CarPlay for GLEs produced before January 8th, 2016?
Last edited by GLE43_Sube; Jan 16, 2019 at 04:05 PM.
BTW, this has to be the most convoluted update I've ever seen. Too many different scenarios and nobody knows exactly what the process is to get it done on the pre Jan 2016 GLE's.
Ours is 10/2015 GLE (official model year 2016) and our dealer said there is no such thing as Mercedes dealer updating software or anything to get the Car Play functionality into the car ever, period. Only GLE models where the 'Smartphone Integration Package' was initially installed at the time of original build of car can get Apple CarPlay and no other car, period. This is vastly different from my understanding of how this goes reading the threads here. I got the impression that dealers could get it installed in retrofit manner on certain vehicles WITHOUT smartphone integration package, by using software upgrade and OBD activators and such. There are websites that sell "Genuine Retrofit Smartphone Integration P (C 14U 246-820-38-00)" from Mercedes that apparently installs the 'Smartphone Integration Package' into the car and then you can activate the CarPlay functionality thru a separate OBD CarPlay activation module.
I just wanted this done by the dealer so as not to void warranty and not to mess anything up but the dealer says they've never head of such things and it's impossible period. I printed the PDF in this thread that describes retrofit smartphone integration package for vehicles with NTG5*1 COMAND, and the dealer looked at it and said that is only for vehicles that were purchased and equipped with Smartphone Integration Package at the initial build of car. This doesn't make any sense to me. I thought 'retrofit' meant getting it installed in cars that didn't originally have it at the initial build.
However for use of this adapter - your vehicle must fall into the correct build dates AND your vehicle must have COMAND 5.1. Both build date and 5.1 can be confirmed by accessing the "VMI" factory build sheet which can be done by Service or Parts.
The installation of the adapter is basic - not rocket science - and can be accomplished in under 1 shop hour real time.
It is equipped with Code 531, Command APS NTG5/NTG5.5 with Garmin Map-Pilot currently Installed: 2015/2016 (V4.0) N.America.
I have talked to one of the local MB dealership. They won't update the firmware and or the Map-Pilot (I thought I had (1) free left of the 3 years) because MB said there nothing wrong with it. I'm waiting for my friend that work at another MB local dealership as a Master Tech. The response might be slow due to the Xmas Holiday and the upcoming New Year.
For my vehicle I'm leaning towards the firmware and or Map-pilot for Apple Carplay and or Android. Once I get an update I let you all know.
Last edited by amusa; Dec 27, 2019 at 08:55 AM.
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It is equipped with Code 531, Command APS NTG5/NTG5.5 with Garmin Map-Pilot currently Installed: 2015/2016 (V4.0) N.America.
I have talked to one of the local MB dealership. They won't update the firmware and or the Map-Pilot (I thought I had (1) free left of the 3 years) because MB said there nothing wrong with it. I'm waiting for my friend that work at another MB local dealership as a Master Tech. The response might be slow due to the Xmas Holiday and the upcoming New Year.
For my vehicle I'm leaning towards the firmware and or Map-pilot for Apple Carplay and or Android. Once I get an update I let you all know.
I phoned our local dealer here in Calgary with the VIN number and their parts department advised that there is a part available and that they can retrofit carplay! Will report back as to how this goes.....
I phoned our local dealer here in Calgary with the VIN number and their parts department advised that there is a part available and that they can retrofit carplay! Will report back as to how this goes.....
Please report back asap.
I phoned our local dealer here in Calgary with the VIN number and their parts department advised that there is a part available and that they can retrofit carplay! Will report back as to how this goes.....
Dealer states that the upgrade is only available until 30. November 2015!
What do I do if the car is built on 3. December 2015 and already has the USB integration kit, dealer will not upload the codes as the VIN does not support it according to the product sheet:
Smartphone Integration package (Code 14U)
Available as retrofit for vehicles with NTG5*1 COMAND Online up until 30.11.2015
Any solutions or advice? Seems MB does not offer support for December 2015 build GLE400 Matic?
I phoned our local dealer here in Calgary with the VIN number and their parts department advised that there is a part available and that they can retrofit carplay! Will report back as to how this goes.....
See bill below - the cost was very reasonable.
What is 7205 CP for $158.00?

New Genuine Mercedes-Benz Retrofit Smart Phone Integration Kit OE 2468203800
- Condition: New
- Brand: Mercedes-Benz
- Warranty: Lifetime
- Manufacturer Part Number: 246-820-38-00
- Fitment Type: Direct Replacement
- Other Part Number: 2468203800
Read all notes and compare with your vehicle information.
If you are unsure please contact us with your vehicle info or your VIN and part needed and we will gladly investigate for you.
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Dealer states that the upgrade is only available until 30. November 2015!
What do I do if the car is built on 3. December 2015 and already has the USB integration kit, dealer will not upload the codes as the VIN does not support it according to the product sheet:
Smartphone Integration package (Code 14U)
Available as retrofit for vehicles with NTG5*1 COMAND Online up until 30.11.2015
Any solutions or advice? Seems MB does not offer support for December 2015 build GLE400 Matic?
Last edited by MaverikDS; Jul 7, 2020 at 03:15 PM.
I think this will continue to be true in the future because the pre-MBUX in 2016s is pretty good, and MBUX which came later is really good - whereas Apple CarPlay is basically garbage. It's totally half-baked, Apple did a terrible job with it.
I think this will continue to be true in the future because the pre-MBUX in 2016s is pretty good, and MBUX which came later is really good - whereas Apple CarPlay is basically garbage. It's totally half-baked, Apple did a terrible job with it.
For short drives I don't use it at all. I can make calls and listen to anything I might want with no problems using bluetooth, but for the long trips, I prefer it. I also just wanted the option available because in my mind I knew it "should" be there. So the fact that I thought the car should be able to do something but it was just greyed out bothered me. Same reason I keep XM active on an older Acura I have. I can't stand that it has an XM tab that will display but give you no options without the service. That last part is 100% not a good reason to do/keep something but is my own form of OCD and having the options keeps me satisfied.
From my understanding Apple did a bad job with development but critically I think their licensing decisions were poor. I've been told that BMW was the one to reach a deal with Apple and part of that deal prohibited certain others (MB...)from being allowed to have it be wireless for 5 years (the time frame might be a little different) but that is also why MB doesn't have it until this upcoming MY. Either way it's certainly not necessary and doesn't change the dynamic of the car one way or another. It's more of a personal preference for if you want it via retrofit and find that it will be useful for you. Once I feel comfortable with commercial air travel again, I likely will not use it as I don't think it's good or helpful for normal drives. All in for a couple hundred bucks I'm happy and just wanted to let others with the build date of December 2015 know that it is possible to get it working.
Last edited by MaverikDS; Oct 12, 2020 at 02:27 PM.
I have a Gle from 2015 August with no label of a smartphone on the USB outlet in the armrest.
If I ordered the Smart Phone Integration Kit OE 2468203800 described in the pdf in this thread. Do think that Carpaly would work if I get a software update on my command?
Note: I'm from EU
Best regards
Frank
I have a Gle from 2015 August with no label of a smartphone on the USB outlet in the armrest.
If I ordered the Smart Phone Integration Kit OE 2468203800 described in the pdf in this thread. Do think that Carpaly would work if I get a software update on my command?
Note: I'm from EU
Best regards
Frank
I'm far from an expert but your car falls within the date range in the pdf that is provided earlier in this thread. It is potentially the start date so I would suggest calling your dealer. If you have the NTG 5.1 Command I don't know why it wouldn't work. I assume that you need the kit but would suggest asking the dealer for a full quote first. They might want to run the VIN and check with MB to see if they will send the update. I bought the kit online for a discounted price vs my local dealers. The dealer that actually did the work didn't seem thrilled with me having it and the price they provided for it was very low in difference to online and it would have made the process a bit smoother I think. But the dealer took 2 days to see if they could and then to actually install the update.
In short - my response would be yes based off the pdf and if one dealer says no, try another.
-Dave
I'm far from an expert but your car falls within the date range in the pdf that is provided earlier in this thread. It is potentially the start date so I would suggest calling your dealer. If you have the NTG 5.1 Command I don't know why it wouldn't work. I assume that you need the kit but would suggest asking the dealer for a full quote first. They might want to run the VIN and check with MB to see if they will send the update. I bought the kit online for a discounted price vs my local dealers. The dealer that actually did the work didn't seem thrilled with me having it and the price they provided for it was very low in difference to online and it would have made the process a bit smoother I think. But the dealer took 2 days to see if they could and then to actually install the update.
In short - my response would be yes based off the pdf and if one dealer says no, try another.
-Dave
Check your PM's plz.







