customer. It could be back to Porsche or BMW for me!
Thanks to you all for the great info, though.
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After driving two BMW X5s and two Porsche Cayennes (diesel and e-hybrid), I decided to save some bucks and order a GLE 450. (My first Mercedes!) I placed the order on 5/4/19 and was told that the vehicle would be delivered in 6 to 8 weeks tops. My lease on my Porsche ran out this week, so I called the dealer only to find that the car is now not expected until September. I have extended the old lease but that only goes for two months at most.
The Mercedes dealer never mentioned any delays at first. Now he says, "Well its a new model and the allocations began in June and blah blah blah." I now found this thread and I am not a happy customer. It could be back to Porsche or BMW for me!
Thanks to you all for the great info, though.
The Mercedes dealer never mentioned any delays at first. Now he says, "Well its a new model and the allocations began in June and blah blah blah." I now found this thread and I am not a happy customer. It could be back to Porsche or BMW for me!
Thanks to you all for the great info, though.
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There was a Post earlier about "Check Engine Light" - please understand that 2020 GLE w/MBUX has the capability for Remote Diagnosis that can be run by your Dealer's Service Adviser or Service Technician... it will also give your Servicing Dealer additional saved info and your GLE will respond to select added diagnosis routines if asked by the Dealer....actually pretty cool tech....
Ultimately - if your get a CEL - your listed Service Dealer will get a alert for your CEL at the same time - but the system is not yet completed for that yet.
Ultimately - if your get a CEL - your listed Service Dealer will get a alert for your CEL at the same time - but the system is not yet completed for that yet.
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There was a Post earlier about "Check Engine Light" - please understand that 2020 GLE w/MBUX has the capability for Remote Diagnosis that can be run by your Dealer's Service Adviser or Service Technician... it will also give your Servicing Dealer additional saved info and your GLE will respond to select added diagnosis routines if asked by the Dealer....actually pretty cool tech....
Ultimately - if your get a CEL - your listed Service Dealer will get a alert for your CEL at the same time - but the system is not yet completed for that yet.
Ultimately - if your get a CEL - your listed Service Dealer will get a alert for your CEL at the same time - but the system is not yet completed for that yet.
#649
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No... your dealer soes not get CEL alert yet.. but if you have a CEL and then call the dealer - they can log in and do remote diagnostic and when logged in then they can do reset.."assuming" Canada has bellied up for the system
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