Airmatic on the GLE
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Airmatic on the GLE
I test drove an X5 and a GLE350 today and it was interesting. The Benz had a softer suspension and more body roll but better steering. I was expecting more from the X5 as I have an X4 as well, but it is heavy and somewhat clumsy. I also own a 2017 LR Discovery and thought there would be more of a difference.
I like the Benz in every area but body role and control. Does anyone have experiences their can share?
I like the Benz in every area but body role and control. Does anyone have experiences their can share?
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2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
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I test drove an X5 and a GLE350 today and it was interesting. The Benz had a softer suspension and more body roll but better steering. I was expecting more from the X5 as I have an X4 as well, but it is heavy and somewhat clumsy. I also own a 2017 LR Discovery and thought there would be more of a difference.
I like the Benz in every area but body role and control. Does anyone have experiences their can share?
I like the Benz in every area but body role and control. Does anyone have experiences their can share?
Last edited by GregW / Oregon; 01-24-2021 at 09:52 AM.
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I test drove an X5 and a GLE350 today and it was interesting. The Benz had a softer suspension and more body roll but better steering. I was expecting more from the X5 as I have an X4 as well, but it is heavy and somewhat clumsy. I also own a 2017 LR Discovery and thought there would be more of a difference.
I like the Benz in every area but body role and control. Does anyone have experiences their can share?
I like the Benz in every area but body role and control. Does anyone have experiences their can share?
The GLE 53 (optional) & 63S have suspensions with more options and sway bars that are adjusted with the 48 volt system to keep the car flat in corners.
If you want an in between recommendation, go for the GLE 450. The EQ Boost & 6 cylinder make for a great package with very close to the same gas mileage.
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'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
I agree that the standard suspension feels somewhat soft, but in my experience it is still grippier than the BMW or Audi. Some of the best handling cars I have driven in the past have leaned a lot - "flat" is not necessary for handling prowess.
However, I think that the Air suspension on Comfort can be more "tippy" than passengers like on some roadways. I actually prefer the steel suspension over the base Airmatic, and my wife agrees. It's a HUGE step up from the predecessor W166 ML/GLE.
I also agree with @Ron.s and @GregW / Oregon that the E-ABC and Active Ride Control REALLY put the GLE head and shoulders above competitors, including the Cayenne with it's base suspension. I hope availability improves.
However, I think that the Air suspension on Comfort can be more "tippy" than passengers like on some roadways. I actually prefer the steel suspension over the base Airmatic, and my wife agrees. It's a HUGE step up from the predecessor W166 ML/GLE.
I also agree with @Ron.s and @GregW / Oregon that the E-ABC and Active Ride Control REALLY put the GLE head and shoulders above competitors, including the Cayenne with it's base suspension. I hope availability improves.
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@nextmilenium - I have a 2020 GLE 450 with the standard suspension (intentional as i prefer the conventional shocks/springs set up and potential tuning options in the future) and will say it is a fairly soft set up out of the box but this is what I expected and wanted. I was looking for a fairly comfortable/soft car with minimal NVH and this car fit the bill. However, at higher speeds when I hit a long dip in the road (rarely) I noticed the front bobbing slightly and think the rebound/compression could have been tuned better up front. I've learned to live with it and for 95% of my style of driving, I like the way the suspension is tuned. Should also not dismiss the fact that these cars are very heavy and will feel that weight transfer. E-dampers probably do a 100x better job managing the weight and body roll.
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I test drove an X5 and a GLE350 today and it was interesting. The Benz had a softer suspension and more body roll but better steering. I was expecting more from the X5 as I have an X4 as well, but it is heavy and somewhat clumsy. I also own a 2017 LR Discovery and thought there would be more of a difference.
I like the Benz in every area but body role and control. Does anyone have experiences their can share?
I like the Benz in every area but body role and control. Does anyone have experiences their can share?
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@nextmilenium - I have a 2020 GLE 450 with the standard suspension (intentional as i prefer the conventional shocks/springs set up and potential tuning options in the future) and will say it is a fairly soft set up out of the box but this is what I expected and wanted. I was looking for a fairly comfortable/soft car with minimal NVH and this car fit the bill. However, at higher speeds when I hit a long dip in the road (rarely) I noticed the front bobbing slightly and think the rebound/compression could have been tuned better up front. I've learned to live with it and for 95% of my style of driving, I like the way the suspension is tuned. Should also not dismiss the fact that these cars are very heavy and will feel that weight transfer. E-dampers probably do a 100x better job managing the weight and body roll.
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2021 AMG GLC63S Coupe, 2020 GLE 450
@nextmilenium - I have a 2020 GLE 450 with the standard suspension (intentional as i prefer the conventional shocks/springs set up and potential tuning options in the future) and will say it is a fairly soft set up out of the box but this is what I expected and wanted. I was looking for a fairly comfortable/soft car with minimal NVH and this car fit the bill. However, at higher speeds when I hit a long dip in the road (rarely) I noticed the front bobbing slightly and think the rebound/compression could have been tuned better up front. I've learned to live with it and for 95% of my style of driving, I like the way the suspension is tuned. Should also not dismiss the fact that these cars are very heavy and will feel that weight transfer. E-dampers probably do a 100x better job managing the weight and body roll.
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