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Old Aug 20, 2024 | 05:14 PM
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350- How often to replace rotors and pads

My dealer is saying repeatedly that all GLE 350 owners should expect to replace rotors and pad every 20k miles. I'm super frustrated b/c I don't see any MB documentation that supports this. I contacted MB USA and they punted, refusing to say whether or not that's a reasonable expectation, and telling me to switch dealers if I didn't like their assertion. Has anyone else been told this and/or experienced it? Seems like a huge regular cost above and beyond what has been presented and what should be expected.
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Old Aug 20, 2024 | 05:21 PM
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Don't worry about it. It depends on your driving style. Front and rear brakes have wear sensors that will tell you when the pads are thin and needing replacement soon.

Replacement pads are inexpensive and any shop or DIY can replace them easily.

Typically rotors can go thru more than 1-2 sets of brake pads.

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Old Aug 20, 2024 | 09:59 PM
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I had 36,000 on my 2021 GLE350 and hadn't replaced pads or rotors on it yet when I traded it. I don't think you should expect normal use to result in pads and rotor replacement every 20,000 miles.
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Old Aug 21, 2024 | 08:39 AM
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Your dealer is just looking to scare you into spending more money. Brakes and rotors do not wear out that quickly.
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Old Aug 21, 2024 | 08:55 AM
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Tell your dealer you want him to provide you at no charge an inspection report of your brake pad and rotor measurements.
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Old Aug 21, 2024 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GLE350questions
My dealer is saying repeatedly that all GLE 350 owners should expect to replace rotors and pad every 20k miles. I'm super frustrated b/c I don't see any MB documentation that supports this. I contacted MB USA and they punted, refusing to say whether or not that's a reasonable expectation, and telling me to switch dealers if I didn't like their assertion. Has anyone else been told this and/or experienced it? Seems like a huge regular cost above and beyond what has been presented and what should be expected.
1. whenever the dealer’s lips are moving, you know lies are being pronounced. Ignore the dealer.

2. buy a cheap brake pad thickness gage, learn how to use it.

3. measure your pads with your new gage and call to schedule an appointment for new pads when the gage reads the first red step.

I got >40k miles on fronts and quite a bit more than that on rears on a W166. Probably going to get 30k or so on the Cayenne fronts but I drive it “differently” compared to the W166…



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Old Aug 21, 2024 | 08:12 PM
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I’m at 41k miles and can get to 50k easy. Just normal not hard pedal driving. 20k miles seems way too early unless youre hard on that brake pedal
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Old Aug 21, 2024 | 08:22 PM
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I just changed mine at 51K on my GLE 350. All depends on you driving style. I try to avoid hard braking on a 6600 lbs. vehicle. I would also ask the service manager to assign you to a different service adviser.


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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 09:55 AM
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if this dealer is located in NYC Metro, or Chicago where stop and go traffic is common, then 20k miles might be accurate.
However the OP didn't say where they are located at, so we don't know.

Not enough information provided to make an informed comment
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 11:30 AM
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Would you replace rotors/pads at the MB dealer or at an indy shop with great google and yelp ratings?
Any material difference in your all experience with quality of work and/or price?
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 11:46 AM
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Would you replace rotors/pads at the MB dealer or at an indy shop with great google and yelp ratings?
Any material difference in your all experience with quality of work and/or price?
Any shop can replace them. No special parts from MB are needed. Just more $$$$ for greedy dealers. I actually changed all my brakes myself over the years.
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Thanks, I suspected that, and could also conceive of doing the work myself.
In addition, what else is normally done after rotors/pads.
Brake fluid flush ?
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 12:43 PM
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Mercedes specifies a brake fluid flush and replace every two years or 20,000 miles. 20,000 miles on a set of brake pads sounds excessive (unless you drive like my sister. The only time her foot isn't planted on the accelerator is when she is hitting the brakes)
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Benzina
Thanks, I suspected that, and could also conceive of doing the work myself.
In addition, what else is normally done after rotors/pads.
Brake fluid flush ?
You can do the brake flush but not because it needs it. Just another dealer expense to make a living. Brake fluid can and should last for several years
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Originally Posted by Denis Osullivan
You can do the brake flush but not because it needs it. Just another dealer expense to make a living. Brake fluid can and should last for several years
Only in an unopened brake fluid container.
Once it's in the car, it absorbs moisture continuously.
Which then corrodes a brake system.
The system is open to the atmosphere.

2 years is a good maintenance schedule. 3 years is pushing it.

The Dealer would make more money by NOT doing this maintenance. And it would cost the owner a LOT more.
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I can cook brakes every 2-3 years so 30-40k. If you want to extend this, ceramic pads and fresh rotors although there are tradeoffs in cold torque
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Originally Posted by mikapen
Only in an unopened brake fluid container.
Once it's in the car, it absorbs moisture continuously.
Which then corrodes a brake system.
The system is open to the atmosphere.

2 years is a good maintenance schedule. 3 years is pushing it.

The Dealer would make more money by NOT doing this maintenance. And it would cost the owner a LOT more.
I've heard this also, but have you seen/heard of any examples where this (corrosion due to old fluid) caused a failure? The boiling point is of course reduced which can be an issue for track days or other repeated heavy braking situations.
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I've heard this also, but have you seen/heard of any examples where this (corrosion due to old fluid) caused a failure? The boiling point is of course reduced which can be an issue for track days or other repeated heavy braking situations.
Yes. Several cars.

First indication is a line of corrosion forms right at the edge of the rubber piston seal, causing pitting. Which ruins the seal and requires refurbishment at the minimum.
I've honed plenty of wheel cylinders and replaced seals, but it's really only a temporary solution and not something I'd want to have on a car that I drive daily.

5 years and you're done is my experience. 3 years and you're on your way.

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Every time you press the brake pedal, a tiny portion of fluid is exposed to the air with its moisture content - at every Piston in every caliper, and at both master cylinder Pistons.
(With drum brakes, poorly adjusted brakes require more piston travel and therefore more moisture absorption. Drum brakes are inherently worse )
So a car that's hardly used will have less air/moisture getting absorbed into the fluid.
That doesn't eliminate exposure completely, because the entire system is vented, to allow for piston travel and any decrease in fluid volume.

Also, the humidity of your local environment affects moisture absorption.

A "cars and coffee" Car in Colorado might see 8 years before damage is seen, but a daily driver in Erie Pennsylvania might see the effects in 3 years.

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Yes. Several cars.

First indication is a line of corrosion forms right at the edge of the rubber piston seal, causing pitting. Which ruins the seal and requires refurbishment at the minimum.
I've honed plenty of wheel cylinders and replaced seals, but it's really only a temporary solution and not something I'd want to have on a car that I drive daily.

5 years and you're done is my experience. 3 years and you're on your way.
Mostly due to aluminum calipers. Back when they were cast iron it wasn't commonly done.
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Mostly due to aluminum calipers. Back when they were cast iron it wasn't commonly done.
My experience is with cast iron wheel cylinders.
It's a common malady.

Do 167 calipers have bare aluminum piston bores?

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